Hey, leave us hippy leftist greenies out of it!

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A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty" -Winston Churchill

L.M 35-06

My goodness............!


kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

Fevola is being punished enough by this self destructive act.

It might seem like a hard thing to accept - because he is a repeat offender - but he needs to be given time and space to try again.

That process can be started by giving him credit for an excellent 2009 season.

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My Blue Heaven

I am prepared to give him another chance. If he can fight back from this he will be a great role model for young people australia wide. Carlton will also seen as a club that doesnt give up on a person and will also be a great example.

Trade him.
Sanctions and clauses within his contract serve little purpose. Fev doesn't think about the consequences of his actions before he acts. We all know people who are the same. They are full of remorse after the event but care little before that. It doesn't change.

Fortunately most football clubs think they can change the behaviour of players with their "culture". There will be a few clubs backing themselves in and offering up a fair deal for Fev. The club has been weak in it's acceptance of his behaviour to date. If it was anyone else, they'd be well and truly gone.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Dermie made a good point on SEN yesterday. When gary Ablett Snr was playing at Hawthorn at the the start of his career in the early 80s, the club knew he was a prodigious talent. But he was also a loose-canon and it was decided that he was a negative influence on the playing group as a whole. Hawthon made the tough decision and got rid of him. We all know he became a champion player, but how many premierships did Geelong with him? Answer: 0. Hawthorn on the other hand went on to win 5 premierships.

My fear is that Fev is a bad influence on our younger players. He is a distraction, an attention seeker. He plays for himself, not Carlton. If we are going to win no. 17 we need ruthless determination, complete focus and unquestioned commitment. Our player need to bleed blue, the way our 95 team did (look how many of those players are still devoted to the club).

Nore more excuses, lets get serious. Fev has to go. We have to set an example to the younger players that when you wear the navy blue, you have a responsibility to the club, the supporters and yourself. Multiple slip ups will not be tolerated.

According to Caro, we want to breath test Fev.....

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Feelgood Hit of the Winter - GHRP-2, GHRP-6, CJC-1295, AOD-9604, Humanofort and Hexarelin

I think they have tried to unload him several times but no one else wants him

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It all comes down to what you're prepared to trade him for, Syd. If you want a first rounder inside #10 you can have a cry that no-one will have him and we're 'stuck' with him.

If you really think his type of personality is doing too much damage to the playing group, you'll accept a 3rd rounder which will be handed over immediately.

As I've said, he needs to go to a club that has no prospects of winning a flag in the next 3-4 years and just needs a personality to get the crowd through the gate. Guess who?

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Dont understimate the egos of AFL coaches Sydney. There will be several clubs who will back their system in to turn him around.
I'd suggest Sydney Swans will be the first team lining up.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

I've stayed out of the debate because to be honest I dont really know where I stand on his future with the club.

One thing I'm surprised by though is the number of people who want to discard Fev when clearly he needs help that extends beyond his football. Yes he's continually made mistakes, but that makes it clearer he needs assistance to manage his problems.

Blaming others for this actions isn't right, Fev also needs to sit down and have a good look at his behaviour when he's drinking, but maybe we need to look at some of the groups who have let him down and the club stands at the top of that list.

Maybe now is the time to sit down with Fev, work with the AFL and more importantly the AFLPA if we need too and make sure he gets the councelling and assistance he needs.

I didn't watch TFS last night once I heard they were showing the footage, hypocrical of them to show that after firstly saying they wouldn't and threatening to sack him. They've clearly let him down by putting him in this situation. He barely got through last years Street Talk.

I have viewed the segment on youtube this morning and if thats the beer bottle incident they're talking about with Cooney...

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

He should've kicked a cab driver in the nuts....

That'd do it.....

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We (the club) and he (Fev) owe eachother nothing TBB.

Right now he is a professional footballer with an active career. If we decide to trade him on to another team, and they do due diligence on him, he's all theirs. Not our problem from this point on.

If we sack him and he doesn't get another gig in AFL, we owe him assistance in getting his life together after footy. That's it in a nutshell AFAIC.

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According to people at the club no one returns her calls. SHE TALKS SHIT

The same applies for two Heraldsun insignificant so called journos and thats why they never have anything good to say about our club

When people say Fev needs help, what do they mean??

He is not alcohol dependent. Alcoholics need a drink every day and when forced to abstain (such as in the hospital setting where I sometimes see such patients), they have symptoms such as shakes, agitation and sweats. This needs to be treated with sedative drugs. This is the classic addict that needs help.

Fev in no way resembles this. He probably drinks a lot less alchohol per year than the average Aussie male.

Fev's problem is he's a bit of an idiot when sober, and he becomes a complete moron when drunk.

There's not much you can do to stop or treat this type of pattern - it's not really a pathology at all.


It's all a moot point. We are aiming for a crack at the flag in the "Fev window" with the recruitment of McLean and there's no way the coaches would have the balls to backtrack on it now. Sadly, on field we are a joke without him.

We (Carlton) are dependent on Fev more than Fev is dependent on alcohol.

Recruit some forwards!

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They will know that they've been playing against the famous old dark blues

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Now guys please dont shoot me down here because for 1) I am totally not in favor of this and 2) It's a rumour ok (and we all know how 99% of these turn out). But I just heard that the Carlton Board have met this morning to discuss Fevola and the word is that it was 100% unanimous that the club will trade Fev. Sticks , Swann and co have ratified the decision and he will now be out up for trade.

Is anyone hearing the same?? Please tell me this is total BS

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HENDERSONALENKO......YOU BEAUTY!!!!!

One of those insignifcant Herald Sun Journos got an exclusive with him today.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

kots1-4, you've either made a fool of yourslef or become a legend .

Good luck my friend.

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Personally I believe that the club will investigate the trade option.

If he was a certainty to stay, we would no doubt have imposed a game suspension to go with the $10K fine. No point doing that if he's not at the club, so a trade is on the cards.

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