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A little balance if I may....

Fevola made a general (and in 2008, factually incorrect) statement about an opposition team's particular playing style. Rocket was merely refuting this in the context of our 2008 season (this bit was predictably not highlighted in the papers), and also (somewhat unneccesarily) highligthed the lack of respect that Fevola (the media performer) commands in the wider football community....Fev, the court jester and fool, is his own media creation, and it really goes without saying that he has little respect in the football community outside of his prodigious ability on the park. Ratts rightly was not happy that Fev opened his gob without thinking and without provocation and said as much.

On Sunday night, Fev was the recipient of awesome service and hard work up the field from Judd/Stevens/Gibbs/Murphy etc. I reckon, even with my gammy right knee and poor condition, I could have a taken some of those dolly's on the lead lace out in the 2nd half. In his 10 year career, this was the first time Fevola managed to get a kick against us, and predictably he could not help himself and piped up in the media. His inability to restrain himself with a microphone in front of him is sadly the norm for Fev.

How accountable was Fev with his piss-weak half-arsed 'chase' on Lake just before half-time which cost his team a goal on the half-time siren? Some of his midfield cohorts were probably puking blood at half time with the amount of work they were doing for their team.

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Fair enough sedat,

but I think any coach who doesn't try to tag Judd and Stevens out of the game is having a lend of his club.

Judd got the most handball receives of his entire career, because Rocket decided to play Cooney off him and may the best man cause the most damage.

Not that I'm complaining: I'd happily take those tactics every single week.


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Fair enough sedat,

but I think any coach who doesn't try to tag Judd and Stevens out of the game is having a lend of his club.

Judd got the most handball receives of his entire career, because Rocket decided to play Cooney off him and may the best man cause the most damage.

Not that I'm complaining: I'd happily take those tactics every single week.

Rocket didn't have one of his better days in the coaches box on Sunday night to be frank. Morris has owned Fev for the last 3 years and I thought he was a certainty to take him again. Also the midfield match-ups weren't right, with Judd especially and Stevens as well given too much latitide on the night. It looked worse because we ran out of legs late in the match, but we have managed to beat harcore one-on-one midfields of the calibre of Hawthorn, Sydney and St Kilda (twice) comfortably this season, so I hope the last 2 weeks are a blip on the radar in terms of our midfield running capacity.

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A little balance if I may....

Fevola made a general (and in 2008, factually incorrect) statement about an opposition team's particular playing style. Rocket was merely refuting this in the context of our 2008 season (this bit was predictably not highlighted in the papers), and also (somewhat unneccesarily) highligthed the lack of respect that Fevola (the media performer) commands in the wider football community....Fev, the court jester and fool, is his own media creation, and it really goes without saying that he has little respect in the football community outside of his prodigious ability on the park. Ratts rightly was not happy that Fev opened his gob without thinking and without provocation and said as much.

On Sunday night, Fev was the recipient of awesome service and hard work up the field from Judd/Stevens/Gibbs/Murphy etc. I reckon, even with my gammy right knee and poor condition, I could have a taken some of those dolly's on the lead lace out in the 2nd half. In his 10 year career, this was the first time Fevola managed to get a kick against us, and predictably he could not help himself and piped up in the media. His inability to restrain himself with a microphone in front of him is sadly the norm for Fev.

How accountable was Fev with his piss-weak half-arsed 'chase' on Lake just before half-time which cost his team a goal on the half-time siren? Some of his midfield cohorts were probably puking blood at half time with the amount of work they were doing for their team.



Fair enough but you would hardly say the Bulldogs were accountable....Cross aside.....eg Aker...didnt chase, no second efforts, ditto Cooney, ditto Gia, ...some of those lace out passes were easily taken because Lake gave it away when Fev burned him off.
A couple of Lakes mates could have filled the holes where Fev was leading but didnt seem too interested.......while it hasnt been the norm for the Dogs to be unaccountable they were that game and Fev was on the money..

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A little balance if I may....

Fevola made a general (and in 2008, factually incorrect) statement about an opposition team's particular playing style. Rocket was merely refuting this in the context of our 2008 season (this bit was predictably not highlighted in the papers), and also (somewhat unneccesarily) highligthed the lack of respect that Fevola (the media performer) commands in the wider football community....Fev, the court jester and fool, is his own media creation, and it really goes without saying that he has little respect in the football community outside of his prodigious ability on the park. Ratts rightly was not happy that Fev opened his gob without thinking and without provocation and said as much.

On Sunday night, Fev was the recipient of awesome service and hard work up the field from Judd/Stevens/Gibbs/Murphy etc. I reckon, even with my gammy right knee and poor condition, I could have a taken some of those dolly's on the lead lace out in the 2nd half. In his 10 year career, this was the first time Fevola managed to get a kick against us, and predictably he could not help himself and piped up in the media. His inability to restrain himself with a microphone in front of him is sadly the norm for Fev.

How accountable was Fev with his piss-weak half-arsed 'chase' on Lake just before half-time which cost his team a goal on the half-time siren? Some of his midfield cohorts were probably puking blood at half time with the amount of work they were doing for their team.



