hmmm..that gives me an idea.
Our cat always turns her back on us whilst still sitting in the same room,if she feels we have slighted her in some way.
Should we turn up for training,but sit facing the other way en masse for a few minutes to make a point?...would anyone notice do you think?
The Carlton Football Club represents so much to so many. Everyone of those employees, helpers & volunteers deserves better. They deserve an apology from the leadership group.
(quote from caz)
yes,I agree with you Caz...and maybe an apology...as soon as possible,is what is required...too many upset people right now.
and then..an outline of exactly what measures will be taken to ensure a future for our precious club that we can all be proud of.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

My view is, just like an angry shareholders meeting, we should have 'shares' ie memberships etc, and we should exercise our right to voice our concerns at the activities of the board.

Its cliched, but we are paying these guys.

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Everything before the word "but" is horseshit - J Snow

According to the BF dude, Mars was the sponsor we LOST.

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We are on our way back...

Unsurprising. We currently come across as the Canterbury Bulldogs of the AFL. If I contolled a brand, there's no way I'd want it associated with the CFC right now.

Other AFL clubs may have had problems, but they've been able to be put down to the stupid actions of individual players, so the club doesn't become so tarnished. But this effort from the club is almost suicidal. You really couldn't have scripted a more effective way to disenfranchise potential sponsors and members.

Couldn't agree more. So disheartened right now it's not funny.

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We are on our way back...

It is reported that St Kilda will be having a press conference at 4pm today re: Lovett and the allegations

http://www.theage.com.au/national/st-ki ... utostart=1

I think our club should have been more visual and has a press conference to outline and show some concern over what has happened in our own backyard.

That is only my opinion

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Supporting the Blues No Matter What

One thing lost in all this.

The Age claims Carlton knew on Sunday about Eddie Betts. So what do we do? We release a media statement on Monday about Walker and Houlihan but conveniently 'overlook' Betts. No doubt we were hoping we could find a way to sweep that under the carpet.

We're morons.

You're actually comparing a string of misdemeanours to a sexual assault case?

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

As I alluded to in my post last night/early this morning, the club should of done SOMETHING today.

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We are on our way back...

What an absolute disaster.

However we will be defined by how the club/players react to this. It could be an opportunity or it could be the end of the line for many.

Remember last preseason when Setanta booted Cloke up the clacker. Who would have thought Setanta would still be on the list at the end of the year? The point is he reacted the right way and put his head down, bum up. It resulted in his best year.

Lets hope the rest of the list can do the same.

It is clear that CFC continues to have a major cultural problem and this comes as no surprise to me.

It has been evident to all and sundry for years and as such it was never going to be fixed in a day. However until it is completely expunged from the psyche of players and administrators, including the Board, it will continue to hold back CFC from becoming a modern professional football club capable of winning premierships..

Removing Fev was the mere the start of this process; it was never the be all and end all to resolving CFC's cultural problems. Fev engendered a cavalier, beer swilling ethic, a contempt for authority and an indifference to training which he shared with a few others in different degrees. These people have not learnt from the Fev example and have not corrected their wayward ways.

All is not lost though as it is clear though that we have sorted one of 3 of these problems - the commitment to training. Reports from our training watchers have been extremely promising with a new energy and commitment emerging. A tick to the players and coaches for this achievement -it represents progress for CFC.

But the beer drinking mentality and the contempt for the authority of the CFC and CFC supporters is still evident and needs to be sorted. And CFC must now resolve these problems once and for all. This requires frank and fearless discussion at Board level followed by incisive and swift action so that the cancers are removed for once and for all.

Swannie needs to take the lead and demand that the Board support him. If Sticks is part of the problem, then remove him. If it is certain players then remove them. 4 January is fine from my point of view to do this but it needs to be unequivocal.

At the end of the day all Board members, administrators, coaches and players are representatives and ambassadors of CFC and are judged by members accordingly. At the moment there is a stench in the air and members are rightfully angry.

