Been some confusion about the 100M penalty given away on the weekend. Was talking to someone today who was on the fence near the umpire and Fev when the 50 metres was awarded.

Apparently the order of events was this.

Umpire up the ground awards a 50 metre against Grigg.

Umpire near Fev does not hear this and calls Port player to play on.

Fev strips ball from Port player.

Umpire realises that original 50 was called against Grigg, then awards 50 metres against Fev.

Was told that everyone in that section of the crowd heard the play on call clearly and the reaction from the crowd was as you would expect.

Disgraceful from the umpire involved.

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Those last 5 minutes of the quater were almost surreal. Really didn't know what was going on. On the replay it looks to me as if Fev thinks the ump has turned it over and given us a free kick.

I hope the Club is going to have some serious "meetings" with the umpiring department at the AFL over the off-season. The lack of protection we seem to get compared to other teams is shocking.

The umpiring is utterly amateurish and beyond disgraceful, and every time they realise they make a mistake, they compound it by trying to cover it up with some dodgy decision they pull out of their arses.

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Well that is typical of the disgraceful vindictively incompetent umpiring exhibited when Brendan Fevola is involved. Typical of the small minded, penis envying, slimy little bastards who flounce around masquerading as the arbiters of fairness and calling it as they see it.





If Fevola had been paid even 25% of all the disputed free kicks he should have been paid this season - he would have passed 100 goals in about round 15.

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why was there a port player on the ground?

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

also whats with the 50 against grigg anyway?

since when do 50's get given off the ball?

let alone halfway down the ground away from the play

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I think it was best summed up by HG Nelson, probably 10 years ago or more when he said "The rules of AFL exist only in the mind of the umpire at that specific point in time" or words to that effect.

The worry is that he was kidding when he said it, but each season passing makes it seem like a prophesy.

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They need to be told that they are not the stars of the show, they are just there to help the players play the game.

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Better check your source as we were playing North

Not exactly what audio on the replay shows. Ump appears to be signalling play on when Fev is 20m away, so Fev deviates from heading towards the mark, towards Harding. As he approaches Harding we hear clear as day ump say "Wait wait wait wait" Fev looks back to him, then keeps going ".. 50m, it's 50m" .. Fev then reaches for the ball, apparently confused, but chose to grab the ball rather than do what the ump said. Ump immediately says "No No ... and another 50 too, you knocked the ball out of his hand it's 2 50s".

A harsh call, probably, but shit he's been round long enough to know that you have to listen to them cos they are savage on "time wasting" when you don't listen to them, even if accidental.

turn it up headplant.... had it been any other player, you would have joined the chorus saying it was shithouse umpiring.

it was an absolutely pathetic display of adjudication. no-one on the @#$%&! ground knew what was going on. it should have been the initial 50 and then get on with the game. for christ's sake show some common @#$%&! sense. the ridiculous fickleness of these clowns is a blight on the game.

the umpiring was bordering on cheating all day. history will say it didn't impact the result in the end, but it kept them in it in the first quarter and certainly gave a helping hand in the 2nd.

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From the match report on afl.com.au

Turn it up? I'm just saying what the replay showed happened. I also noticed in Q1 that we received a 50m penalty against Kangas which was very harsh, when Kanga player played on instead of checking who the free was for.

In this case, the events were exactly as I described .... I'm not particularly critical of Fev having seen the replay, but that IS exactly what happened and a more sensible player would have used his own common sense, listened to the umpire as there was no urgency involved at the time, and done what the ump said. These are the discipline things which make good players better. I would be certain Judd would not have done what Fev did. Discipline is not one of Fev's strong points, unfortunately that's the way he is built.

But I lay the blame for this entirely at the seat of Gieschen, who is a total idiot and has no idea about how to improve the relationship between players and umps .. instead he has them acting like untouchable demi Gods.

And read what I said ... I did say probably a harsh call, but you too should have observed by now that umps indeed usually are very harsh when players don't hear or don't listen, irrespective of whether deliberate or not. They are SUPPOSED to listen, according to Gieschen.

Yep I saw that happen....was the worst bit of umpiring in ages.

Looking at the MVP section I think Fevola's game has been underrated due to this incident. I think he was our best player.

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That sounds like it was what happend.
Looking at it, Fev looked really confused. He can be an idiot at times, but he is not silly enough to do that if there has atready been a free kick paid.
He went to take the ball off the other player, not knock it out of his hands.

There is a thing called common sense, but a lot of these umpires want to show they are in charge. The good umpires use common sense, and
that is why they are good umpires.


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How does Fevs 'free kicks against' and '50m penalties' compare to his team mates?

I don't know if anyone at the ground, including all the players and all the umpires knew what was going on at the time. It was a complete shambles.

As per usual the umpires were playing with themselves, and I agree: no-one in the crowd had any idea what was going on.

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Be gone with your indisputable facts Headplant.
You're throwing cold water on our hysteria.

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I think Grigg gave away a free kick in the middle of the ground, Fev gave away a 50m penalty so that penalty takes place from where Grigg gave away the free kick.

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