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Good to see Saddo still in the side, wasn't horrible last week.

I wouldn't mind knowing if the people calling for him to be dropped also think that young kids should get at least a couple of weeks in the team to prove themselves. After playing in the Ants all year chances are that his first game back at AFL level was always going to be rusty.

Personally i don't think Saddos contract will be renewed whenever he comes out of contract but while hes still contracted and while were still in the race for finals i think the MC should be selecting the side they think will give us the best chance of winning and i have heaps of faith in them and think they know what they're doing.

Best of luck Saddo!


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I would be very surprised to see Eddie play for the 'Ants. I expect he's still not 100%.
With that in mind I have no problem with not changing a winning side. The MC has shown their predeliction for keeping a settled side all year, especially after a win.


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I would be very surprised to see Eddie play for the 'Ants. I expect he's still not 100%.
With that in mind I have no problem with not changing a winning side. The MC has shown their predeliction for keeping a settled side all year, especially after a win.


well it certainly hasn't been working as we've only won consecutive games twice this whole year.

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true_blue3 wrote:
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I would be very surprised to see Eddie play for the 'Ants. I expect he's still not 100%.
With that in mind I have no problem with not changing a winning side. The MC has shown their predeliction for keeping a settled side all year, especially after a win.


well it certainly hasn't been working as we've only won consecutive games twice this whole year.


As opposed to the many consecutive games we've won in recent years :wink:

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betts will not play in the ants must still be sore. great to see walks kicking goals, may have found a new position for him. will be watching the ants on tv tommorrow and then off to the dome on sunday. blue weekend fantastic!!! did anyone see hadley last week? and if so did he move ok? great to see hammer starting in the ruck.


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I was down at training today and Eddie did not take part in any of the drills with the main training group. He was practicing handballs with other injured players Ackland, Benjamin, Hartlett.

Go Blues !


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ryan2000 wrote:
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Too many missed shots at goal.


If that is the criteria then Fisher wouldn't get a game all year.

PLEASE DROP FISHER!!! PLEASE!


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Do you actually know the evidence to back up what you're saying?

Fisher has kicked 20 goals 21 behinds, 48%..... Our 3rd Highest goal kicker
Russel has kicked 2 goals 12 behinds, 14%...... shithouse

Both from 18 games. Know what your talking about before calling for players to be dropped :wink:


Yeah, interesting one that. I remember hearing a commentator (cannot remember who it was) 2 weeks ago saying 'i've been really impressed with Jordan Russell up forward this year.' ........... :shock:

WTF?

Fisher, whilst is an AWESOME mark has really been dissapointing. He should have really kicked 30+ goals as most of the ones his missed have been dead set in front!

So for me, both have been dissapointing. Especially Fisher's around the ground efforts!


So, the other way of looking at it is there is plenty of upside to Fisher, which seems good to me.


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jake_h03 wrote:
Slyuss wrote:
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Too many missed shots at goal.


If that is the criteria then Fisher wouldn't get a game all year.

PLEASE DROP FISHER!!! PLEASE!


:roll: :roll: :roll:
Do you actually know the evidence to back up what you're saying?

Fisher has kicked 20 goals 21 behinds, 48%..... Our 3rd Highest goal kicker
Russel has kicked 2 goals 12 behinds, 14%...... shithouse

Both from 18 games. Know what your talking about before calling for players to be dropped :wink:


I wouldn't say that either of those figures look impressive. Combine that with our overall efficency and avenues to goal and it is an area we need to greatly improve!


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sinbagger wrote:
ryan2000 wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
Slyuss wrote:
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Too many missed shots at goal.


If that is the criteria then Fisher wouldn't get a game all year.

PLEASE DROP FISHER!!! PLEASE!


:roll: :roll: :roll:
Do you actually know the evidence to back up what you're saying?

Fisher has kicked 20 goals 21 behinds, 48%..... Our 3rd Highest goal kicker
Russel has kicked 2 goals 12 behinds, 14%...... shithouse

Both from 18 games. Know what your talking about before calling for players to be dropped :wink:


Yeah, interesting one that. I remember hearing a commentator (cannot remember who it was) 2 weeks ago saying 'i've been really impressed with Jordan Russell up forward this year.' ........... :shock:

WTF?

Fisher, whilst is an AWESOME mark has really been dissapointing. He should have really kicked 30+ goals as most of the ones his missed have been dead set in front!

So for me, both have been dissapointing. Especially Fisher's around the ground efforts!


So, the other way of looking at it is there is plenty of upside to Fisher, which seems good to me.


Ryan, I absolutely agree that Fisher has been disappointing. He should be kicking 40 odd goals a year. And he IS good enough to do that. I honestly believe he is having a bit of a confidence issue. Every time he gets a shot for goal it seems as though he's too worried about missing.

