No thread sucks flowers.. otherwise it wouldnt be a thread.
It would be a topic..

This one is a great one.......

We get told Ratts can coach after scraping a win together after falling 5 goals behind an undermanned Freo.. with some horrible discipline to boot.

This thread must stay ..... till we either improve or he gets the big heave ho....

Cos we cant stay treading water forever...




Ps i love how some people say "Ratts is the man........ cos........ ummmmmmmmmmmmm... errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.... i dunno.... hes ok.... but i wanna say hes the man....."

cracks me up.........

"no real reason.... but he is.....................and if he isnt......sticks would know........... cos sticks ummmmmmmmmmmmmm..... errrrrrrrrr....... sticks is also the man........ ........ cos pratt made him president.......... and pratt is smart cos he is a billionaire....... never made a mistake in his life............... and if pratt reckons sticks is the man... and sticks reckons ratts is the man......... hes the man.......... thats why ratts is the mani dont care he cant have us playing fluid footy.......... whats fluid footy anyway.????..... like against ummmm st kilda???....... we played fluid footy against stkilda...................were young.........youngest team in the comp.........thats why we cant kick out.............were young.... and anyway... supporters thought frawley was shit after 2 years anyway.............. oh!!! i mean clarkson.......... clarkson was being questioned. about his coaching............. i dont care if clarkson reads books and went through a process............ sticks done the process.......... and sticks was appointed by pratt..... and pratt has never done a boo boo in his life............thats the carlton process.......... and i dont care if the mix in the box is a half a dozen guys who are mates with ratts an sticks................ theyre all premiership players from 20 odd years ago... and who caqres if they have been retired for 10 and all work for docklands press...???.... with sticks...................sticks knows..... hes the man.............................. shut up you cancer!!!!!..... youre just a sourpuss....youve never evern played afl footy what would u know???... betchya you havent even coached afl...... ever!!!..!!!... "

tell you the truth kids i love reading that...... unfortunately it does shows us how far we have fallen in a decade or so...

But isn't Ratts telling our players to play inconsistently?

Blue Vain its very relevent
Jurrah had never played AFL before this year. He is from out of nowhere. The Demons took a risk on the back of a recommendation from an ex AFL player whose name escapes me(may have been Betheras). This kid has it all. Great hands, feel for the game, is quick a bit different to Bentley who we rookied for god knows reasons.


In rare circumstances you pick a recycled player in the drafts but only if they are good enough or not riddled with a long trem injury and its something the club needs
The doggies have been the best at this recently with Aker Hudson and Welsh
We have picked Duds like Bentley.Its a disgrace and highlights this clubs pathetic attitude to who gets pick whilst a kid like Anderson continues to play seconds footy much better than Bentley yet Bentley gets picked twice over him.

Jurrah is a risk Yep
You know what you are going to get from Bentley, Hadley and Johnson
They have been in the system long enough for us not to go out and recruit hacks.

Does that make more sense

Keogh we did recruit our "Jurrah" this year......... Gartlett and a much better pick than the Dees got too!!!!!

So the comparison should Jurrah or Gartlett not Bentley!!

Surely you can see why we picked up all of Hadley, Johnson and Bentley and why we have played them.

They offered a instantly hard body in a team of young, inexperienced boys and who knows how well they may come on in a new team/club environment.

Lets not forget that both Hadley and Johnson were moved from teams who were very unhappy to see them go!!!! So they must have had some currency (not Hacks) and we got them for nothing.

I think they all were calculated risks which shows considerable thought and analysis by the recruiters/football department. In the end they may work... but just as speculative as a young rookie with no expreience in the big league.

I also think they may still offer us a year or two of benefit until our youngins' mature a little more.

Bentley needs to be tried for a few more games before being rejected outright, but yes I would have preferred Ando to be given a run.

Keogh we did recruit our "Jurrah" this year......... Gartlett and a much better pick than the Dees got too!!!!!

So the comparison should Jurrah or Gartlett not Bentley!!

Surely you can see why we picked up all of Hadley, Johnson and Bentley and why we have played them.

They offered a instantly hard body in a team of young, inexperienced boys and who knows how well they may come on in a new team/club environment.

Lets not forget that both Hadley and Johnson were moved from teams who were very unhappy to see them go!!!! So they must have had some currency (not Hacks) and we got them for nothing.

I think they all were calculated risks which shows considerable thought and analysis by the recruiters/football department. In the end they may work... but just as speculative as a young rookie with no expreience in the big league.

I also think they may still offer us a year or two of benefit until our youngins' mature a little more.

Bentley needs to be tried for a few more games before being rejected outright, but yes I would have preferred Ando to be given a run.

No thread sucks flowers.. otherwise it wouldnt be a thread.
It would be a topic..

