Reckon Fisher was a big pro yesterday. Yep, he can't kick 'em from more than 40m. But when he was the goto man (as Ratts said), rather than Fev, he kicked a goal and offered a good option across half fwd (the pick up was classy too).

Until we recruit another Richard Dennis or Matt Clape, and until Jake matures, he's the best we've got. And he played well yesterday.

fishers best game for about 6-8 weeks

True. But i'm upset cause Fisher IS better than what he has given this year. Fisher is an awesome forward option.....

But let's face facts.......

Fact #1. Fisher is a Forward
Fact #2. Fowards are paid to kick goals.
Fact #3. fisher has kicked just 14 goals this year. That's a goal a game. Is that good enough from a forward?

He is a great mark, one of the best we have (even more so than Fev). But he needs to lift.

He was not in our best yesterday and it aggrivates me reading the paper this morning to see he got votes whereas players like Gibbs / Wiggens / Bentick etc etc etc miss out?

Anyway. I will agree that it was Fishers best game in about 2-3 weeks but it's still nowhere near what i would consider a great game worthy enough of earning bloody votes.

Yes, each player can have their off days and they are all human after all and it's easy for me to sit behind a computer and say "They should do this and they should do that" etc etc etc.........I love Fisher, i really do. But 14 possessions, 3 clangers, 53% efficiency and 2 goals (one from a gimmie) doesn't really yell out to me "Great Game".

p.s. YES. I was at the game.

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What a great post.

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The discovery of the coolest person to ever grace the field!!!!!!!!!!







and a bloke called Stevens goes ok as well

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You bet your sweet patooty it is.


Simpson and Fisher >>>>>>>> Goddard and Wells.


And if you dont agree with that I reckon that Simpson and Fisher will play in more Premierships at careers end than Goddard and Wells.

Big fat middle finger and dropped dacks and exposed crack at Demetrispew.

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Your "facts" are too simplistic.

You are correct that Fisher is a forward. But if you've been to or seen our games this season, you'll have realised by now that Fisher is playing a different role to that which he has played in past seasons. He is clearly pushing up the ground more this season, coming up to the wings and even as far back as to our defence at times. Consequently he has kicked less goals and had less shots at goal. You aren't going to get many chances to kick goals from the wing!

Whether or not you or me agree with Fisher's new role is another matter entirely. But it is unfair to judge him solely on goals kicked as this would be measuring his performance against false criteria in light of his abovementioned new role in the side.

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I'm not JUST judging him on goals kicked, although that is a key factor!

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As far as I'm aware, all monkers are simians and all simians eat bananas -even MELVEY eats bananas, He is therefore a simian.

Nice try, Sam but as you can see, the logic doesn't quite stack up. All who make mistakes aren't humans. Just look at the next pod of whales that think the beach is a good place to have a nap.

And Melvey might not make mistakes. For all we know, he might just be wrong a lot for another reason. Maybe he eats too many bananas.

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Winning the game so well without Judd was a Watershed moment for the Carlton Football Club. Make no mistake - a win without Judd in this team of young players cannot be underestimated. The amount of confidence and belief a win like this will give the young boys is MASSIVE

Now to general a couple comments about the match

I have to be honest I was screaming at Stevens lack of anything in the first quarter. I couldn't believe that this was the guy who so desperately wanted the captaincy, and then when he gets it due to the injury to JUDD, he dishes up rubbish in the first quarter. Thankfully, Stevo put together a massive performance after that and showed true leadership quality. Agree with other posters here that that level of performance is what he should be giving week in week out, so it will be interesting to see if he can back it up next game.

Bryce Gibbs = SUPERSTAR. Outstanding game by this genius of a player. Easily the best game he has played in the Navy Blue. WOW! If that was an example of what this kid can do, I can't wait to watch him over the next ten years or so. Must be a Blue for life!!

The Essendon* game he looked to have raised a level IMO.

PRO: Check this out - EDIT or just look left

http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/carlton_images/Galleries/rd14-2008//01-bentick-rd14-2008-1-1.jpg

Image 12 of 23 God I love the attitude on this guy

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And notice how much better suited he was playing alot closer to goal rather than well up the field as he has been. Suddenly with himself, Edwards close to goals with Fev, together with a deeper running midfield we had multiple options, small and tall. Hence 10 individual goalkickers. Win alot of games with that. Notice too how the skills improved in the second half with more options.

Fisher is actually right on track for his second best goal return in his six seasons of footy.

2003 - 18 goals
2004 - 16 goals
2005 - 13 goals
2006 - 7 goals
2007 - 39 goals
2008 - 14 goals (est 22 for season)

20 to 30 goals a year is a nice return from Fisher.

I'm about to watch the game so don't tell me who won please.

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Wiggins has an ordinary day

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#GUILTY

Pissweak game. Don't bother.

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Is it just me or am I missing something regarding Fishers kicking?

On his set shots, he takes four steps and then kicks. There are only two blokes that I have seen who can kick off four steps and kick accurately over and beyond 40 metres.............Fev and Lockett.

Fisher can hardly kick 40 and struggles at that distance for accuracy simply because he doesn't have the strength in his thighs to kick off four steps. Lockett was a man mountain who simply gained distance in his kicking from the strength in his legs and Fev likewise derives his power from his massive thighs. But Fisher isn't the same build and therefore needs to go back to a ten step run up when lining up for set shots.

PROS:

- We won
- Fisher was finally more damaging closer to goal
- Gibbs is a rolls royce
- Stevo was superb, we are a shoe in for the eight if he keeps that form up.
- Bentick was tagged and still kicked arse.
- Waite flogged Richo
- Cotchin and Kreuzer are two superstars to emerge sooner than later
- Ando got a taste of it again. Started with a few turnovers but played alot better as the nerves settled.
- Browne was polished and tough
- Scotland ran his guts out as did Simmo

CONS:

- Carrots should play a quarter before the main game so he get all the crap disposals out of the way. He does improve as the game goes on.
- Carlos had no matchup suitable at the weekend, would of been good to give Austin a game.
- Slow starts will cost us again like the Essendon* game when teams kick straight. Richmond should of been 4 goals at least in front IMO at 1/4 time.

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Pros:
Stevens, Gibbs, Bentick and Kreuzer on ball.
Fisher was good up forward. Edwards and Wiggo showed a bit as well. Good to see the team using other targets than Fev.
Carrazzo down back.
Waite's game on Richo.

Cons:
As others have pointed out, Jamo is really struggling to spoil in overhead marking contests.