Yeah, this weeks tattslotto numbers would be good too.

Can you also answer why someone who volunteers his time and effort for the club, gives up his weekends and holidays looking at future prospects for no return, should waste his time answering questions from people who offer nothing?

....and when you've finished that, can you clean out my spouting?

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

oooh I'll clean out your spouting if you flush out my pipes

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

How many good players are missing from our backline at the moment? If it is an excuse for Brisbane then it surely must be an excuse for us. I would love Bower running out of defence, Waite running out of defence and perhaps Walker playing off a half back flank.
Do these players count or do only opposition players?

Use logical reasons for our form not contradictory rubbish.

He really started to find the pace of AFL footy in Round 14 last year and has been in the best 16 times in his last 24 games since then.

I've been thinking about it, and really we have played a very weak side the last couple of weeks in the context of any whole list. We are missing several players which add a lot of class to our list.

Namely:
Waite, who adds speed and skill all over the ground
Walker, who ALSO adds speed and skill
&
Bower, who adds the desperately needed run out of the backline (!!!)

if there was actually these 3 in the side we would look and play a lot better. Also Scotland adds some class too.

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#23: Lachlan Henderson

You could say.............................................................................He's a work in progress.

Regards Cazeesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

True BV but that would just be a cop out, to fall back on that old chestnut.

So the answer to all those questions are.....................................................Nup. Go nuthin.

I could say that I have nothing to do with any of those decisions. I could say I'm merely a Carlton supporter who stands in the outter at Coburg and Oakleigh most cold weekends but then some would think I have something to hide by saying such.

And besides. Would it really, really matter to those asking, what I said, if I said it?

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

I would like to nominate this as the most tedious thread on TC. Rapidly getting to the level that the JR thread reached before it was humanely put out of its misery by the mods.

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I need some new conspiracy theories; all my others have come true.

Good deflection BV

Like Travis Johnstone
So the next time you trott out the line that we outsiders know nothing think about the non answers Cazz

See i was thinking more along the lines of....................

Goddard
Cooney
Hodge
Murphy..................

So next time you post crap and hang shlt about a Star in GIBBS......... THINK.

Oh and by the way when he becomes a Superstar of this game then i don't wanna read any of your carp coz the egg on your face in a couple of years will be enough.


If opposition supporters read this site and YOUR stupid posts about him then they would be laughing as i am.............

THE KID IS A STAR and 15 other clubs would bend over backwards to have him.

touchy . what a very silly answer? is anyone holding a gun to his head. i assume he wants to do the job. if he doesn't want to answer the questions fine. i actually would like answers to those questions. just thought someone who has a picture of yoda under their name would know everything.

So when's the big day??????

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

My old man always said "If you ask a silly question, you'll get a silly answer"
You should have been expecting it.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Im not too sure we should take too much notice of people like Walls and Healy, their summary on most teams is pretty shallow.

There was an awful lot of negative noise coming from these same people about the Saints last year particularly after the nil all draw with the eventual premiers. Now they have a great list and play with purpose since DalSanto and Milne were disiplined.

The same with discussion on how Melb our now so bad that they would be silly to win anymore games, yet the perspective is that Carlton tanked more so than any other team!!

What we need to focus on is the way our team is shaping up, Grigg had some really insightful points about the setups in the middle for the blues and what his role is, it is a shame he was missing earlier in the year, after such a good preseason and form on the board. It is these types of issues (whether you like it or not) that impact on our performance.

I think that the problem with CHF has also affected our NEW game plan etc. Fisher was injured, so too Wiggins, Ratts also pointed out that Walker was to be used in that role until injury, Warnock's injury has been longer than anticipated, and obviously it was hoped that Cloke could fill the role (I have no problem with trying these things out because sometimes a surprise player may do a good job ie. Setanta. All these circumstances are not excuses they are just part of not being able to get the plans in motion.

The run off half back is another example, Waite, Scotland, Stevens, Johnson, Carazzo, Bower have all had issues and this has meant that despite best laid plans Armfield has had to fill this role sometimes even though his disposal wasnt quite there (something which Riley pointed out preseason).

No team has their full list to chose from but when a young, inexperienced side who are still learning how to play to the coaches instructions have to deal with it, it can seem very haphazard. Even Geelong struggle to deal with structural players out.

On the other hand there are many positives if you care to look, because Warnock has been held up we've both Hammer and Jacobs set up and really impress. Because of Carrots injury early on we saw AJ really blossum into a great run with player. With Walker injury we saw Gartlett given a lot more time up forward than we ever expected. We've seen Setanta really offer something at CHF. Injury to Waite has seen Aussie come on in leaps and bounds.

There is nearly something fantastic happen on every line of the team set up this year due to turning a negative into a positive, sure it may have cost us a few games due to inexperience and not taking all of our chances but the improvement is undoubted.

For shame John! Such logic has no place in here....

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When Dick became President, it was as if everyone at Carlton came out of the hailstorm and into the sunshine - Stephen Kernahan

YARRAN!!





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I hate to get into extended discussion on this board because the gap between opinions is sometimes widened by emotions and irrationality. Criticism is sometimes shot down as wild negative rants designed to upset others and dispelled as posts of people who cant possibly have Carlton close to their hearts. And this is rubbish.

I understand the arguments about the team and perhaps many facets of the club being a work in progress and the existence of perhaps unrealised potential still in the team and the list but I, among others, have concerns - either about the style of play, form, coaching ability and tactics, list management, player development, etc.

At the moment, I don't think that we are a top eight team and for a number of reasons have not progressed to the level that potentially we could be at, mostly due to drafting and player development IMHO. I admit, I don't have a lot of inside news and updates and perhaps can't even isolate very specific detailed reasons for my concerns but nonetheless what I am watching week in, week out does not suggest to me that my criticism are in someway not justifiable, lack credence or a wildly off the mark.

Both the scum and the filth are, at present, more advanced than we are IMO and are more of a threat in the finals should both be there than we are. I am very interested to see how we will go against the roos in coming weeks as I reckon this will be a good litmus test for us. The swans are in steep decline so this is of less significance and the game against the filth will be very hard but the roos are steadily improving and getting some good players back and I think will present a very tough game for us. Our form isn't great and whether by chance or design, this is the result of some worthwhile concern and criticsm

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C'mon Blueboys!

I disagree; our drafting has been excellent in the last few years and our player development has gone from non-existent under Pagan to 1st class.

Its just that Im not expecting to have a team of world beaters this year or even next year.

Your comment about the Roos sums up very well how I feel about our team, we are steadily improving and will get some good (and important structurally) players back.

Why is the result against the swans insignificant? surely if Ratts can mastermind a win against a very well drilled and experienced team like the Swannies that would indicate something to you?

The day after you and Melvey I'd hazzard a guess.





Isn't timing just everything in life.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”