To be honest I couldn't careless if we finish last instead of second last. Great clubs say we've won so many premierships and that's the only barometer there is. You don't hear Collingwood, Essendon* or in the past Carlton supporters say we've won this many premierships and this many wooden spoons, you say we've won this many premierships, full stop. This idea that Carlton's record could now be sixteen premierships and two wooden spoons is absolute crap, because counting wooden spoons in your record is a barometer introduced by the likes of St. Kilda supporters in general and in the media because their club needs something to measure themselves against us. If you buy into this we've won this many premierships and 'lost' this many wooden spoons, you have to realise your not upholding the Carlton 'dignity', but absorbing the maliase of AFL equality. Protecting our wooden spoon record has got nothing to do with the modern Carlton I know, it's about not coming to terms with the AFL system that favours being the biggest loser.
Carlton have always had a winning culture and dignity, look getting Pagan to the club was Elliot's last attempt to maintain this character. And the current board are holding onto Pagan like there's no tomorrow because without him at the helm the media would be swirling around us like they did when we got our last wooden spoon and our club's brand would be even further tarnished. People need to realise you hold onto your pride in private and in the public reality of a football comp. like the AFL public upholding of dignity is transitional. That's what a wooden spoon is, transitional. Maguire made a transition of business fundamentals at Collingwood like a swooping eagle, our club is still struggling to do so, everyone needs to learn to keep you dignity in your hip pocket for five years.
Now half of you are probably sick to death of me, to this years draft, people need to get educated, and BlueMark you need to come on board here because it's a socialist approach, and if you're extremely intelligent about it, it's hardcore communism.
Pick one IS Marc Murphy, if here's not there we have to accept it, but if he is bang, we can expect a captain of our club. In the U18 Championships, the team he captained VIC Metro were widely expected to come third or fourth out of four teams but won every game and the comp. by playing with a fantastic spirit. He was All-Australian and named best player in the comp, as well as being the winning captain. This is the invaluable asset we need at our club.
Pick two is Xavier Ellis. Great younger age player who has a lot of potential, but is considered a class below Murphy.
Pick three is where the debate comes in, of course there are decent players, there are players who 'COULD' be match winners but the class drop is further significant.
So where do supporters want to be in this year's draft

As Synbad, Phoenix and I try to communicate, it really is get pick one and a shot at leader as proven as a leader can be at his age or hang onto your pride and join the lottery of talent identification with the other fifteen clubs. These are the circumstances of this year's draft, seek other opinions, i doubt you'll find them.
Next year's draft is a different matter. If the players available next year were available this year, seven most likely eight of them would be in the top ten of this year's draft. One or two of them may have leadership qualities, none are guaranteed to have.
These are the circumstances of the next two drafts, if we happen to lose on Saturday and finish last this year, please absorb them and take comfort.