That’s the most precise quote in this thread! The Cain proposal but this isn’t really the worst plan to be hatched!

I’m of the opinion that any player, whilst on our list should be considered and available for selection if their form warrants and they are trying to improve. It is unfair and unreasonable to ostracise any player and all should be given a fair go.
We desperately need to sort something out in our forward line as this is probably of equal concern to our rucks as areas to address and improve. Whilst ideally I would love for Hartlett to finally step up (and his body to hold up!!!) and make CHF his own or for Austin to play at CHB (probably not ready yet and playing FB is a problem) and release Waite forward, giving Ackland a go might add another dimension to our forward line.

Whilst he plays soft in the ruck he is a big lump of a man and would command some attention playing forward. He is athletic and could, I repeat COULD, have some role, if not just to drag players out of Fevs and create other options. Cain’s still relatively young (26). I’m with most who think that his days are surely numbered at Carlton but if a player is putting in and showing form in the 2’s then all should be given a go. And I want the club to consider everything and be open-minded. Let’s see what the MC does

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C'mon Blueboys!

going backwards if we use ackland

lets develop an unproven player like hartlett or edwards

NEVER USE ACKLAND AGAIN

if we're struggling in the rucks like we are....let hammer have another run. bring in jacobs.

NEVER USE ACKLAND AGAIN

i dont care if he can kick 4 goals in a seniorgame, its more important to develop future prospects

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For the record he is only 26.

Not when there's an opposition chest to hit, lace out!

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Imagine Ackland becomes a gun forward. That would be funny.

Similar age to what Gtrain was when become a full forward.

Cant see it happening but it would be funny if it did.

Put it this way, if Ackland retires I doubt very much we'd redraft him...

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You see him play far more than others around here and i'll sign off on this, RR. It's called nothing to lose. Can't buy a goal out of any other "forward" at the moment. Either he or Harts maybe, but Harts wasn't much chop against Tiges in the first round, though.

Hughes and Morton - 11 b/w them v Port. Both in the magoos the week before and hardly household names. A risk worth taking?

Can he take a contested mark?

Still think Waite the answer @ CHF, but w/out Tex, Bower or Banno the MC just won't put him there. Pity, but only time will fix this and some of these lads not far away.

I second that

Does that goes for Setanta as well? After the shit games he has been giving us, Essendon* loves him.

Dont want to get off the topic but hasnt Setanta been doing ok. Thrashed Cloke, nice job on Pav, better than most on Brown and solid against Tredrea. Rubbish yesterday but not a bad last month.

It is hard to ignore an Eight goal performance, and remember he was among the Bests last week too with 3 goals.

The problem is, we have a number of players who are average footballers but who have a red hot go, and because they're young the MC would be reluctant to drop them. I am talking about the Clokes and the Russells etc.

I am not saying I agree with this sort of selection policy though. I mean Cloke is unlikely to ever be a star, and he was poor yesterday, so Ackland probably deserves to come in for him. But the MC won't drop Cloke.

Similarly, the MC have obviously decided to play Russell no matter what. But the problem is they do this at the expense of a Pfeiffer or Anderson.

And Wiggins is another one. Not young anymore, but a red hot goer who does ok but not very good. But because he's been in the team a few weeks now and we have been winning a lot of games, and because he is a good 'club man', the MC would not want to drop him.

isnt that the second bag in a few weeks??

if he was told by the MC to go back and work on being a leading target and a goal scorer - then he simply must be rewarded, especially when we are screaming out for alternative forward options.

i still think he could come in and we wouldnt kick to him, work needs to be done with the midfield and the F50 entries.

We could have Fev and buddy up forward and we still wouldnt kick it to buddy, we look for fev , its what we do , its our thing.

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Soooo, should we call him Buddy Ackland .

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club 29 Setanta didn't thrash cloke, check again, first half good then Cloke took over,

but on Ackland, it would be worth it for a laugh, they would have to put a tallk defender on him and he could really free up Fev, god knows what would happen when the ball hits the turf though

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Pretty sure he had a bag of 7 goals at PP followed by this 8 goal performance

Form is form and no-one on our list should be excluded from promotion if warranted

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C'mon Blueboys!

If there is an award for biggest balls on this site then I'm nominating you cj69 for creating this thread

He got POW and you want to give him big cajones as well.

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..vfl is way down the spectrum, an afl standard bag of goals has gotta be in the high teens for a player of Ackland's size/afl experience (if not skill).. ..he's just not up to afl standard no matter where you play him, but he's still too good for vfl.. ..that's been our big problem over the last few years.. ..too many players that rip it up at vfl, but just not up to afl snuff...

..much better to use hammo/kruze thru there..

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I'd rather give Hartlett a run but good form is good form. Ackland will at least have gained some confidence out of it and he might just do well if given the chance. The worst thing that happens is it doesn't work out and we are left in the same situation which we are now in anyway, i.e., Fev as our only real target. If it does work then we have a second tall option and therefore less predictable and hence more dangerous. It's also worth noting Ackland is a reasonable kick. Worth a try IMO.

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Wow, that's exactly what I gave him POW for

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Congratulations CK95