The thing is though, I always remember him being a fairly reliable shot for goal before this year (obviously no more than 40 out) I think if we play Kreuzer up there with Fev, Fisher can be a very handy 3rd forward. We should be looking to improve Fish who has shown a lot of potential in his first 5 or so years rather than calling for his head.

Either way, my intial post was simply regarding accuracy at goal. Slyuss implied that Fisher was a worse shot than Russel... the stats speak for themselves

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jake_h03 wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
ryan2000 wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
Slyuss wrote:
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Too many missed shots at goal.


If that is the criteria then Fisher wouldn't get a game all year.

PLEASE DROP FISHER!!! PLEASE!


:roll: :roll: :roll:
Do you actually know the evidence to back up what you're saying?

Fisher has kicked 20 goals 21 behinds, 48%..... Our 3rd Highest goal kicker
Russel has kicked 2 goals 12 behinds, 14%...... shithouse

Both from 18 games. Know what your talking about before calling for players to be dropped :wink:


Yeah, interesting one that. I remember hearing a commentator (cannot remember who it was) 2 weeks ago saying 'i've been really impressed with Jordan Russell up forward this year.' ........... :shock:

WTF?

Fisher, whilst is an AWESOME mark has really been dissapointing. He should have really kicked 30+ goals as most of the ones his missed have been dead set in front!

So for me, both have been dissapointing. Especially Fisher's around the ground efforts!


So, the other way of looking at it is there is plenty of upside to Fisher, which seems good to me.


Ryan, I absolutely agree that Fisher has been disappointing. He should be kicking 40 odd goals a year. And he IS good enough to do that. I honestly believe he is having a bit of a confidence issue. Every time he gets a shot for goal it seems as though he's too worried about missing.

The thing is though, I always remember him being a fairly reliable shot for goal before this year (obviously no more than 40 out) I think if we play Kreuzer up there with Fev, Fisher can be a very handy 3rd forward. We should be looking to improve Fish who has shown a lot of potential in his first 5 or so years rather than calling for his head.

Either way, my intial post was simply regarding accuracy at goal. Slyuss implied that Fisher was a worse shot than Russel... the stats speak for themselves


Fisher is being found out in the modern game. More possesion and control of the ball. A forward in this type of football needs to be the complete package, good mark, kick, good ground skills, quick to react and move to position and be very good defensively. Unfortunately I think Fishers injuries (especially knee) have robbed him of the ability to contribute in some of those areas.

He was drafted late by us because others clubs were concerned with his lack of speed and skills below the knees. They have become more evident this year.

Fisher was okay in a bad side that got the ball in quick and long and he could use his marking skills. We as supporters sometimes tend to hang on to little things especially when we are losing (Maybe Russell fits that as well).

Unfortunately I think his time is passing him quickly. If you watch him at training he gives everything and works hard to get the most out of himself. Sometimes we have to accept they are not up to it.

Compare the difference when Walker went forward last week.


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Exactly. That's why he can't get a game this year.


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we need to win this week in order to avoid equalling our worst run of losses (6) against the roos.

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Exactly. That's why he can't get a game this year.


Moreover it shows the lack of depth in our list. A lot of big decisions will be made on these players at the end of the year as it will be our last chance for many years to get more top class kids to the club!


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We must have a sensational coach. No depth, a plethora of players not up to it and nine wins. :shock:


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Exactly. That's why he can't get a game this year.


Ratten and the MC obviously don't rate the role he's playing.

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We must have a sensational coach. No depth, a plethora of players not up to it and nine wins. :shock:


We do have a very good coach and a plethora of players not up to it but you're right, we have got nine wins!

My comments are based on what I believe it takes to win a premiership which if I remember right takes more than nine wins. :-D


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It only takes one win.


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We must have a sensational coach. No depth, a plethora of players not up to it and nine wins. :shock:


:lol: :lol: :lol: And apparently a poor MC because they keep picking some bloke called JR.

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Cazzesman wrote:
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We must have a sensational coach. No depth, a plethora of players not up to it and nine wins. :shock:


:lol: :lol: :lol: And apparently a poor MC because they keep picking some bloke called JR.

Regards Cazzesman


The MC can only work with what they have got.

As I said before Cazz there isn't much at the moment to push him out! If you think he will be part of a premiership 22 that is your opinion but it isn't mine and that is what I look for.


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It only takes one win.


Even for you verbs I would think that it is obvious that one win won't get you into finals!

Maybe living so close to a Uni isn't rubbing off. Maybe you should get down to teh RE for some mind lubricant. :-D


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