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Which two players should be promoted as a Nominated Rookie?
Ellard 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
Joseph 21%  21%  [ 64 ]
Gartlett 35%  35%  [ 105 ]
Stanton 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Bentley 0%  0%  [ 1 ]
Pfeiffer 5%  5%  [ 15 ]
Hill 1%  1%  [ 3 ]
Jacobs 37%  37%  [ 113 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:52 pm 
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Regardless of all the hype ... I don't think Joseph did such an amazing job on Ablett. It was ok .. but just ok. Don't believe this bloke is going to be the answer for us ... just like i don't believe Bentick will be needed in the midfield. Both brown and Army have really shown something over last year and in MY OPINION will in the long run be MUCH better options. Brown is tough .. skills are not bad ... Army is a great tackler, never gives up .. has improved his disposal and can run like the wind.

I really think we need Garlett in the forward line NOW. He has been much more impressive than Yarran ... and gives us extra bite. Like many other people I reckon that this is our biggest weakness ... more avenues to goal ... I reckon its the number one priority. Not strengthening our back pocket/tagger resources. We have Army/Brown/Anderson/Bannister and even Bentick for that role. I want Carlton to prioritize needs. Garlett should be playing seniors and is needed ... NOW.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:45 pm 
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imagine bentick on ablett

that would be hilarious

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:47 pm 
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Bit disappointed Joseph has gone up ahead of Gartlett, but hey, I think the MC has slightly more of an idea of what is going on that forum posters. :wink:

Guess they see Joseph as capable of performing a role and we need to give him that chance now, whereas Gartlett has much more time to be given the opportunity. And, to a degree, he already show us what he is capable of. Lots!

Rapt for the big fella though!

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Young Aaron might be well advised to refrain from posting on Facebook who he is shadowing that week, even if it is only a NAB game! :oops:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:50 pm 
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Garlett's time will come if he has the long term goods, and I believe he has.
re: Garlett/Gartlett see the club player list on http://www.carltonfc.com.au/2009%20play ... fault.aspx
Lets go with the present official view (at least until it changes).

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:10 pm 
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graemep wrote:
Garlett's time will come if he has the long term goods, and I believe he has.
re: Garlett/Gartlett see the club player list on http://www.carltonfc.com.au/2009%20play ... fault.aspx
Lets go with the present official view (at least until it changes).


Spoke to that Geelong defender guy Scartlett and he told me it's definitely Gartlett ... must be a typo on the web.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:17 pm 
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BlueRob wrote:
Regardless of all the hype ... I don't think Joseph did such an amazing job on Ablett. It was ok .. but just ok. Don't believe this bloke is going to be the answer for us ... just like i don't believe Bentick will be needed in the midfield.


I don't agree with the above. Joseph did things I haven't seen at Carlton for more than a decade (better than Franchina with todays heavy handed officiating). He kept up with a leading ABLETT over and over again. I mean Ablett got 21 possessions with a lot of them being 1-2 passeges of play. Ablett kicked a freak goal from a 50/50 shot.

Whilst I have reservations with Joseph, I do like what he brings to the plate. If he can keep up and get the better of him (imo), he should handsomely blanket any opposition's games breaker (Cooney, Mitchell, Sewell, Black, Hayes...)


I totally agree with everything below:



Both brown and Army have really shown something over last year and in MY OPINION will in the long run be MUCH better options. Brown is tough .. skills are not bad ... Army is a great tackler, never gives up .. has improved his disposal and can run like the wind.

I really think we need Garlett in the forward line NOW. He has been much more impressive than Yarran ... and gives us extra bite. Like many other people I reckon that this is our biggest weakness ... more avenues to goal ... I reckon its the number one priority. Not strengthening our back pocket/tagger resources. We have Army/Brown/Anderson/Bannister and even Bentick for that role. I want Carlton to prioritize needs. Garlett should be playing seniors and is needed ... NOW.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:07 am 
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BlueRob wrote:


I really think we need Garlett in the forward line NOW. He has been much more impressive than Yarran ... and gives us extra bite. Like many other people I reckon that this is our biggest weakness ... more avenues to goal ... I reckon its the number one priority. Not strengthening our back pocket/tagger resources. We have Army/Brown/Anderson/Bannister and even Bentick for that role. I want Carlton to prioritize needs. Garlett should be playing seniors and is needed ... NOW.



Garlett has played a few halves of pre season games and is very, very light in the body. It's all well that he looks the goods playing half a game of half paced footy, but there was a reason that Yarran was picked in the first round of the draft and Garlett in the rookie draft considering that they both played together before getting drafted.

If we were to elevate him to play 100+ mins of the real stuff, he would be battered and bruised and needing a rest before round 12. Better to give him half a season in the ants to season his body a little and then if his form warrants it, elevate him after round 12.

We have recruited Yarran as the second dangerous forward position and perhaps we should show a little faith in hughes and not judge him until he has played at least 6-8 games.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:24 am 
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Steve_C7 wrote:
We have recruited Yarran as the second dangerous forward position and perhaps we should show a little faith in hughes and not judge him until he has played at least 6-8 games.


How about until he's played 50 games?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:27 am 
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AK43 wrote:
Steve_C7 wrote:
We have recruited Yarran as the second dangerous forward position and perhaps we should show a little faith in hughes and not judge him until he has played at least 6-8 games.


How about until he's played 50 games?