I'm sorry Sedat, I usually have a lot of respect for your posts but IMHO that is absolute rubbish.

If you can find it somewhere, have a listen to the interview with Fev again and tell me where he said anything inflammatory. He merely made an honest comment (which on the night was completely correct) that Eade didn't like, so he decided to made it personal. If he had said that the dogs were an unaccountable pack of pansies that play like girls I would agree with you, but the fact is, he didn't. The media love to blow everything out of proportion as per usual and Rocket fell for it.

He would have gained far more respect from the football community had he laughed it off and talked more positively about his team than having a personal dig at Fev in return. What has this world come to if he have to analyse every little comment from anyone in the media and twist it into something bigger than it actually is just to sell papers/get ratings. If I wanted to see and read all of this shit I would buy trashy women's magazines.

The worst thing for Eade is that he forgot that Fevola (rightly or wrongly) thrives on that type of motivation from an opposition player or coach. I just get a feeling that he's got a couple of years worth of ammunition right there.

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I think it's all very funny :-D

A response from Eade along the lines of "Yeah well Brendan can say what he likes....if you look at our games in 2008 we have been accountable...we've played good one on one footy...blah blah"

To attack Fev is just as stupid as Fevs lack of filter...I reckon. The funniest thing of all is that they were unnacountable on the day.... :?

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What this meant for Rodney is that he didnt have to answer or read about why his team lost a game by 5 goals when with 25 mins of football to play, they were ahead by 5 goals. Its as simple as that.

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If you can find it somewhere, have a listen to the interview with Fev again and tell me where he said anything inflammatory. He merely made an honest comment (which on the night was completely correct) that Eade didn't like, so he decided to made it personal. If he had said that the dogs were an unaccountable pack of pansies that play like girls I would agree with you, but the fact is, he didn't. The media love to blow everything out of proportion as per usual and Rocket fell for it.

He would have gained far more respect from the football community had he laughed it off and talked more positively about his team than having a personal dig at Fev in return. What has this world come to if he have to analyse every little comment from anyone in the media and twist it into something bigger than it actually is just to sell papers/get ratings. If I wanted to see and read all of this shit I would buy trashy women's magazines.

Mil, I do agree that Rocket would have been better served by ignoring the comment - I did state this in my previous post. He's been around the block long enough to know if you argue with fools they will drag you down to their level and then and beat you with experience. I heard the Fev interview verbatim after the game - the unaccountable comment was an unsubtle swipe at the Dogs, and he used the football community as back-up..."everyone knows the Dogs are a pretty unaccountable team". That doesn't sound to me like an 'honest' comment in isolation about the actual game. Your coach didn't like what Fev said either, and made no secret of the fact that he wished Fev would just shut up for once in his life. As far as I'm concerned, meh, Fev's a big boy and he is free to say whatever he likes. Grain of salt stuff coming from him and Rocket should have treated it the same way.

In that post-match interview, Fev also pleaded his case in relation to the reversed free kick - first of all, what the hell was he doing initiating contact with Lake in the first place. He had the ball, and he was about kick one from the goal line. of course the umpire over-reacted but Fev could not help big-dicking himself by initiating uneccesary contact in the first instance. How did that action help his team in any way, shape or form? Selfish.

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Judd got the most handball receives of his entire career, because Rocket decided to play Cooney off him and may the best man cause the most damage.


Cooney was playing? huh! Didn't notice him...


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How did that action help his team in any way, shape or form? Selfish.


He's been doing stuff like that for years, probably one out of ten will be payed, depending on how much the player, in this case Lake is willing to act.....and what mood the umps are in

It probably caused a stir up in our box and caused Ratten to Spray Fevola and thus kicking him into gear....it could have been positive..afterall he did go on to kick 6....

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In that post-match interview, Fev also pleaded his case in relation to the reversed free kick - first of all, what the hell was he doing initiating contact with Lake in the first place. He had the ball, and he was about kick one from the goal line. of course the umpire over-reacted but Fev could not help big-dicking himself by initiating uneccesary contact in the first instance. How did that action help his team in any way, shape or form? Selfish.


I agree with most of that but fev seems to feed off everyone giving him sh5t, people spitting on him and blokes hanging over the fence calling him all sorts of crap. It sets the stage for him. The harder people go at him the first half the harder he goes in the end to kick the goals.

I personally would prefer him to kick 1.5 goals a quarter but that doesnt seem to be the fev way. He seems to love and welcome mistakes and abuse and bad umpiring because he loves turning it around on its head and giving it back in the same game.

Could be argued that Lake wasnt doing the team thing taking a dive as that just played into Fevs hands.

Strange player fev but he is kicking goals.

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In his 10 year career, this was the first time Fevola managed to get a kick against us


actually i'm pretty sure he ripped you guys a new arsehole at the dome back around 2002? think he kicked 6?

anyway not a big deal.

this whole thing is really a storm in a teacup and the dogs look like sore losers in the wash up.