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I need some new conspiracy theories; all my others have come true.

I reckon we hold a protest rally at princess park on Jan 4 when the players get back from their break (the day sticks gives his big 'dressing down'). The club officals and player need to know how angry and disapointed the supporters are.

After the Fev brownlow night incident you would have thought the club would have put a stop to any event that it thought may have lead to usavoury incidents.

40 footy players on a boat cruise with grog would ring alarm bells to a drovers dog but not Swann and Sticks.

The sensible thing after the Fev incident would have been for the club to say to the players " sorry, but in view of recent events we think it is best you have a quiet xmas beak up ... devonshire tea in the past players room".

We should have pre empted the possibility of a problem ... 40 footy players on a boat cruise with grog ... not a hard one to work out in terms of what could go wrong ... surely we are paying Swann the big bucks to work these sort of things out.

So what happens next xmas ???

I'm not expecting our players to be choirboys but by gee we seem to have assembled a very immature group.

One of my major concerns is how the club is being reactive to events, such as the Betts incident. In this day and age, it's essential to get on the front foot and release information under your own terms. It's about both damage control and demonstrating control over a situation.

When the Herald Sun starts running your agenda, you're in serious trouble.

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"The old believe everything, the middle-aged suspect everything, and the young know everything." Oscar Wilde

Seriously, 25 pages on this topic. Wow, that blew me away.

Maybe the real problem here is that it's the off season and there is nothing much to talk about footy wise. Now bang, we have a story.

I'm really sick of hearing all this sh#t on the radio re culture, who's to blame and members saying they wont renew memberships because of the players behaviors.

We have become so politically correct these days, that we can all criticize other people's behaviors in the blind belief that we are so perfect ourselves.

My thanks go out to Andrew Lovett for taking some heat of us. Now there's one bad seed.

Bugger Kernahan getting in their ears. Time for a bit of the old Ron Barrassi "SIT DOWN, SHUT-UP, AND PAY ATTENTION" treatment. They'll be shitting bricks in no time and think twice about stepping out of line.

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Premierships: 1869, 1871, 1873, 1874, 1875, 1877, 1887, 1906, 1907, 1908, 1914, 1915, 1938, 1945, 1947, 1968, 1970, 1972, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1987, 1995.

"GIBBS."

Over it.
Over all of it.

It'd be great if i could fall asleep and wake up 5 mins before our first game


Merry Christmas Carlton Football Club...

+1
I'm confident this administration and Football Department will work hard and get things right. They would be gutted as much as anyone.
Sometimes it takes things like this to change an embedded culture. It's not a person (Fevola) as much as a culture. Fevola's closest mates at the Club are still there and one of them apparently organised the trip. Whoever brought the stuff used to tie the rookies down needs a real boot up the clacker. It’s an ugly image that gives the media plenty to work with. If any of the assistant coaches were there you’d be disappointed if they weren’t making every effort to cut out those sort of things.
Much as I support Sticks and Ratts I was disappointed in the way Setanta was hung out to dry for the Cloke incident. He's a non-drinker and from all accounts prepared to biff his bro Aisake for drinking too much. Seems like he’s one of few showing real leadership. The other protagonist, Cloke, later missed a training session with Eddie and Garlo.
The late great Sir Richard may not have been able to help us at all with this issue. He was influential in Fevola’s services being retained at the Club for so long.
I've been a sole invited older guest on quite a few of this type of function over the years and taken it on myself to dampen things down when they're getting out of hand. I found if you keep asking people not to do something you eventually wear them down and they've still had a bit of fun testing you.

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Bawditawaba

Good for him.
And so he should!!

Also .... I think might have said, "Port Melb incident is St. Kilda's problem"

ie. It's not our problem !!

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Losing an illusion makes you wiser than finding a truth. ~Ludwig Börne

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Makes you smile dont you reckon?

unlike other things at the moment.