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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:44 pm 
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Just to clarify one thing, the threat by Swanny in regards to the one strike and your out does not exist anymore.
This threat was made at the start of the 2008 season and was subsequently removed (through contract negotiations) for his contract extension which commenced this year and ends 2011. So that threat no longer hangs over his head.

So mentioning it is pointless because the club were never made to make the call. Now I realise it is fairly easy for us supporters and media types to flippantly say get rid of him and enough is enough but there are commercial and contractual implications so it is never that black & white

Just keep that in mind and the fact that there may not always be these intangible benefits by simply discarding marquee players of Fev's ilk for cultural gains that are impossible to measure. Sure, get rid of Fev but make sure there is a suitable return at the other end. We need to stay prudent and pragmatic at all times.

I'm not here to argue whether to keep him or not but some of these points apply


It might have been removed... but i hear the AFL's rules and conditions of conduct becoming and bringing the game into disrepute still stand.... ALL players sign this with every contract.... Fev is no exception.. and as we know the club and the AFL can work together on this matter...


Fair enough but it is a pretty flimsy out clause. These contracts are still subject to the laws of the land and threatening the sack or a trade against Fevs wishes is fraught with danger. Sure trade him if it works out but I think other options may not be available regardless of what behaviorial rules are included in the standard terms. Terminating his contract on the back of that incident would have legal ramifications AFAIC (subject to Fev pursuing this recompense)

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:46 pm 
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Ah yes.. except the board has met a few times in the last 3 or so days and have ratified a reccomendation by the CEO...

Apart from that you might be right...

Look.. im a huge Fev supporter.. but really enough is enough and the stakes are too high now.

A few scenarios have come to light over the weekend...

But i hear.. the CEO doesnt want to be the man laughed at because of Fev...

So Fev at Cartlton next year looks very slim... one way or the other....

..... at this moment of time.. considering the board has voted to support Swann unanimously... it doesnt look good for Fev.

I hear ... he HAS been told .,...

But then again... who knows how these things are played out when push comes to shove...

But Hellas ou might know better than Swanny...


So it's not about the good of the club, it's about the CEO's reputation? If this is the case then our problems lie within club management, not Fev. BTW I'll take Fev over Swann any day of the week.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:08 pm 
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If the board had to choose between Swann and Fevola, it's Swann hands down I'd imagine.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:15 pm 
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Ah yes.. except the board has met a few times in the last 3 or so days and have ratified a reccomendation by the CEO...

Apart from that you might be right...

Look.. im a huge Fev supporter.. but really enough is enough and the stakes are too high now.

A few scenarios have come to light over the weekend...

But i hear.. the CEO doesnt want to be the man laughed at because of Fev...

So Fev at Cartlton next year looks very slim... one way or the other....

..... at this moment of time.. considering the board has voted to support Swann unanimously... it doesnt look good for Fev.

I hear ... he HAS been told .,...

But then again... who knows how these things are played out when push comes to shove...

But Hellas ou might know better than Swanny...


So it's not about the good of the club, it's about the CEO's reputation? If this is the case then our problems lie within club management, not Fev. BTW I'll take Fev over Swann any day of the week.


It is about the good of the club....

How is ridiculing the club good for the club?
How is ridiculing your CEO.. and your captain good for the club?
How is ridiculing sponsors .. the game youre representing and the club youre representing good for the club.

Fev is remorseful... but he has been remorseful before.

Ive supported Fev time after time...

But when does Fev realise that enough is enough?

Can the club continue to swallow the poison Fev keeps feeding it?
Fev might have 3 years left.. so at some point the club needs to move on anyway... 3 years earlier .. 3 years later...

Dunno... Fev might have to go to the club and PROVE to it.. he wants to stay...

Right now he is a liability....

.,... this is 2010 ....in footy terms...

Fev is still in 1996 when he was a teenager....

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:17 pm 
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Personally; I'd suspend him for the first 6 games on no pay.