Your kidding me, the EXPERTS on here can see how crap or good players are after 1 game. 6-8 games sounds fair enough :roll:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:34 am 
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BlueRob wrote:
Regardless of all the hype ... I don't think Joseph did such an amazing job on Ablett. It was ok .. but just ok. Don't believe this bloke is going to be the answer for us ... just like i don't believe Bentick will be needed in the midfield. Both brown and Army have really shown something over last year and in MY OPINION will in the long run be MUCH better options. Brown is tough .. skills are not bad ... Army is a great tackler, never gives up .. has improved his disposal and can run like the wind.

I really think we need Garlett in the forward line NOW. He has been much more impressive than Yarran ... and gives us extra bite. Like many other people I reckon that this is our biggest weakness ... more avenues to goal ... I reckon its the number one priority. Not strengthening our back pocket/tagger resources. We have Army/Brown/Anderson/Bannister and even Bentick for that role. I want Carlton to prioritize needs. Garlett should be playing seniors and is needed ... NOW.


I agree with your views on Garlett however, your evaluation of AJ is very harsh IMO.
He did "ok" on Ablett but who in the AFL has done better than "OK"?

His roles on Harvey and Rioli the previous 2 games were very good which tells me he has good consistency and excellent concentration.
Sure Banno and a couple of others have completed shut down jobs but they're just as likely to get cleaned up the following week.
AJ offers good concentration, good pace and greater scope for improvement.
Browne will be quality IMO, great composure and skills but he's a different type of player to Joseph.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:13 am 
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teagueyubeauty wrote:
AK43 wrote:
Steve_C7 wrote:
We have recruited Yarran as the second dangerous forward position and perhaps we should show a little faith in hughes and not judge him until he has played at least 6-8 games.


How about until he's played 50 games?

Your kidding me, the EXPERTS on here can see how crap or good players are after 1 game. 6-8 games sounds fair enough :roll:


Refer to the JR thread for proof.

Yarran showed enough for me in the second half of the Geelong game to tell me he is ready. He kicked another 2 against the Dockers so he is warming to his task but still having an influence. Garlett in the wings just means we have some depth in the small forwards roles that we have never had before.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:50 pm 
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teagueyubeauty wrote:
AK43 wrote:
Steve_C7 wrote:
We have recruited Yarran as the second dangerous forward position and perhaps we should show a little faith in hughes and not judge him until he has played at least 6-8 games.


How about until he's played 50 games?

Your kidding me, the EXPERTS on here can see how crap or good players are after 1 game. 6-8 games sounds fair enough :roll:


The comment was regarding whether we promote Garlett from the rookie list, not whether Yarran can play or not. Some players take time to adjust to the pace of the game and feel comfortable in the new surrounds, it would appear that Garlett has settled in a bit quicker than Yarran and if he is struggling with the pace of the game, then we should promote Garlett for that position and let Yarran run around in the ants without the pressure of having to live up to everyones expectations.

I think that Yarran should be given 6-8 weeks regardless of form to settle in the position knowing that all he has to do is play his natural game and that he doesn't have to get 30 possies and kick 4 goals a game to keep his spot, but if he stuggles at the pace and intensity of the game, then he is better served to go back to the ants and ease his way into the seniors based on form and with confidence of his abilities.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:57 pm 
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Team balance should dictate this decision, and in Betts and Yarran (who kicked 2 the other day) we already have enough small forwards.

Joseph gives us something we don't have, as does Jacobs.

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If Joseph is picked he will last 3 weeks max and won't be seen of again ... sorry ... but he just does not impress me like brown/army.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:05 pm 
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BlueRob wrote:
If Joseph is picked he will last 3 weeks max and won't be seen of again ... sorry ... but he just does not impress me like brown/army.



Thanks for that.... and on that note... what will i wear tomorrow???
How many kids will i have?
Boys or girls?
How long will i live?
Will the recession be a 'V' recession or a 'U' recession.
Should i invest in gold?
When will the stock market bottom out?

Im not going to thank you cos i know you know i didnt have to say it to you.... you just know.......

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baz_baz wrote:
The rookie situation is symptematic of the club becomming more professional in the way they recruit, develop and promote. I can't believe that the club would promise a recruit anything about promotion. They could possibly say if your form warrants it there is a place for you but that falls well short of a garanteed place.

Needs to be Jacobs and Joseph for mine. Garlett in round 12. Jacobs because of his pre season form and development in the role. Joseph because he adds pace and a tagging option that puts pressure on Bentick, Bannister and the other taging options. His role in the 4 games so far ( 2 intra and 2 Nab) has been excellent


So who was right then :clap: :thanks: :razz: :smoking: :thumbsup: :lol: :grin: :smile: :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:21 pm 
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Well done baz_baz. Except for the bit about Bentick being a tagging option. Were you serious?

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Ando the Wonderkid wrote:
Well done baz_baz. Except for the bit about Bentick being a tagging option. Were you serious?


yeah I was serious Ando. IMO Bentick is the best in close tagging option for the likes of mitchell, cross, bartell and company in the square and at ball ups. He has the strengh and the "see it get it" mentality to cut those heavier type on ballers out of the game. Just my opinion of course. And certainly NOT in a run with role around the ground.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:38 pm 
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baz_baz wrote:
Ando the Wonderkid wrote:
Well done baz_baz. Except for the bit about Bentick being a tagging option. Were you serious?


yeah I was serious Ando. IMO Bentick is the best in close tagging option for the likes of mitchell, cross, bartell and company in the square and at ball ups. He has the strengh and the "see it get it" mentality to cut those heavier type on ballers out of the game. Just my opinion of course. And certainly NOT in a run with role around the ground.


Mitchell annihilated Bentick at all opportunities.

But I still hate Hawthorn for getting the pick they got Mitchell with from Freo as part of the Croad trade.

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