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who really cares.

Its just a bit of banter that'll blow over by this weekend.

It's good for the game.

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http://afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabi ... wsId=64535

Akermanis hits back at Fevola

"I SHOULD let you in on my golden rule, and my golden rule is 'I do not respond to crap'."

WTF? :shock:

No you just "state" crap & then follow it up with more crap. :roll:

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Certainly sounds like a 'response' to me :lol:

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go FEV he's the best :-D

he rocks


he rules


he's our goal kicker 6 goal here we come :wink: :lol: :!: 8) he is cool



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ratten was right fevs good :!: i was shocked when i heard what eade said :shock: fevs our best player

fev rocks the galaxy :!: go fev you rock go fev :!: :roll:

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Mil Hanna wrote:
Sedat wrote:
A little balance if I may....

Fevola made a general (and in 2008, factually incorrect) statement about an opposition team's particular playing style. Rocket was merely refuting this in the context of our 2008 season (this bit was predictably not highlighted in the papers), and also (somewhat unneccesarily) highligthed the lack of respect that Fevola (the media performer) commands in the wider football community....Fev, the court jester and fool, is his own media creation, and it really goes without saying that he has little respect in the football community outside of his prodigious ability on the park. Ratts rightly was not happy that Fev opened his gob without thinking and without provocation and said as much.

On Sunday night, Fev was the recipient of awesome service and hard work up the field from Judd/Stevens/Gibbs/Murphy etc. I reckon, even with my gammy right knee and poor condition, I could have a taken some of those dolly's on the lead lace out in the 2nd half. In his 10 year career, this was the first time Fevola managed to get a kick against us, and predictably he could not help himself and piped up in the media. His inability to restrain himself with a microphone in front of him is sadly the norm for Fev.

How accountable was Fev with his piss-weak half-arsed 'chase' on Lake just before half-time which cost his team a goal on the half-time siren? Some of his midfield cohorts were probably puking blood at half time with the amount of work they were doing for their team.



I'm sorry Sedat, I usually have a lot of respect for your posts but IMHO that is absolute rubbish.

If you can find it somewhere, have a listen to the interview with Fev again and tell me where he said anything inflammatory. He merely made an honest comment (which on the night was completely correct) that Eade didn't like, so he decided to made it personal. If he had said that the dogs were an unaccountable pack of pansies that play like girls I would agree with you, but the fact is, he didn't. The media love to blow everything out of proportion as per usual and Rocket fell for it.

He would have gained far more respect from the football community had he laughed it off and talked more positively about his team than having a personal dig at Fev in return. What has this world come to if he have to analyse every little comment from anyone in the media and twist it into something bigger than it actually is just to sell papers/get ratings. If I wanted to see and read all of this shit I would buy trashy women's magazines.

The worst thing for Eade is that he forgot that Fevola (rightly or wrongly) thrives on that type of motivation from an opposition player or coach. I just get a feeling that he's got a couple of years worth of ammunition right there.


Like Mil said, and with all respect to you Sedat.

One thing I would like to add without trying to be defamatory, but you are pulling an 'Eade' posting what you did.

It's called deflection.

Don't worry about a fleeting comment made by Fev over a couple of seconds (and straight after a game), rather, put the comment in context and consider that Fev just referrd to Eade's tactic which had been said publicly, that he wasn't going to tag, and it failed. BIG DEAL. It's the truth, there wasn't anything sinister in the comment, so why all the hoo hah...we're grown ups aren't we?

What's your take on Fev making that comment?

My take on that is Eade is deflecting and not taking ownership of his failed tactics.

Why didn't the more mature, level headed Eade just say, "yeah I guess we didn't pay the respect a Judd tag deserved; we got it wrong" instead of worrying what Fev said which the whole football world knew and witnessed. Plain matter of fact.

Eade fell on his sword, and instead of taking ownership, he stooped down to Fev's level as the jester when given the opportunity to express himself into a microphone. (Fev wasn't really being anything other than a footballer who witnessed first hand the events which unfolded and resonded to a question with the obvious) .

Everyone found the tactic of not tagging surreal and everyone was taken by surprise the effect it had on the final scoreboard...even Fev.

Everyone knows Fev is a clown prince (such are those extraverts like Aker), but imo Eade made an absolute idiot of himself. I have lost a lot of respect for Eade from this...he's an agro little prick reacting like that imo...hasn't grown up, but acts like he is.

Would he encourage Aker to say the same things he said? Nah..then what sort of great role model is he for his team? Like I said, Eade's made himself look ordinary, Fev hasn't changed anyone's opinion of him.

Lets move on, and the Doggies should have a good hard look at themselves.

Don't worry about the last 10 years. you haven't got anything to hang your hat on, just focus on the disappointment you gave your fans from losing against a team that dares to dream and take on the challenge.

I grew up living next to Teddy Whitten, so there's a bit of Bulldog in me, and I'd say he would think you're all sooking. This is not the way Bulldogs bite!!

Pathetic, childish from a bunch of sooks clutching at straws. Grow up!

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