Ladder.

Percentage.

Teamwork*.

Skills*.

Prospects






* I'm the first person who realises that these points need a metric shitload of work before we're going to be a flag team, by the way.

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KK the draft penalties were 5 years ago...
The quagmire is a new quagmire if we cant take meaningful steps.

You cant just hope to improve....

I wanna see some changes in the coaches box at the end of the year...

if its not ratts it has to be to alot of those around him...

i want to see REAL improvement next year... not falling over the line against bottom 2 sides... Juddy flogged to death with his work load... a one dimmensional forward line... a midfield that runs one way... and are happy to chip the ball around with no potency... and a bunch of stoppers against average sides.

ratts plays to not lose.. not to win...

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He also didn't inherit a list that had a core who had the mental scarring of being thrashed for a number of years. Not to mention being drilled to play a gameplan that was the antithesis of modern football. A lot of re-education was needed and it is still an ongoing process, as some of our blokes still revert to old habits under pressure.

I agree with everything you've said, except the last sentence. Even that does seem to be what happens against some teams, but I don't think it's the default position.

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Belasarius..

Ratts is the man mentally scarred... not the players.

Ratts will use the Pagan card forever...

Sooner or later he will have to get up from his crawl and begin to walk....

Its too easy to blame Pagan....

Even Thomas didnt blame Watson Blight and their 100 years of darkness....2 years in....

Lame.....

Hes the coach... his job is to get the most out of the players as a group and individually...

Anyway.. glad you made that excuse up and i havent heard if from Ratts... he uses meaningless stats...

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I am going to guess that as neither you or Synbad can define or articulate what a game plan is or provide examples of other teams then your points on the game plan is questionable.

People keep going on about it, but no one can provide actuals of what they mean.

We are a developing side, who still have issues and areas that we need to develop.

I can see where the team is developing and the structure we are trying to build.

Backs:

Agile and able to flexiblle to the changing nature of the modern games forward structure. 3-4 talls, all who have the ability to run as well. They Play on bigs and mids. This ability is the reason we match the Pies well. 2 half back flankers who provide run. Small backpocket.

Forwards:

Still a work in progress but Warnock is the key to this structure and the ability to release Kreuzer to second tall. O'Hailphin will play the 3rd agile target. Players such as Walker and Yarran are vital to bring flexibility to the structure. They are the mid size players that Geelong and the Pies utilisie so well. Betss and Garlett to provide forward line pressure.

Mids:
We can this is our strength. Need the bodies to harden up but this is progressing well.

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Who said it was masterful, it was a crap game, but vital for us to win and we did Be happy.

St Kilda should be thrashing West Coast or not

That is a cop out.

How has Ross Lyon got the Saints playing a completely different style of football then?

Matty Knights has excited his team and got them playing good football.

Why does StKilda need to thrash anyone?
2 games clear plus percentage...

Thats 3 games clear...6 or 7 to go...



yes?

no???



love the straw clutch arguments...

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SA handlballing it to a guy standing still while you play with a few stoppers and zone at the same time... is not a gameplan.

i appreciate it is a gameplan .. but you dont devise gameplans to lose....with the hope to win..

watch adelaide
dogs
stkilda
geelong
Essendon*
collingwood

theyre all playing to a pattern of play that includes the team as a whole and to their players individual strengths..the different styles they use are thougth out to win games of footy by maximisation of whatever they have at their disposal..

then watch us...

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So you don't think the players have any demons to exorcise? Waite was talking on ABC radio recently about how nervous he gets before StKilda games, due to the past thrashings. I guess Ratts was responsible for all those past hidings as well, even though he wasn't at the club .

That has them in the exact same position as us.

Tell me, do you think the Essendon* game plan can win a flag?

They play a high risk style that can be closed down by the top sides, (Geelong, Brisbane, Pies and Saints) who have all shut them down easily. Their style won't win flags.

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When I look at those teams I see

Experience hard bodied teams in their prime - Saints and Cats
A team about to be exposed - Adelaide hasn't played a top 6 side in almost 2 months.
Don't rate - Dons
Dogs - Good footy side, but will never win a flag with their current structure
Pies - They are a well organised team, with a coach coming up to over 10 years (?) of developing a side with 0 flags. Would you be happy with that?

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There style is modeled around Geelong's and THEY'VE WON A PREMIERSHIP.

What is ours thats gonna win us a premiership?

So they never stuff up and everything always works. You are unrealistic. Nothing is perfect.
Why is it that you only see what works at other clubs and what doesn't at ours. You will never enjoy the football again if you keep on being obsessed with the negatives, perceived or real. We are 8-7. With a bit of luck we could have been at least 10-5. I see that as improvement.

You mean the Collingwood and Dogs we beat by the way

You are not seriously comparing Geelong's style to the Dons. Geelong have a high possession (400+) constant movement style. They are not quick, but utilise hard bodies and good skills with a multi pronged small forward line. The Dons use speed of the half back line through the corridor. High risk, but when it comes off (against us ) it looks good.

Essendon* have 1 plan, and no plan b.

Our style will be built around flexibility and run.

As i said in an earlier post, the flexible back line generating run will be key.

The absolute key will be the hardening of bodies in the mid field. Gibbs and Murphy in 2 - 3 years time will be coming into their peak. This is our time. 3 elite mids, with a deep rotation (Similar to the Eagles in 05-06) is our key advantage over the like of the Dons and Pies. They do not have the talent to go all the way.

The forward line is the least developed and I hope the like of Yarran (Synbad - are you still confident?) can become what we hope they can be.

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I read it as him comparing Geeling and St Kilda.

Don't see it myself.

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Geelong are also much more defensively accountable. They hold the record for the most tackles in a game in their premiership year.

What was Geelong's plan B in last years grand final?

The Cats own the corridor. The Bombers use the corridor

Geelong play on and move the ball quickly. The Bombers play on and move the ball quickly

Geelong have bigger stronger bodies. The Bombers are a young side

Both teams play positive attacking football on there terms.

Both teams go out there to kick more goals than there opposition which is what's the game about

This thread goes in circles page by page - so many repetitive posts. Getting close to a wankfest.

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