Sticks should have been caretaker coach...

Then due dilligence...

Now were caught in the sludge ... especially with the extension... and Sticks as president.

Doesnt take long to be a Richmond either... you just need to continually make the worst decisions.
They were not shit 25 years ago..... but with a series of mistakes they bace shit!!!

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Did Essendon* get him straight out of retirement?

That's OK unless they're Teague and Lappin...

Unless they're coaching at Essendon* like Hickmott and Camporeale, former Carlton players should stick to writing for Inside Footy.

So.......just to make the whole process transparent, can you tell us how you became the gatekeeper......just so there are no issues later

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Not wrong even our supporters are resembling Richmond supporters - The Rot has realy set in

Yes that would've been ideal but it would have been a big ask with the Judd ball in the air too.

Look we appointed Riley who was a candidate and he went and won against the Dogs and you in R22 cutting us off from a PP in 2007 (say Callan Ward) and pick 2 last year (Naitanui). It would've been far better if we had organised that differently but I accept that it would've been a big ask.

That said, with that knowledge in hand we better not screw up getting picks 1 & 2 this year - another loss to WC this weekend should seal it.

You'll beat WC for sure ol55. Nervous times ahead for true dees supporters. Be assured, getting 1 AND 2 is the right thing to do for you guys.

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There's so much I could say...

Make the right decisions and get the right people at the club and we wont have anything whing about.

Good to see you on here again old55. The Dogs win was the disaster for the Dees. With NicNat and Ward plus 1 and 2 this year added to current young talent, 2012-17 would be looking good. I guess the nervous nellies on here, and I am one, see a window that only opens for a few years and then there is someone else to take your place. If you don't grab success when the window opens, it can be shut for a long time. We are impatient, but we are also nervous that we have all the off field stuff in the best hands to make the most of our opportunities. In 2007 we could have left Pagan as coach for the last few games. No problems for the PP and a clear field to pick from for coach. Maybe Ratts would have got it, but it would have been a serious process that ensured he really was the best available and not just in the right place at the right time.

So how bad are the Bulldogs and Collingwood going...they've lost to us and we're terrible.

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Reasonable point except that you are talking about something that has not occured whilst we are discussing something that has already occured.

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Ratten hasn't got the strategies to coach successfully. Kernahan must not be involved at all in the football department of the club. He has been involved in the football department far to long certainly during Carlton's worst years .He is the ultimate survivor both were great players.Ratts cant coach and Kernahan has been there far to long.

Last time i looked theyre 3 games clear of us.......

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Yeah, but they lost to us....terrible old gameplanless oldboys club us.

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Yes but the Collingwood game we played their reserves...

And theyre stilll miles ahead of us...

We lost to the Swans and the Saints in 1995....

So what???

Theyre playing football that has them in the top 4..and they can afford to drop games to us.....

But get this straight in your thought process,....

.. if clubs make the four and have a shake at a flag... but you arent there.... but get a huge woody cos u beat them ...and were miles behind that same opportunity .....you have just been transformed into a StKilda supporter from the eighties...

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Well the fact that the Pies have played the Dees twice wouldn't have contributed to them being 3 games clear.

The love in between the Sailor Man and J&K is most distressing.

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You can blame that on the coach as well...

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Rattens not the biggest concern for me ....
The club culture is a concern... "Carlton swagger"... sounds good..but at this age of drafts and salary caps.. multi million dollar turnovers... fighting for corporate sponsorship.. huge tv rights who want succesful clubs.....AFL handouts... and an overall homogenisation of the league... you have to be very good to get ahead.

If youre not a cutting edge club you wont do it...

Our biggest strengths from the past ihave now become our achilles heel.
Where we look back and inwards.. other clubs are pioneering and exploring possibilities that may give them the smallest of edge.
Interstate clubs dont come with the baggage of the VFL so theyre more likely to be more daring in the search for the edge that may be enough to tip the scales to their advantage... so in the past decade is it any wonder interstate clubs have won the majority of flags?????

while some clubs look back to the days of the VFL... other clubs are groundbreaking...

Pratt was great in that he gave us a cash injection.. which we needed and will be grateful forever for... but as an ex player from a bygone era.. and surrounded by dinosaurs... maybe we looked too much to within instead of looking for the best possible and that would have meant from outside.. as none of the blokes have been involved in a flag for 15 years... dont have the qualifications... and have a bond that was rooted to ancient hisory in footy terms..
The modern game has changed more in the last 10 and especially 5 years than it has for a century before ...and its speeding and evolving weekly...

You need the best possible!!!.. on and off...!!

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Actually the Pies are only 2 games clear.

2 games clear = 2 games against the Dees.

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Still two games clear..........

... but if youre looking to knit pick DUC....

Theyre a side that doesnt have a great list and it goes about the game in a workmanlike manner.. and theyre well drilled...

Malthouse has had them up... if you compare their lost for a long time....

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