That Other Great War: Carlton v Collingwood

The Blueseum · **Joined:** Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:02 am **Posts:** 1623

It has been on the boil for over 100 years. Born in the first decades of the VFL, and fanned into flames during the Great Depression and two world wars, it has broken marriages, split life-long friendships and started riots. It has been a focus of every level of Australian society - from Prime Ministers to pensioners, from Archbishops to barmaids. And it has been typified by some of the most controversial and passionate games of Australian football ever played. It is Carlton versus Collingwood – still the greatest and most enduring rivalry in Australian sport.

http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-read_artic ... ticleId=83

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AGRO · **Posted:** Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:09 am

Fantastic article and dug up some stuff that I didnt even know about.

Encapsulates the hatred, dare I say borne of mutual grudging respect.

The part I like is no matter how bad we are going we have still managed to maintain nearly a 50/50 win loss ratio. :wink:

bluehammer · **Posted:** Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:53 am

Take note AFL.

You cannot manufacture this stuff.

You can't create blockbusters.

You can't 'tell' fans that 'this is a rivalry round'.

You can't create 'passion' on the gold coast or west sydney if none exists.

This is real, proper hatred. And as Agro said, a tinge of respect for the relevance and necessity of two sides with a great history. Well, one side with 100 years of great history and one with 50 years of the same :-P

Great article.

Siegfried · **Joined:** Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:30 pm **Posts:** 2864

bluehammer wrote:

Take note AFL.

You cannot manufacture this stuff.

You can't create blockbusters.

You can't 'tell' fans that 'this is a rivalry round'.

You can't create 'passion' on the gold coast or west sydney if none exists.

This is real, proper hatred. And as Agro said, a tinge of respect for the relevance and necessity of two sides with a great history. Well, one side with 100 years of great history and one with 50 years of the same :-P

Great article.

What he said.

The_Cranium · **Posted:** Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:26 pm

terrific article. i really hope we get to play them in a final when we're back in there. the atmosphere would be incredible. 1988 was the last time from memory. out at waverley? think thats the one. anyways, back to original point, great article

The Blueseum · **Joined:** Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:02 am **Posts:** 1623

The_Cranium wrote:

terrific article. i really hope we get to play them in a final when we're back in there. the atmosphere would be incredible. 1988 was the last time from memory. out at waverley? think thats the one. anyways, back to original point, great article

Well, yes, 2010 would be nice for another Carlton v Collingwood Grand Final:

http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-index.php?page=2010

It would mark a whole century since they've beaten us in one.

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kezza · **Joined:** Thu May 11, 2006 6:11 pm **Posts:** 15009

Even through our darkest 7 years in history we still managed to beat the scum 6 times.

TheBluesMuse · **Joined:** Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:27 pm **Posts:** 5270

This is what i'm talking about!

When I was growing up it wasn't StKilda it wasn't Essendon* it was those Collingwood scum! It wasn't untill I found TC that I worked out I was supposed to hate Essendon* and StKilda.....

I'd get around singing that altered Collingwood song, sticking it up anyone at School who barracked for them...man i'd start on the poor souls and never stop.....I was a typical Carlton kid who had arrogance bursting out of me and no one copped it like those poor Collingwood supporters...

To hate Collingwood was bred into me just like all my other values in life...

Great article!

Donstuie · **Posted:** Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:43 pm

I'm sorry...that OTHER great war? There is no OTHER great war :evil:

HELLAS BLUE · **Posted:** Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:16 pm

Top read that!!!

AGRO · **Posted:** Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:09 pm

The earliest childhood memory of my father swearing is with Collingwood in the same sentence: "Collingwood, the bastards!!!"

Kouta · **Posted:** Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:49 pm

Rubbed out for a year? :shock:

Dirty sniper.

Jarusa · **Joined:** Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:00 am **Posts:** 23123

BlueIce wrote:

Rubbed out for a year? :shock:

Dirty sniper.

Bad apple that one (but good for whacking a magpie).

Apples don't fall far from the tree. :wink:

blueycarlton · **Posted:** Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:08 am

Yes, fantastic, a great read,
but go to the bottom of the second page and read
"When Carlton and Collingwood were friends"
Really puts that article into perspective.

bondiblue · **Posted:** Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:06 am

TheBluesMuse wrote:

This is what i'm talking about!

When I was growing up it wasn't StKilda it wasn't Essendon* it was those Collingwood scum! It wasn't untill I found TC that I worked out I was supposed to hate Essendon* and StKilda.....

I'd get around singing that altered Collingwood song, sticking it up anyone at School who barracked for them...man i'd start on the poor souls and never stop.....I was a typical Carlton kid who had arrogance bursting out of me and no one copped it like those poor Collingwood supporters...

To hate Collingwood was bred into me just like all my other values in life...

Great article!

Same here BM.

Fantastic read. Well done. Many Thanks.

Blue Sombrero · **Posted:** Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:15 am

Terrific stuff.
I reckon we could write a similar article about Richmond!

Warby · **Posted:** Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:37 pm

I think we should try to get this 2 page article into the Blueseum too.....from "Warby's Scrapbook" in January this year; and copied from a 1993 Article in 'The Sun".

"Collingwood...We Hate the Bastards" ..... a bit over half way down the page.

http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB2/vi ... &start=420

budzy · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:17 am **Posts:** 8128

http://www.joffasfrontpage.com/23.html

:wink:

The Blueseum · **Joined:** Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:02 am **Posts:** 1623

For anyone who needs a refresher on the war that is Carlton v Collingwood...:

http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-read_artic ... ticleId=83

The links should take you to our 5-1 Grand Final record over the Pies :thumbsup:

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Warby · **Posted:** Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:16 pm

Bring it on!......a great rivalry.

That Other Great War: Carlton v Collingwood

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