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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2026 11:48 am 
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I just feel like we need another tall target. There were times that Ison was playing as a defacto tall, and he's not quite big enough.
I like the Pitto-McKay ruck combo, so I don't think we need another ruck in the side, but that leaves us with Lewis Young or Hudson O'Keefe as our only options.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2026 12:04 pm 
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Ison needs a spell in the magoos. Watched the replay and towards end of 1st , florent kicks inside 50 to a pack where Ison is at the back waiting. The ball goes over the back of the pack and even though Ison is in a great position to take it on the chest, he either took his eye off the ball or completely misjudged it and missed it completely. Another play when Cerra kicks to Ison who is 1 on 1 with an eagles opponent. Ison is easily outpositioned by his opponent and the Eagles clear it . The sugar hit from his 1st game has well and truly worn off


Probably better to manage him for a week at all levels, it's a long season for a first year player when he's played so many senior games.

Except if your surname Dean....


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2026 12:10 pm 
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I'd bring in Williams or Moir for Ison this week. Ollie is also demanding a promotion for the VFL but based on form, there's no one in the seniors who you could omit at this stage. It's a great problem to have.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2026 12:22 pm 
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Yes, no doubt Lynch will be back and will kick 5 and then discover another injury post-game and be out for the rest of the season...

I am worried about this match. A big test for Fraser is keeping the boys minds and appetites focused. We were mostly good against the Eagles although I was starting to hyperventilate when they kicked their way back within 4 goals. But we settled and refocused.

I would bring in Williams for Ison. And that's it.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2026 1:36 pm 
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bluechampion wrote:
I just feel like we need another tall target. There were times that Ison was playing as a defacto tall, and he's not quite big enough.
I like the Pitto-McKay ruck combo, so I don't think we need another ruck in the side, but that leaves us with Lewis Young or Hudson O'Keefe as our only options.


Nooooo ...please no. Fraser's winning move has been to remove the extra talls. Williams for Ison. Williams uses his smarts to not get outmarked more than 4 times. That should be enough to have his inclusion more beneficial than including a tall. All about pressure for longer. We are achieving that now by having more players rotate and pushing up through the midfield. That and playing a more compact game with minimal long kicking. That compact game also helping down scores against.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2026 2:52 pm 
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bluechampion wrote:
I just feel like we need another tall target. There were times that Ison was playing as a defacto tall, and he's not quite big enough.
I like the Pitto-McKay ruck combo, so I don't think we need another ruck in the side, but that leaves us with Lewis Young or Hudson O'Keefe as our only options.


Game vs WCE was a great win and arguably our best for the year, at least on the scoreboard, but we didn't have it all our way against a bottom team.

I saw the same as you this week in the forward line. We missed a lot of opportunities playing only one KPF, and moreso when he's lost from the forwardline playing in the ruck, as we have seen in all our wins, and losses.

Kemp was beaten in the air by a player only 2cm taller. He and Gov got smothered by Bazzo and Young. I thought they both competed well to bring ball to ground and on the floor.
Kemp 193 and Gov 191 can only mark on the lead when playing KPF. They are both either 3rd tall or HF types imo. Adding Ison 192 and out "talls" were too short in the forward line. I get 3 marking types is better than no 2nd KPF, but....its a "shortfall" (pardon the pun)

Young is our best marking option imo. He can also ruck in the forwardline when Harry is giving Pitto a rest. But Harry, Young, Gov, Kemp and Ison, I feel is two too many talls.

Good thing we had 10 goal kickers and our smalls kicking 5.2, HHF's kicked 4.1 and mids adding 3.4 to Harry's 3.1 as the genuine KPF.

I don't think its a big deal this week, but it will be against teams who are challenging us for the Wildcard. Gov kicked his first goal for a month, Kempy missed out after only 1.5 last week.

The only thing is worth having a look at this week is our 209cm Riley vs Nankervis 199 and Balta 194 at least for the 20 odd CB's where Pitto isn't giving us an advantage. This is an obvious area we need to fix up next year, but nice to in lead up to Finals, let alone Finals.

IMO, Ison looks like he needed a rest for the last 3 games. His one wood isn't firing and it looks like that is due to fatigue. I prefer an extra small-medium forward like Williams in.

Lynch will play. The Defenders and the team are playing good team defence and can see no change in Defense. I have no doubt Derksen is far too slow for Lynch and would like Dean to take on Lynch (my reference would be Lewis Young, but this group of tall defenders have done well in last 3 games together, and seem to be building chemistry).

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2026 2:57 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
I'd bring in Williams or Moir for Ison this week. Ollie is also demanding a promotion for the VFL but based on form, there's no one in the seniors who you could omit at this stage. It's a great problem to have.


Ollie's last 2 senior games and his two games in the VFL since returning from injury have been impressive. Worthy of a spot in the AFL team. Only player I would replace him for is Cottrell, or Ison, if Williams wasn't available for the forward role. How can we leave out the harmonica man? The boys love playing with him.