Something drastic has to occur to show him how serious the damage he's caused to the CFC.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:27 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
HELLAS BLUE wrote:
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Ah yes.. except the board has met a few times in the last 3 or so days and have ratified a reccomendation by the CEO...

Apart from that you might be right...

Look.. im a huge Fev supporter.. but really enough is enough and the stakes are too high now.

A few scenarios have come to light over the weekend...

But i hear.. the CEO doesnt want to be the man laughed at because of Fev...

So Fev at Cartlton next year looks very slim... one way or the other....

..... at this moment of time.. considering the board has voted to support Swann unanimously... it doesnt look good for Fev.

I hear ... he HAS been told .,...

But then again... who knows how these things are played out when push comes to shove...

But Hellas ou might know better than Swanny...


So it's not about the good of the club, it's about the CEO's reputation? If this is the case then our problems lie within club management, not Fev. BTW I'll take Fev over Swann any day of the week.


It is about the good of the club....

How is ridiculing the club good for the club?
How is ridiculing your CEO.. and your captain good for the club?
How is ridiculing sponsors .. the game youre representing and the club youre representing good for the club.

Fev is remorseful... but he has been remorseful before.

Ive supported Fev time after time...

But when does Fev realise that enough is enough?

Can the club continue to swallow the poison Fev keeps feeding it?
Fev might have 3 years left.. so at some point the club needs to move on anyway... 3 years earlier .. 3 years later...

Dunno... Fev might have to go to the club and PROVE to it.. he wants to stay...

Right now he is a liability....

.,... this is 2010 ....in footy terms...

Fev is still in 1996 when he was a teenager....


Not according to his goalkicking stats he isn't. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:34 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
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Synbad wrote:
Ah yes.. except the board has met a few times in the last 3 or so days and have ratified a reccomendation by the CEO...

Apart from that you might be right...

Look.. im a huge Fev supporter.. but really enough is enough and the stakes are too high now.

A few scenarios have come to light over the weekend...

But i hear.. the CEO doesnt want to be the man laughed at because of Fev...

So Fev at Cartlton next year looks very slim... one way or the other....

..... at this moment of time.. considering the board has voted to support Swann unanimously... it doesnt look good for Fev.

I hear ... he HAS been told .,...

But then again... who knows how these things are played out when push comes to shove...

But Hellas ou might know better than Swanny...


So it's not about the good of the club, it's about the CEO's reputation? If this is the case then our problems lie within club management, not Fev. BTW I'll take Fev over Swann any day of the week.


It is about the good of the club....

How is ridiculing the club good for the club?
How is ridiculing your CEO.. and your captain good for the club?
How is ridiculing sponsors .. the game youre representing and the club youre representing good for the club.

Fev is remorseful... but he has been remorseful before.

Ive supported Fev time after time...

But when does Fev realise that enough is enough?

Can the club continue to swallow the poison Fev keeps feeding it?
Fev might have 3 years left.. so at some point the club needs to move on anyway... 3 years earlier .. 3 years later...

Dunno... Fev might have to go to the club and PROVE to it.. he wants to stay...

Right now he is a liability....

.,... this is 2010 ....in footy terms...

Fev is still in 1996 when he was a teenager....


You have backed him to the hilt in the past and can't say I've always been thrilled.

Respect the fact that you can see the trees from the forests on this and something NOW has to give.

No suspensions, he won't change, had enough chances. He doesn't get it.

Send him packing, just hope a ROK for Fev deal can be done. Swans are in NRL Sydney, Fev stuff is second nature up there, they need a signature player and they won't pinch a flag from us in the next few years either. Just do it.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:55 pm 
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Well said Synners :thumbsup:

As for the Fev vs Swann thing, conisdering we'll only have Fev for a few more years maximum anyway, I'll go for Swann as I believe we'd be in DEEP shit if he weren't running things. So if he is made to look stupid by anyone, they deserve to be punished.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:55 pm 
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Look personally... i think Fev will stay... but he has ruffled a few feathers big time..
Usually .. Fev gets away with stuff....cos he can come out and kick 7 goals next week.

