I thought questioning things was a birthright? Socrates how you've lied to me.[/quote]

to quote the Beatles (sort of)

socrates has got nothing on these babies.[/quote]

neither has hans christian anderson on the other babies

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Ubi dubium ibi libertas

when in dublin do as the dubliners do?

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That's true - and footballers and ex-footballers need to realise that they don't have all the answers. Just becasue they played the game, doesn't make them experts on the subject - just look at Spud .

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Fev tried that...

..quicky question to those with 'some' knowledge.. ....are these blood clots potentially a re-occuring problem for him..?.. ..and more-so, are the frequent plane-flights during the footy season possibly making it worse for him..?.. ..will he be a player that can only play victorian games over the long run..??..

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missed him big time on Saturday night ... we lost the ability to swing players around ... Bower was in no state to play that last quarter and for me this was the difference in the end.

Wrong County buddy.
Fev's 'incident' was in Galway.

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Spot on. What is often said is bullshit. I reckon Voss is becoming a master of this. Candidate to replace sleazebag Rud

Just back onto the issue,

these clots (as I understand) are potentially life threatening. I know of a 30 year old woman who died less than two months ago because a blood clot exploded in her leg and went into her heart.

So all I can say to Carlos is that I hope you get better really soon. All the best.

Yeah, lets get Little Jonny back so he can tell us stories of the children overboard, weapons of mass destruction, no gst, no oil in the Timor Sea.......all politicians are spin doctors. Voss should be in politics like the rest of the bull shit artists.

Have to say, Vossy sucked me in...and Bradshaw's pretend limp in the 2nd was pretty good too. Black's hammy? Pigs arse.

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I'm glad everybody sees this as a perfect time to vault onto the high horse, but - and keep in mind I was
spewing Setanta was dropped - the sources are so far confirmed as SEN and BigFooty...


...can anybody confirm this for sure?!

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blood clots in the take a fair while to dissolve - unless they are removed surgically.

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A few comments.

An arterial vascular problem is separate from a clot problem. If there is a localised narrowing in the artery, this will cause a lack of blood flow to the leg and hence difficulty with exertion and exercise, which matches Setanta's symptoms described previously. A clotting problem in the venous system would unlikely present in this manner and typically requires anticoagulation (blood thinning) rather than surgery. Hence plane flights are not an issue. A clotting problem in the arterial system is even more unlikely (ie zero) as this is a medical emergency in terms of hours.

Finally, a localised narrowing in the artery is unlikely to correlate with more widespread vascular issues (stroke, heart attacks etc) such as seen in older people, smokers or those with chronic diabetes so there are no particular mortality issues to be concerned about. Although a rare condition, the fact that Setanta has had it in one leg means that he was more likely than most to have it happen in the other leg as well. If the narrowing is surgically widened, I would expect the symptoms to be totally relieved.

I don't have any inside information on Setanta specifically, but though I'd allay some of the fears previously posted above with the knowledge that I do have.

..thanks a bunch.. ..so, in saying what you have.. ..this new problem is in his other leg right..?.. ..so was the first affected leg operated on in the way you mention..?.. ..such as, it won't have recurring problems/sysmptons and the second leg will likewise be 'fixed' off-season..?..

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so if there is a surgical solution to localised narrowing of leg arteries would this be done using a stent - as is done with heart problems?

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In my experience these issues are usually easily treated with a standard blood-thinning agent. However, in Setanta's case that wouldn't be an option whilst he plays a contact sport. But I'm no doctor.

The suggestion that the problem is in his opposite leg was from the posters above, I'm merely commenting on the medical aspects.

I seem to recollect that Setanta had a scar on the first leg from a post a long time ago, but I haven't seen the scar myself nor could be bothered trying to find the post, if indeed it did exist. If it is true that he has a scar, this would suggest that the solution was surgical rather than procedural (ie a stent) which wouldn't have such a significant scar. A localised anatomical abnormality in a young person would have different and better solutions to those in older people with more generalised disease and co-morbid conditions. The latter would be offered bypass or graft procedures and such forth.

No blood thinning agents would be necessary in the short or long term.

Just reading this for the first time.

I heard Kouta that morning on SEN; Setanta told him that his lower leg feels numb.....he loses any feeling with the ground.

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