Talking Carlton Index Lochie O'Brien Kerryn Harrington Lochie O'Brien Kerryn Harrington CFC Home CFC Membership CFC Shop CFC Fixture Blueseum
It is currently Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:28 am

All times are UTC + 10 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 118 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:04 am 
Offline
Stephen Kernahan

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am
Posts: 18035
Great courage by Carlos and Fev had a responsibility to protect him. It's not like there was a pack of 15 players. Carlos could have backed into the mark easily if Fevola was willing to play the team role for a change.
Just because someone is labelled the "full forward" doesn't give them some God given right to own the forward line and take team mates out.
Fev is the first one to expect others to create space for him and block to enable him to take a grab.
Unfortunately for Fev, he has responsibilities too. The biggest problem is Fev was never big on taking responsibility.

We're too quick to criticise players for ducking their heads or pulling out of contests. I'm not his biggest fan but Carlos did something that requires a fair bit of ticker and he should be commended for it.

_________________
Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:37 am 
Offline
Stephen Silvagni

Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:03 am
Posts: 25323
Location: Bondi Beach
Sydney Blue wrote:
verbs wrote:
It was O'hAilpin's ball? Not the way I remember it.



100 % it was his ball and Fev should have protected the contest not barge straight into it

Even recall the commentators at the time bagging Fev over it .

I am fully aware of Setanta's lack of awareness but in this instance Fev was fully in the wrong


I agree with Sydney, and for the record, Sydney is not a bias Setanta fan, and for Sydney to back Setanta...it must have been obvious what he saw.

IMO Setanta was in the zone to take the mark. He didn't run back with the flight, he took a few steps to sit under it and mark. He would have marked it (in the box seat) till Fev came along with the 2 backmen who were wearing him like a glove, which he didn't have to. Setanta had position and height advantage over Lovett Murray.

Whether Setanta was supposed to be there or not, the fact is that he was. Sometimes its your turn to go despite the team rules. What was Setanta suppose to do? Run out of the forwardline with the ball coming to him...and leave 3 defenders with Fev...with Fev having no one to jump onto? Yeah right. :roll: You see that's the problem with a one man forwardline.

What was the result of the Fev attack on the ball? No one got it and we had an injured player as a result. Fev should have worked out the probability of that result. Careless and negligent imo. Fev could have protected Setanta with a shepherd; he's done that many a time when he wasn't selfish. Setanta was just showing glimpses of consistency with his marking at the time too.

Oh, that's right, it was a one man forwardline. Glad to see the end of that era.

Good decision to trade Fev for many reasons both on and off field. I'd hate to have all this Fev attention on the CFC throughout the preseason and the beginning of the 2010 season. What would be the good of that?

Fev is not our problem anymore. Chapter closed. Well done Swanny.

_________________
Everyone looks good in Navy Blue


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:42 am 
Offline
Stephen Silvagni
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:04 am
Posts: 28377
Location: *Currently banned*
If you get in the way of the full forward, you either take the mark or accept responsibility when you @#$%&! up. It's simple. O'hAilpin wasn't crying about it like clueless supporters have been.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:42 am 
Offline
Rod McGregor

Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:48 pm
Posts: 171
One man forwardline......And who's fault was that ??????? :roll:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:03 am 
Offline
John Nicholls

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:52 am
Posts: 9106
Location: Nth Fitzroy
MadBlue wrote:
One man forwardline......And who's fault was that ??????? :roll:


No need to play the blame game. Many coaches have tried but all have failed to get our forward line to function as a unit with fev in it. He is just that type of player. Someone who commands the ball everytime. Its not his fault. I just dont think we would win a flag with that type of player. So I feel the trade is good.

Wish you all the best Fev !


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:05 am 
Offline
Alex Jesaulenko

Joined: Sat May 14, 2005 2:15 pm
Posts: 21570
Location: North of the border
MadBlue wrote:
One man forwardline......And who's fault was that ??????? :roll:



A man called Denis Pagan

_________________
If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:06 am 
Offline
Stephen Silvagni
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:04 am
Posts: 28377
Location: *Currently banned*
Too right. He was crazy trading McKernan back to North.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:11 am 
Offline
Alex Jesaulenko

Joined: Sat May 14, 2005 2:15 pm
Posts: 21570
Location: North of the border
verbs wrote:
If you get in the way of the full forward, you either take the mark or accept responsibility when you !@#$%& up. It's simple. O'hAilpin wasn't crying about it like clueless supporters have been.



