The early statue catches the brain...

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Fair points DUC.

The basis for my post is there has been a lot of talk about our depth and we need it to step up this year. But if we list them 1-46 as above to me we really fall away past our top 20 odd. To me based on our top 10-15 we could easily be in the top 4. Yes there is some potential but will our bottom 20 step up and add support when we need it? A couple of injuries and we could be in trouble

Fair enough not to include the new guys. Have to agree with most of it. What will be interesting is to reassess at the end of the year. IMO for us to be a finals side a couple of them need to step up into our top 25 by years end.

Stevo at 8?
Last year you said-




For the record, my rankings are-

1. Judd
2. Fevola
3. Simpson
4. Stevens
5. Murphy
6. Gibbs
7. Kruezer
8. Jamison
9. Waite
10. Walker
11. Houlihan
12. Thornton
13. Bower
14. Grigg
15. Betts
16. Scotland
17. Hadley
18. Carrazzo
19. Browne
20. Fisher
21. Robinson
22. Garlett
23. Hampson
24. Armfield
25. Yarran
26. Wiggins
27. Johnson
28. Cloke
29. Warnock
30. Russell
31. Joseph
32. O'hAilpin
33. Jacobs
34. Hartlett
35. Bentick
36. Austin
37. Bentley
38. Bannister
39. Anderson
40. Pfieffer
41. Edwards
42. Ellard
43. O’Keeffe
44. Stanton
45. Tiller
46. Hill

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

?? And I stick by it, but as we stand here today that is where I rank him on the list. Mind you it is a poor reflection of our list IMO.

I could easily argue how you could put Jamo ahead of Walker or Waite, or Simpson ahead of Gibbs, or Bentley ahead of Pfieffer, or Hartlett ahead of Austin or Anderson which I believe is ridiculous but I wont. Everyone is entitled to there own opinion. At least it is nice to see you actually form an independent opinion instead of basic criticism. Well done!

There's an astute commentator from out west...must be a Carltonian.

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Had to chuckle over that...thanks

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If the objective is to highlight an inadequacy in depth, the I would disagree unless we had:

Warnock, Hammer and Kreuzer injured at the same time.
Judd, Murphy and Simmo injured at the same time.
jamison and Waite injured at the same time.
Fevola, Betts and Kreuzer all injured at the same time

or even...

who we have out for tonights game.

But that problem would apply to all teams.

Take Scarlett and Harley simultaneously.
Take out Ablett and Bartel simultaneously
Take out Blake period!

I think CJ69's list actually shows adequate depth when one takes into consideration his 4 forwards, 8 midfielders and 6 man defense into consideration and we only have one key injury in each area...we will be competitive in 2009.

I'll have a think a bout the list. Very difficult exercise. Like DUC highlighted, there's potential and current form and then there's 2008 form. On current form, I couldn't agree with Scotalnd; the bloke can't even run yet, and we don't know if he's going to return the same either.

Why has Houla had each hip operated on within a fortnight, and Scotalnad has had one hip done and Houla is up and running, and never felt better, and scotaland is struggling? The same surgeon did the job on both.

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Just did it. Bloody horrible exercise. Prefer the positional chart than order 1-46.

Firstly, no one should negatively criticise other posters' opinions. This is a very difficult exercise. Well done to all those who have attempted this (WARNING: awful exercise)

I tried to consider positonal value, (form current and 2008 form), and potential to do the uncanny as opposed to good average player.

For me it starts from the middle ruck, mids followed by KP. Mainly looking at ruck/ mid/ fwd/ back and some specialists. Mids can be played fwd and back flank positions. KP's can play flans against tall opponents.

Don't hold this list against me after tonight's game.

All positions are subject to change due to our 'best of breed and technological advantage policy' committment to deliver the best available product to market at the time.

Any admissions today cannot be held against me in future and by no means do my estimates attempt to degrade or devalue any player on the CFC list...I just wish 2nds players wore CFC jumpers.

1. Judd (mid)
2.Fevola (FF)
3. Kreuzer (ruck fwd)
4. Simpson (mid)
5, Murphy (mid)
6. Gibbs (mid)
7. Waite (KP)
8. Walker (mid)
9. Stevens (mid)
10. Jamison (KP)
11. Warnock (1st ruck)
12. Bower (KP)
13. Houlihan (mid)
14. Hadley (mid)
15. Scotland (mid) fingers crossed.
16. Hampson (ruck fwd)
17. O'hAlpin (back gorillas)
18. Thornton (KP)
19. Betts (fwd mid)
20. Carrazzo (mid)
21. Robinson (fwd mid)
22. Grigg (mid)
23. Armfield (mid BP)
24. Yarran (fwd)...should step up
25. Fisher (fwd)...marker
26. Garlett (fwd) ...should step up
27. Johnson (mid)...kicker
28.Russell (mid)
29. Browne (mid BP)
30 Bannister (mid)
31. Wiggins (fwd)
32. Austin (KP)
33. Jacobs (ruck)
34. Cloke (fwd)
35. Hartlett (fwd)...potential to be in first 22.
36. Anderson (mid)
37. Bentick (mid)...fallen in my ratings...tough nut.
38. Joseph (mid
39. Ellard (mid)
40. O'Keefe (back)
41. Stanton (fwd)
42. Pfieffer (mid)...mmmm
43. Edwards (fwd)...mmmmm
44. Hill (mid)
45. Bentley (mid)
46. Tiller (fwd)...baby

Never want to do that again....bloody hard exercise...whilst players this week have fallen down the top 40 chart (Fisher and Bentick), they may bounce back due to unforeseen circumstances. Fisher lucky to be in front od Garlett based on their recent outings.

Good luck.

Thank you for also seeing the light to those who think I'm correct. Impossible to agree over 46 positions.

The players have run out on the ground for their warm ups.

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1. Judd
2. Fevola
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3. Gibbs
4. Murphy
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5. Waite
6. Walker
7. Stevens
8. Houlihan
9. Jamison
10. Simpson
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11. Carrazzo
12. Grigg
13. Thornton
14. Bower
15. Scotland
16. Cloke
17. Kruezer
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18. Betts
19. Fisher
20. Robinson
21. Bentick
22. Armfield
23. Wiggins
24. Russell
25. Hadley
26. Johnson
27. Warnock
28. Hampson
29. O'Hailpin
30. Yarran
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31. Bannister
32. Jacobs
33. Browne
34. Pfieffer
35. Anderson
36. Austin
37. Hartlett
38. Edwards
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don't know much about the rest but just for the purpose of the exercise:
39. Garlett
40. Bentley
41. Ellard
42. Joseph
43. O’Keeffe
44. Stanton
45. Hill
46. Tiller

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This Fisher bashing is an absolute joke. In our best 22 full stop. Probably one of the best contested marks in the league and will kick 40+ goals this year....