This one is a great one.......

We get told Ratts can coach after scraping a win together after falling 5 goals behind an undermanned Freo.. with some horrible discipline to boot.

This thread must stay ..... till we either improve or he gets the big heave ho....

Cos we cant stay treading water forever...




Ps i love how some people say "Ratts is the man........ cos........ ummmmmmmmmmmmm... errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.... i dunno.... hes ok.... but i wanna say hes the man....."

cracks me up.........

"no real reason.... but he is.....................and if he isnt......sticks would know........... cos sticks ummmmmmmmmmmmmm..... errrrrrrrrr....... sticks is also the man........ ........ cos pratt made him president.......... and pratt is smart cos he is a billionaire....... never made a mistake in his life............... and if pratt reckons sticks is the man... and sticks reckons ratts is the man......... hes the man.......... thats why ratts is the mani dont care he cant have us playing fluid footy.......... whats fluid footy anyway.????..... like against ummmm st kilda???....... we played fluid footy against stkilda...................were young.........youngest team in the comp.........thats why we cant kick out.............were young.... and anyway... supporters thought frawley was shit after 2 years anyway.............. oh!!! i mean clarkson.......... clarkson was being questioned. about his coaching............. i dont care if clarkson reads books and went through a process............ sticks done the process.......... and sticks was appointed by pratt..... and pratt has never done a boo boo in his life............thats the carlton process.......... and i dont care if the mix in the box is a half a dozen guys who are mates with ratts an sticks................ theyre all premiership players from 20 odd years ago... and who caqres if they have been retired for 10 and all work for docklands press...???.... with sticks...................sticks knows..... hes the man.............................. shut up you cancer!!!!!..... youre just a sourpuss....youve never evern played afl footy what would u know???... betchya you havent even coached afl...... ever!!!..!!!... "

tell you the truth kids i love reading that...... unfortunately it does shows us how far we have fallen in a decade or so...

+1.....RUTHLESS TO TOOTHLESS IN 15 YEARS (the club and some supporters)

Gotta laugh outta this post,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,not once was Ratten mentioned

Am I in the right topic, i thought this was about if Ratten is "The Man" or Not The Man".


Now back to the subject !!!!!!!


So if ratten is "Not The Man", how long do you persevere with him ?.

And if he stays to long, we could lose our door of opportunityto win a premiership.

Expectations of this year is to make finals, if we dont , does he get the boot or do you give him another year ?

And if he gets another year, what would be the expectations for next year ?


yeah I know, i have no ideas to offer, just questions !!!!

That is such a ridiculous thing to say.

The Club is in the process of turning around the on-field fortunes of the club, the worst it's ever been, and hasn't yet had the chance to return to Carlton's best, ruthless ways.

You think shitcanning the club, coach and players is ruthless? It's lame. Bordering on pathetic.

yep very clear - take that St Kilda game - no wait, can't take that one, we played well, take the Bummers game, yep that one we can take, and the freo game - but only the first quarter really, ignore the rest of the game we dominated (though we missed the shots on goal in the third). Remember the hawks game - oh no we must dismiss that, but we can remember the Collingwood game right - wrong, so umm what games do we take heed of? The ones we lost - the rest we should have won or were lucky to win - so ignore them.

yep its very clear Ratts can't coach - all things considered

Surely the club must be speaking to both Dean Laidley and Brenton Sanderson

Piff off RIley and Braddles and bring in these two guys to work with Ratten

He will be questioned until the team becomes consistent.
Right know there are two teams that are consistent (Geel & StK), four teams (Adel, Coll, WB, Bris) that have had bad patches but have been able to string wins together and then the group making up numbers (Carl, Ess, Port Adel, Haw, Syd). I reckon we should be in the second tier.

He will be questioned until the team becomes consistent.
Right know there are two teams that are consistent (Geel & StK), four teams (Adel, Coll, WB, Bris) that have had bad patches but have been able to string wins together and then the group making up numbers (Carl, Ess, Port Adel, Haw, Syd). I reckon we should be in the second tier.

So Synbad..................

Am i right in thinking that your not actually saying that Ratten "Isn't the man" or that you don't want him "To be the man"....................... your just saying that he has shown very little so far to suggest that he "Is" or "Can" be "The Man".

??????

How does the age and experience of those groups correlate?

On the weekend, Geelong and St Kilda, average age of 25.9 and 25.5 respectively.

Adelaide 24.8, Collingwood 24.6, Bulldogs 25.10 and Brisbane 24.1.

Carlton were 23.2.
Questioning the consistency of the playing group is disregarding the facts AFAIC. Compare Carlton is 12 months time when they're comparable in age and I'm sure they'll be easily in group 2.