Tough decision to move Cottrell. Tough decision to leave out Ollie. Love that sort of problem, till the decision to not make the change is the problem.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2026 3:05 pm 
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Club_29 wrote:
bluechampion wrote:
I just feel like we need another tall target. There were times that Ison was playing as a defacto tall, and he's not quite big enough.
I like the Pitto-McKay ruck combo, so I don't think we need another ruck in the side, but that leaves us with Lewis Young or Hudson O'Keefe as our only options.


Nooooo ...please no. Fraser's winning move has been to remove the extra talls. Williams for Ison. Williams uses his smarts to not get outmarked more than 4 times. That should be enough to have his inclusion more beneficial than including a tall. All about pressure for longer. We are achieving that now by having more players rotate and pushing up through the midfield. That and playing a more compact game with minimal long kicking. That compact game also helping down scores against.


If Williams is in we need a nearest the pin thread for which minute he first goes down appearing to be shot.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2026 3:08 pm 
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GWS wrote:
Club_29 wrote:
bluechampion wrote:
I just feel like we need another tall target. There were times that Ison was playing as a defacto tall, and he's not quite big enough.
I like the Pitto-McKay ruck combo, so I don't think we need another ruck in the side, but that leaves us with Lewis Young or Hudson O'Keefe as our only options.


Nooooo ...please no. Fraser's winning move has been to remove the extra talls. Williams for Ison. Williams uses his smarts to not get outmarked more than 4 times. That should be enough to have his inclusion more beneficial than including a tall. All about pressure for longer. We are achieving that now by having more players rotate and pushing up through the midfield. That and playing a more compact game with minimal long kicking. That compact game also helping down scores against.


If Williams is in we need a nearest the pin thread for which minute he first goes down appearing to be shot.


More interested in the miraculous recovery myself .

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2026 3:10 pm 
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GWS wrote:
Club_29 wrote:
bluechampion wrote:
I just feel like we need another tall target. There were times that Ison was playing as a defacto tall, and he's not quite big enough.
I like the Pitto-McKay ruck combo, so I don't think we need another ruck in the side, but that leaves us with Lewis Young or Hudson O'Keefe as our only options.


Nooooo ...please no. Fraser's winning move has been to remove the extra talls. Williams for Ison. Williams uses his smarts to not get outmarked more than 4 times. That should be enough to have his inclusion more beneficial than including a tall. All about pressure for longer. We are achieving that now by having more players rotate and pushing up through the midfield. That and playing a more compact game with minimal long kicking. That compact game also helping down scores against.


If Williams is in we need a nearest the pin thread for which minute he first goes down appearing to be shot.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2026 3:21 pm 
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We really need to stretch out some percentage here.

I picked Carlton to win premiership at start of year ... now I am not looking so stupid.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2026 3:37 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
GWS wrote:
Club_29 wrote:
bluechampion wrote:
I just feel like we need another tall target. There were times that Ison was playing as a defacto tall, and he's not quite big enough.
I like the Pitto-McKay ruck combo, so I don't think we need another ruck in the side, but that leaves us with Lewis Young or Hudson O'Keefe as our only options.


Nooooo ...please no. Fraser's winning move has been to remove the extra talls. Williams for Ison. Williams uses his smarts to not get outmarked more than 4 times. That should be enough to have his inclusion more beneficial than including a tall. All about pressure for longer. We are achieving that now by having more players rotate and pushing up through the midfield. That and playing a more compact game with minimal long kicking. That compact game also helping down scores against.


If Williams is in we need a nearest the pin thread for which minute he first goes down appearing to be shot.


More interested in the miraculous recovery myself .


Yeah - it's the 'well, that's going to be six weeks' to coming back on 40 minutes later and snapping a goal. Bloke has got either the greatest pain threshold (always coming back on when injured and playing through it) or the lowest paid threshold (plays possum at the slightest owie and goes down the rooms for a quarter and half)

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2026 4:02 pm 
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BigBlueWave wrote:
We really need to stretch out some percentage here.

I picked Carlton to win premiership at start of year ... now I am not looking so stupid.


4 points first.
That 53 point win gained us 4.5%. Currently 95.6%. 6% behind GCS, 8% behind Pies and 4% ahead of roos.
50 point win gives us another 5%.
Nth play PA in Adel. GCS playing Pies at Sunland. We square the edger and may even pass GCS and North, or, Pies and North.
Season starts from there.

Looks like we are creating a real hunger for spots with Riley, Hollands, Lord, Moir, Saady champing at the bit to play Finals.

Weitering to return.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2026 4:32 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
BigBlueWave wrote:
We really need to stretch out some percentage here.

I picked Carlton to win premiership at start of year ... now I am not looking so stupid.


4 points first.
That 53 point win gained us 4.5%. Currently 95.6%. 6% behind GCS, 8% behind Pies and 4% ahead of roos.
50 point win gives us another 5%.
Nth play PA in Adel. GCS playing Pies at Sunland. We square the edger and may even pass GCS and North, or, Pies and North.
Season starts from there.