Well he cant do that now...

.. so for the first time in a long time the club is in 'the box seat'...

Good time to change a few things in his contract... to prove he wants to stay....

Good time for the club to slap him around the face a few times... to get that message through...

Fev needs to grow up.... not just for the club but also for himself and family...

I cant see how we can get him to depart with the salary cap rules and compensation...

But Fev needs to understand he has a massive problem.. that is affecting him and the club and he has to overcome it.

Start with not being on the footy show...

... and a few weeks sidelined...with no pay.

,,, and a new contract.. performance based AND conditions...


Fev can prove he is fair dinkum..... or just continue to be oblivious to whats required..

But he shouldnt be getting support for his childish behaviour...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:00 pm 
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Oh and by the way...

Fev has on the whole been ok this year behaviour wise..

But since Mad Monday... piss and Fev dont mix...

No need for it...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:05 pm 
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Oh and by the way...

Fev has on the whole been ok this year behaviour wise..

But since Mad Monday... piss and Fev dont mix...

No need for it...


Mad Monday 2000 ?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:05 pm 
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My neighbors two primary school boys have indicated they dont want to wear Brendans jumpers anymore.
In fact they are not sure if they want to follow Carlton anymore.
The long term damage of this idiot has yet to come to the surface.
This time it was too much.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:07 pm 
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Mad Mondays are for amateurs.

You dont need kids like Garlett Yarran and Robbo exposed to a binge drinking session led by the Fev....

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:15 pm 
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Warby wrote:
Personally; I'd suspend him for the first 6 games on no pay.

Something drastic has to occur to show him how serious the damage he's caused to the CFC.
Yes, i agree with that.
It may turn out to be beneficial to the side to see if we can function without Juddy and Fev.
(Mark McClure just said on 774 that he thinks we should try to trade him)


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So Synners whats the chances of Fev actually being sacked?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:20 pm 
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So Synners whats the chances of Fev actually being sacked?



i think they would just about sack him... but how do you do that?

they would trade him... but who would take him with his contract and what do you get as compensation?

fev isnt safe... not as safe as he thought he was...

Swann is furious...


i hear he is gone..... right now... but the logistics of that make it more difficult ...

id probably lean to keeping him... but on different terms...

and if ever youre going to give fev little time and space this is the time... he is not at a position of strength...

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he wont be sacked... he will be put on the open market or stay.. most likely stay.. because no-one will want him.

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Synbad wrote:
Mad Mondays are for amateurs.

You dont need kids like Garlett Yarran and Robbo exposed to a binge drinking session led by the Fev....


Yeah they are a bit silly.

Fevvie must be doing it tough at the moment. Hope someone is watching out for him.


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club29 wrote:
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Mad Mondays are for amateurs.

You dont need kids like Garlett Yarran and Robbo exposed to a binge drinking session led by the Fev....


Yeah they are a bit silly.

Fevvie must be doing it tough at the moment. Hope someone is watching out for him.


Fev has to realise its not about BOOM BUST...

He needs to straighten up to help lead this club to greatness.

His off field illustrates he could be even greater on field.. if he fixed the pther side up.
Plus a better husband and dad...

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Synbad wrote:
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Synbad wrote:
Mad Mondays are for amateurs.

You dont need kids like Garlett Yarran and Robbo exposed to a binge drinking session led by the Fev....


Yeah they are a bit silly.

Fevvie must be doing it tough at the moment. Hope someone is watching out for him.


Fev has to realise its not about BOOM BUST...

He needs to straighten up to help lead this club to greatness.

His off field illustrates he could be even greater on field.. if he fixed the pther side up.
Plus a better husband and dad...

Again, spot-on. Not once have I seen anyone consider that a clean Fev might also equal a better player. And of course it goes without saying, to be a better father. But let's let boys be boys right? No harm done.

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