I'm with you club29!

Comparisdons to basketball are extremely simplistic ... we have 3.5 times the number of players on field at any one time.

I don't think trying to hit team mates on their own 30m away can be described as attempting pin-point passing ... yet Simmo and Murph were chief offenders in being unable to do this on Sat, and others here have documented the numerous turnovers and clangers which occurred on Sat. Just 3 or 4 more hits on the chest instead of on the turf or over the head could have won the game.

It takes TIME for players to get used to a new coach with a new game plan.

We can argue over structure, but it's hard to argue that many or perhaps any on this site observing the game can criticise with real knowledge of what instructions are given. We can merely observe what actually happens.

And Mickstar, this is aimed directly at you ... it seems you are implying every slow ball movement is due to Ratten's instructions, which I find highly unlikely ... and also condesceding with regard to Ratts, who it seems to me so far in public statements etc has shown he does have a fair understanding of the modern game.

They want to root Anne Boleyn???

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Giday H,how are you mate....................i'll tell you what H,we have a young side,and if they are not doing exactly what Ratts is telling them,im very worried.
Sorry buddy,but like Warbs,you are missing the point.The footy network reaches far and wide and there is an incredible amount of research done into the style of play of all teams.Every one knows everything about everyone.The half court press is what every club knows what will beat a Brett Ratten coached Carlton.And that is a fact.Im just suggesting the guy gets with it and trys a differant tactic.And there are tactics that are commonly used to counteract this tactic.And so far i have yet to see that.I dont particularly like to see our players continually against a brick wall over and over and............

And as far as our last quarter innacuracie costing us Warbs.............bullshit !if they had of been accurate early they would have buried us.

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Mickstar, if getting players young or old to do exactly what you want is that simple, we should have won zero games based upon your premise.

I think YOU are missing the point.

I am certain that will be addressed over the summer and Mickstar and we will be able to counter it and then they'll find another flaw and we'll work that out until we are strong/fast/skilful enough to take on their plans and win.

Anyone who thinks a new coach comes on board and then they can play all modes is forgetting that it takes all coaches time and it takes time to get the ave age to the right place where you can counter strength with equal strength

Mickstar if you asked a coach how many would answer that the real window lies in terms of ave age/experience of your team?

Ratts will bring this team on (much like Clarkson did) but while young and understanding he had just started with them and has also just started himself - the turn around will not come over night.

At the start of this year I expected bottom for but not so many floggings. Yes we still have weaknesses, we are coming from a long way back, but in most facets we have improved significantly.

The three areas I want us to get better at next yeart are
a) Ruck - well all know this, and I bet you a half court press is easier to inflict on a side without a dominant ruckman than one with.

b) CHF - and I bet you a half court press is easier to inflict on a side without a CHF etc.

c) young bodies - Gibbs and Kruiser are kids. Murph is still a kid. They are great kids but still kids. They will get older and stronger (as will all the other kids) and I bet a half court press is easier against a team of kids etc.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Quit correct Danny.Nice to someone with a bit of logic.Just trying to make a simple and plainly obvious point............

PS........love your poetry.

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............You are absolutally correct Headplant.I am missing your point,Keep trying buddy coz i havent a clue what you are on about.Slow down,take a deep breath,and go about it one step at a time.

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And chop off her head as soon as she has her first bad hair day.

They had 12 players on him

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flooding is destroying the bloody game

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Sorry Mickstar, I'll try not to use such big words next time.

I am sure we can beat this half court press thing if we hit our targets. If we continue to miss them and lose then we will have to get some blokes in that can hit them.

If Micksters of the world see the half court press as a problem then i am sure Ratts does. To say otherwise would be to say you know more about footy than Ratts which i find hard to believe.

As headplant points out, Ratts doesnt go out and tell them to move the ball slowly. He would tell them to hold on to the ball at all costs and only kick to a contest as a last resort. With maturity will come some confidence and the wall of players will soon appear to be made of tissue.

Ratts has to stick with what he believes in. All good coaches do.

and bad ones... .. thought I'd get in before someone else pointed that out c29

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Malthouse, Wallace, Eade and Worsfold don't.

Roos and Craig cut it pretty fine too.

I think Ratten was outcoached in bits yesterday but that doesn't undermine my happiness at how well he has done this year. To give up 6 goals to the tall hack in the pocket isn't acceptable - the Crows isolated this option and Carlton needed to stem that flow in the middle but chose to remain offensive. Some would see that as bad coaching, some would see it as throwing the dice and losing. Recognising (or thinking as a hack football fan) that the Coach made a mistake doesn't have to mean you think he is rubbish.

Look at the Crows list and tell me that Craig isnt a master coach in continually getting them into the finals.

True.

Ratts mention in his sportal interview about 72 clangers or ineffective disposals. I think it can be safely said that it wouldn't matter who the Coach was on the day. If a team gives up the ball that many times there's not much a coach can do during the game.

Last week our second half disposal was very good and won us the game. This week our woeful disposal cost us the game. That's the facts of the matter, not whether Ratts was out-coached or not. The Crows flooding didn't prevent us from having ample shots on goal to win the game.

If we had won the game this thread wouldn't exist.

Regards Cazzesman

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Yeah,

but if we had have won Cazz then some of the posters on this site wouldn't even have got out of bed

Everyone knows how to beat a Brett Ratten Coached Carlton.................... .....

I could've sworn we had won EIGHT games this Season.......

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Our wins would have all come against sides who are tanking though Warby. Get with the program!