Dal santo said he was very good one on one and good at adressing the whole playing group
he appears to have runs on the board at the saints doggies and swans
Listening to that press conference with Riley he came accross as thick as two planks to me
Very uninspiring

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Would be interesting to know if there are any performance / exit clauses or is a watertight contract. Given Swan's nous I would be surprised if the club did not have the flexibilty to terminate at a reasonable cost.

Agree on pt 2, think our recruiting planets are aligned, coaching NO !

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He is inexperienced but he could/should have had more experience before he started and/or had more experienced people around him. Can we 'waste' a year or two because the coach is learning? He could very possibly end up being an excellent coach but it seems we are losing time because he has to learn a lot first before we can progress.

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Its an absolute shame Pagan was sacked in 2007 and not 2006, one year to late. 2006 Rossy Lyon was appointed as Saints coach. Ross Lyon who served under Parkin, PAGAN and Roos. Did someone say Dennis Pagan and Paul Roos (those two have no idea about winning premierships) where as the Norwood football club of the district league do.

The moral to this story is that the club failed us by having no process which could have found us a Ross Lyon type of coach.

I know, but that decision was already made by the people who signed his contract. We had already tried a very experienced premiership coach (Pagan), and we all know what happened there.

YES MELVS I know you are an apologist for Essendon* because they suit your argument but fact remains they are 4 points behind us and 8 % behind - its a bit like Hawthorn complaining about injuries for this years performance -nice spin

- you can prefer Knights to Ratten I dont and I dont think he is doing so much better than our guy - their best players still seem to be lloyd and fletcher

Its a bit like everyone saying Paddy Rider is a great young ruckman and not mentioning Kreuzer

I understand Essendon* are a glamour team but in my view are overhyped

Essendon* lost to Richmond - and apart from Hille dont seem to have a great number of good players out

We beat Richmond without jamison walker warnock waite just to name a few - we havent been able to access walker and warnock (our no 1 ruckman ) and our chb who was in all australian form in waite hasnt played for 10 weeks at least

Our midfield fit and firing stevens(one of our key midfielders) is in the vfl - a key midfielder -judd looks like he is on one leg - bentick another midfielder didnt have a pre-season either


fev played with a bruised heel for the first 10 games -carrazzo and grigg had interrupted pre-seasons as did fisher
Jamison perhaps our best defender has missed about 6 matches this season with injury

All teams have injuries and we have had plenty this year
Lets apply standards equally thats all we ask

When did i say i prefer Knights over Ratten. Its that the Bombers went through a process to find the right person for the job!!!!!!

Maybe if our club had interviewed a few we might have found ourselves a Lyon, Clarkson or maybe Knights.

I said the Bombers have about 7 guys playing who missed the vital october to december training and most are the guts of there midfield and there better players.

The only player we have to have missed the october to december training was Scottland, and he is paying for it.

They to had Welshe, Prismal and McVeigh missing for majority of the year.

QFT

FFS we are Carlton!!! We shouldn't be settling for someone who's learning on the job. We're better than that, and we should be expecting more.

Honestly, the decision to extend his contract early hasn't received nearly the scrutiny it deserves. This list and club would get any available coach it wanted. Buckley, Malthouse, whoever.

Gee so Ratten had a bad one.

Maybe we should blame some of the players who couldn't follow the game plan.

In the last quarter players were asked to take risks and go straight down the middle.

Appears Fev was sooking at 3 Quarter time. His 1st lead of the last quarter was in the wrong direction.

If players follow the plan anything is possible like against Fremantle.

Seems a few only play when all the chips are down.

ONE????

Need to get this thread back to resembling alternative options to Ratts as the first post asked or will be merging with the Ratts thread.

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And yet theyre that crap they have beaten us the laast 5 times under Ratten...in exactly the same way.... take our taggers wide and leave the inside open to a swarm....

So whats that say about Ratts????

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I'll do it for free plus all the Crownies I can drink on match nights.
You lot will have to promise to go easy on me if it takes a few weeks to get the gist of it though, or I'm going to withdraw the offer.

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Just on that... is it too much for some kind of independant board to go out and source 4 or 6 or 10 best candidates for the job and choose the one they believe is best?
Then attach a great group of assistant coaches to that man?
And the very best of infrustrtructure around them???

Why does it have to be Brett ' no experience or grounding' Ratten.. and 15 year retired ex players.. with a couple of recently retired footballers as assistants???.. chosen by the Frank Spencer of AFL football decisions Sticks Kernahan....

It just doesnt look right to me... and it wont translate into anything positive as things stand..

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i'll tell you what he's learned, jack shisen

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it's like groundhog day, he has a bad one........over and over again.

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Agreed

Mmmmmm, tough one.


I know, Pagan!!!!

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