Looks like we are creating a real hunger for spots with Riley, Hollands, Lord, Moir, Saady champing at the bit to play Finals.

Weitering to return.


Ever since Madhouse was sacked, its like the weight of the world was lifted, but yes, you're not looking silly now.


:wink:

Still worried we will lose Walker.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2026 4:43 pm 
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BigBlueWave wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
BigBlueWave wrote:
We really need to stretch out some percentage here.

I picked Carlton to win premiership at start of year ... now I am not looking so stupid.


4 points first.
That 53 point win gained us 4.5%. Currently 95.6%. 6% behind GCS, 8% behind Pies and 4% ahead of roos.
50 point win gives us another 5%.
Nth play PA in Adel. GCS playing Pies at Sunland. We square the edger and may even pass GCS and North, or, Pies and North.
Season starts from there.

Looks like we are creating a real hunger for spots with Riley, Hollands, Lord, Moir, Saady champing at the bit to play Finals.

Weitering to return.


Ever since Madhouse was sacked, its like the weight of the world was lifted, but yes, you're not looking silly now.


:wink:

Still worried we will lose Walker.


Don't be worried. What will be will be.
More than the obvious way to skin this cat.

oh yeah, and who do you think will call his name if it looks like (on face value) we dont have the points?
and you think they will sleep straight at night....reading tomorrow's headlines...when will Carlton make the move for Walker? etc etc

I'm sure there will Draft night contingencies for anything.
Walker's name will be a very early call.
should be 1, 2 or 3....and maybe 4, 5 or 6. See Nick Daicos.

I was right into tanking, but this drug called winning is too good a feeling for club and fans...and a Destination club :wink:

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bluechampion wrote:
I just feel like we need another tall target. There were times that Ison was playing as a defacto tall, and he's not quite big enough.
I like the Pitto-McKay ruck combo, so I don't think we need another ruck in the side, but that leaves us with Lewis Young or Hudson O'Keefe as our only options.



Definitely don't need Lewis Young thats for sure.


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AGRO wrote:
bluechampion wrote:
I just feel like we need another tall target. There were times that Ison was playing as a defacto tall, and he's not quite big enough.
I like the Pitto-McKay ruck combo, so I don't think we need another ruck in the side, but that leaves us with Lewis Young or Hudson O'Keefe as our only options.



Definitely don't need Lewis Young thats for sure.


What a way to celebrate my 25,000th post :roll: :lol:
Wow, congrats on 25,000 :clap: :clap: :clap:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2026 5:35 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
bluechampion wrote:
I just feel like we need another tall target. There were times that Ison was playing as a defacto tall, and he's not quite big enough.
I like the Pitto-McKay ruck combo, so I don't think we need another ruck in the side, but that leaves us with Lewis Young or Hudson O'Keefe as our only options.


Game vs WCE was a great win and arguably our best for the year, at least on the scoreboard, but we didn't have it all our way against a bottom team.

I saw the same as you this week in the forward line. We missed a lot of opportunities playing only one KPF, and moreso when he's lost from the forwardline playing in the ruck, as we have seen in all our wins, and losses.

Kemp was beaten in the air by a player only 2cm taller. He and Gov got smothered by Bazzo and Young. I thought they both competed well to bring ball to ground and on the floor.
Kemp 193 and Gov 191 can only mark on the lead when playing KPF. They are both either 3rd tall or HF types imo. Adding Ison 192 and out "talls" were too short in the forward line. I get 3 marking types is better than no 2nd KPF, but....its a "shortfall" (pardon the pun)

Young is our best marking option imo. He can also ruck in the forwardline when Harry is giving Pitto a rest. But Harry, Young, Gov, Kemp and Ison, I feel is two too many talls.

Good thing we had 10 goal kickers and our smalls kicking 5.2, HHF's kicked 4.1 and mids adding 3.4 to Harry's 3.1 as the genuine KPF.

I don't think its a big deal this week, but it will be against teams who are challenging us for the Wildcard. Gov kicked his first goal for a month, Kempy missed out after only 1.5 last week.



We scored our highest score for the season and took a massive amount of marks inside 50. We can wear being outmarked occasionally. Fraser has to hold his nerve. We did do a few longer kicks into the forward line on Saturday. Stood out like dogs balls and so did the correction. The new Blues.
Keep running it and keeping it compact with handpasses and shortpasses on angles. Get it to 60-70 and go in to our new dynamic forward set up.
Keep it mobile and lightly kick it to space. Keep the extra runners. Keep the rotations. Keep the energy and keep the excitement and joy for the players.


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GMCbris wrote:
AGRO wrote:
bluechampion wrote:
I just feel like we need another tall target. There were times that Ison was playing as a defacto tall, and he's not quite big enough.
I like the Pitto-McKay ruck combo, so I don't think we need another ruck in the side, but that leaves us with Lewis Young or Hudson O'Keefe as our only options.



Definitely don't need Lewis Young thats for sure.


What a way to celebrate my 25,000th post :roll: :lol:
Wow, congrats on 25,000 :clap: :clap: :clap:



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