I wish she'd said that earlier so then they could turn around and say that the heat must definitely be on Plough then if he finishes behind a deliberately losing team!

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Firstly I didn't watch the Footy Show last week (the Amazing Race is much better value) so I am not sure what was said. Last night I watched FC and Hutchy said that it was one of the recruitment staff that said to Fev that they are interested in him if things break down with CFC. There was no actual offer made. Now Hutchy said that he did not mention any offer on the FS only that Sydney had approached Fev.

Either Hutchy or Caro made mention that Fev is after 4 years and it was Caro that called Fev an idiot for the way he has handled the whole negotiation.

Maybe Caro would like the CFC to negotiate like her beloved Tiggers and former president and have Pratt fly Fev over oh I don't know say, undeveloped land and offer him any piece of land he wishes for a steal or maybe Fev can exclusively look after some of his clients feet

I watched the Port Adelaide game (last quarter) and the Collingwood game (second half) over the weekend, and IMHO there is no way Fev will leave. He has done the hard yards and the losses hurt him more than most because he was the face of CFC during our rot. He wouldn't want to go through that again with say another team.

I don't begrudge him for trying to look after his and his family's future.

I didn' see that show last night, so I don't know what was said. However, I reckon Fev's been given some bad advice and knowing how clever he is, it's put him in a bad situation with the club.

Swan and Icke know he's not going anywhere, so the ball's in their court. Now they can control things and make Fev come back on their terms.

Lynch is dumb if he thinks we'll deal with these tactics.

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Caro called Fev an "idiot"

Unfortunately, Caro's rating of her own self-importance has sidetracked her.

FC is embarrassingly overly contrived.

Unfortunately, you don't have to be a psychologist to agree that Fev can be an idiot.
There is a lot of smoke here re: the Fenech night and maybe there is some fire as well, even if it is a mischievous attempt by Fev. If it's true, then once again, we have to decide whethere or not we can afford him. If not, let the negotiations continue.

Murphy's deal will be cut when the club's bean counters know which end of their budgeted salary bracket for Fev transpires.

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i was glad to see the way caro dished it out to fev. i don't care how many of the rest of you were pissed off that she could say such things but she was right on the money. fev has handled this is in a really pathetic manner. for all this club has done for him, the least he could have done was keep his contract negotiations private.

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Footy is a team game and no one player is above the club.

I love Fev, but if he keeps holding out for more & more money & longer contract, this will turn into a media circus. I agree with Caroline Wilson (on Footy Classfied) that its time to get on with it and stop the circus. Caro seem to imply that Fev may be influenced by 'external' forces to hold out for more. If that is the case, Fev, be your own man and make your own decision.

If not, lets just withdraw the offer & trade him at season end to the highest bidder. Be done with it. This will teach Fev a lesson. I like to think the club has learnt from the Kouta contract.

The club has backed him all the way and presented a very reasonable offer (from all reports). Time for Fev to show a bit of loyalty and get on with helping the footy club march towards a premiership instead of personal gain. Either be part of the solution or get out.

Did Caro pay out on the club? Becasue THAT would get me peed off!

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Whilst all media contrived...(Go back and plot what actually happened! - as it has been said, you can't write history whilst it's actually happening).....
The club and Fev have tried to put the brakes on (and Fev stupidly says at the fight - "Oh yeah, Sydney says I could have 4 yrs with them so you never know I may play for them next year")
Media prints and re-prints - Fev tells anyone who wants to listen whhe has an offer of 4 yrs for $3M... other than that no "public" - and yes Fev was naive to "brag" as that was what he was doing.

...the only real issue in this is the effect on the youngsters in the playing list.

Even Bentick's rare TV appearance ends up as "And this is what some other Bloke says about Fev" type article.

Kids (young Blues players) are hospitals, holidays, airports, lunches etc etc. and the only thing they are being asked is "What's happening with Fev?" ...let alone their girlfriends and families etc.

...and guess what, they (as it should be) have absolutely no idea!...but it does wear them down.

To be honest, if this gets signed down, I would get the groundsman to leak that the offer is off the table and call a press conference.

All of the journos will report that Fev is going elsewhere and CFC and Club do a presser announcing he has signed.

Just a little warning to the public and press that peddling rumour, innuendo, and hearsay is one thing...reporting on fact is another...and it should be clear which one is being done

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Greg Lee

PLEASE! I dont care how good a player is, contract negotiations should be kept PRIVATE. This has happened every time Fevs contract is up for negotiation. He gets away with murder around the club and should be kissing the ground that the club still wants him regardless of all the idiotic things he has done over the years. We have a bunch of young kids now that need to be led by LEADERS who handle themselves accordingly. Seriously, how are we going to go in a few years with Gibbs, Murph, Kruez etc if they follow Fevs example and make a mockery out of contracts.

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I stole Sheedy's Gatorade...

I agree 100%!

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Matty Kruzer you star!

if by saying no comment or i am not talkng about my contract is not keeping it private... I have not once heard fev talk about his contract except for the word i am not talking about my contract

all these comments about fev going to sydney and fev talking at fenech are just rumours and are not factual in which the media and the footy shows on tv have all hyped up

Let's talk loyalty. Loyalty is a 2 way street. As soon as a player's use is gone, or they can get rid of you to benefit the club, the club is quick to offload you pretty quickly. Ask JK and Lance. Make no mistake, if Fev was a less than 40 goal a year player he'd be gone by now given his indiscretions. Given he kicks 80+ the club needs Fev as much as Fev needs, maybe even more given our lack of KP forwards. So as you can see clubs don't show loyalty either.

This is Fev's last big contract and smart business is to negotiate the best one possible. Some of that business is talking offers from other club and using it as a bargaining tool in negotiations. That's been happening since the year "dot" not something invented by Fev and his management group. He'll stay and I'm sure he'll sign soon.

It took 33 pages. Thanks Jim.
The only person posting with an understanding of contract negotiations.

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No matter how long it takes Carlton to rebuild, they will still win a premiership before Essendon* and Collingwood.

Agree............100%.
Good post

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- Aristotle

We lost a good one to Collingwood. Stuff Juddy...sign up Mandy!!!

C'mon Mandy. Join the great CFC. We will match everything the Pies are paying you + more!

We will give you:

- a toothbrush (and teach you how to use it on any teeth you have remaining)
- clean clothes
- a haircut
- training on how to open a car door using keys
- speech lessons



Seriously speaking though, Mandy is great value. Wish she was a Carlton supporter...

I think thats a bit unfair to state that only 1 person on this forum understands contract negotions..

Has anyone actually seen the entire fev contract he has been offered to actually understand why fev has not signed yet?

for anyone to really understand how fevs contract negotiations is coming along is to actually see the contract itself then work out why fev has not signed...

Good points here

The fact is if Brendan hadnt been such a flower on past occasions the deal would have been done .


A 3 year deal obviously on good money is a fair deal IMO when you add everything up.

As I have said before his groin is an issue as well.

Hasnt seen out 2 of the last 3 years because of it

X 1 million

its gonna be one hell of a massive apology card

supporters my ass


lapping up the media rubbish like gospel - its pathetic

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

you better not clap him when he kicks a goal on friday either

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.