Nah but he was hurting like hell and right when he was starting to show some promise

Whitnal - Fisher - Ohalpin and I believe he took out Wiggins as well - all in the wrong we must clear the space for Bozo to put on his show - Lets See if Johhno Brown clears a path for him -

Fev missed the mark by the way so Its simple if your gunner take out one of your own take the mark it's that !@#$%& simple

_________________
If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:11 am 
Offline
Rod McGregor

Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:48 pm
Posts: 171
And Ratten !!!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:13 am 
Offline
Alex Jesaulenko

Joined: Sat May 14, 2005 2:15 pm
Posts: 21570
Location: North of the border
verbs wrote:
Too right. He was crazy trading McKernan back to North.


You re writing history now are you Verbs - I think you will find Mckernan requested to be traded once Pagan arrived

_________________
If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:15 am 
Offline
Stephen Silvagni
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:04 am
Posts: 28377
Location: *Currently banned*
Ratten is to blame for trading Kennedy for Judd and axing Whitnall.

A forward line of Fevola, McKernan, Kennedy and Whitnall would've been unstoppable.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:16 am 
Offline
Bruce Doull
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:41 pm
Posts: 63509
verbs wrote:
Ratten is to blame for trading Kennedy for Judd and axing Whitnall.

A forward line of Fevola, McKernan, Kennedy and Whitnall would've been unstoppable.


:clap: :clap: :lol: :lol: :lol:

_________________
And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:18 am 
Offline
Alex Jesaulenko

Joined: Sat May 14, 2005 2:15 pm
Posts: 21570
Location: North of the border
verbs wrote:
Ratten is to blame for trading Kennedy for Judd and axing Whitnall.

A forward line of Fevola, McKernan, Kennedy and Whitnall would've been unstoppable.


your starting to talk like Michael Voss now

_________________
If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:01 pm 
Offline
Stephen Kernahan
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:47 am
Posts: 18288
Location: talkingcarlton.com
That's enough now thanks verbs, sydney, Mad, etc etc....


If you have all finished making comment about Swann's letter to the members (remember?....the subject of this thread?) then please move elsewhere.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:56 pm 
Offline
Bruce Doull
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:24 am
Posts: 40291
Location: seaside
Ididn'tgettaletter.........!


kindest regards tommi

_________________
that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:41 am 
Offline
Harry Vallence

Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:53 am
Posts: 1194
Cazzesman wrote:
Further to the last - It also helps if you can limit the opposition scoring.

2009 averages (rounded)

Saints 14.12
Opp 9.8

Cats 15.13
Opp 12.10

Pies 13.13
Opp 11.11

Crows 14.12
Opp 12.10

Doggies 15.12
Opp 12.10

Blues 15.12
Op 13.12

If we spread the goal scoring load around and cut a few goals a week from the opposition then winning is not all about having an 80 a year goal kicker. On Average the Saints kept their opponent to under 10gls. That's the new banch mark to aim at.

Regards Cazzesman


I'm not sure the Saints will be able to replicate their "10 goal benchmark", just as the Hawks were unable to maintain their zone from the previous year.

Every time a new tactic is introduced by a club the other clubs take a little while to figure out how to counter that tactic.

My $ would be on more teams finding a way to increase their scoring against the Aints next year.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:49 pm 
Offline
Stephen Kernahan
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:17 am
Posts: 18659
Location: threeohfivethree
At the end of '79 we parted ways with another 25.

One crap year followed by two flags. :grin:

_________________
“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:02 am 
Offline
Geoff Southby

Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:14 pm
Posts: 5991
Location: Melbourne
GWS wrote:
At the end of '79 we parted ways with another 25.

One crap year followed by two flags. :grin:


A crap year then was finishing 4th. Different times, but we are in good shape.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 118 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

All times are UTC + 10 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 34 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group