Waite is a lair....

But love to know why Hampson was dropped.. at least we could have had Kreuzer Hampson or Cloke resting down forward...

but no.... we have Fevola....

Ratts has three words for them... "kick it to Fev!!"

Thats it.....

Look were struggling for ideas...

The backline is only as bad as the midfield is ... the midfield is only as good as Judd plays...

The forward line is only as good as the midfield is playing (aka Judd) and the forward line is just Fevola....

Fev against 3 or 4...

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Fevola's forward line positioning is the best going around. He is in the right spot 9 times out of 10, and marks it 7 times out of 10.

Fev played a blinder, pantsing Gadget man and kicking 2 of the best goals you'll see. But like the Aints of long ago, when they had Plugger monstering sides, we'll be middle of the road at best until we find alternative options.

The Pies would have beaten us if Malthouse had double/tripled teamed Fev like all those sides that've beaten us (except the Flowering Bummers). Luckily for us Mick was too proud to do it, and instead let it be a "lesson" for Harry and Brown.

We've improved 50% on last year, but are only half way there.

MC stuffed it up this week. either hampson or austin had to play today. could've left kreuzer in the f50 all game if hampson played or waite could've played forward if austin played. how good did we look last week with waite up forward??

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I know you hate it when i back up a point you make and sorry for doing so again.

God forbid Juddy and Fev both miss a game. For the life of me i don't understand what we are trying to achieve here when all our attack revolves around Fev. Nothing else is being tried and it seems all our effort and development is about accountable and defensive footy.

We got smashed by a team that was willing to take the game on. Work hard for each other, not rely on one or two individuals to get them over the line.

Opposition teams just love beating a side with the ilk of 3 number one draft picks, 5 top 10 draft picks and Chris Judd. A champion team will always beat a team of champions

That'd be 4 words...

Fev is amazing though. There was one passage in the second quarter when I think it was Fisher who passed the ball to Fev 45m our near the boundary, ignoring another Carlton player in the middle about 30m out. I thought "What a stupid option." But sure enough Fev goes back and slots it. He is worth kicking it to most of the time.

I think the Carlton side are addicted to kicking it to Fev. It's not healthy but it feels so good when Fev pulls out a one hander and slots it from 50.

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Yeah but ....
Murphy should have kicked a goal (from 10 yards out) but handpassed to Fev who was surrounded.
Simpson should have had a shot at goal (running in before half time) but then went a short pass that missed the target.
The list goes on ...... time to look for other options .... not just the FF.

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I know, I wasn't advocating that we kick it to Fev all the time, just pointing out how good it feels when it works.

I'm hoping Jack Watts lasts til pick 7 in the draft.

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We need Hartwell, Edwards or Ackland into the team to provide another tall option forwards. As good as Fev is we still lost!!! There is a message in that.

ahh Synners seems you have an acolyte

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Especially Hartwell. He's a gun!!!!

na, he meant J.P....The Go-Between...

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Mevin is why Mr Smith calls us the Sycophants.

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stay on the topic....

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Apart from the umpiring, especially in the 1st quarter in front of their goals, these where critical plays that dictated the result of the game. The non-Russell mark was the final straw for the team.

WTF was with that mark?

Why wasn't it paid and why did Monga Mk 2 get the free?

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If it's true that Fev knocked back 2million, we might have to find another option for next year. Our salary cap pressure over the next two or three years as we try and keep all those top ten picks will be incredible. Someone has to go. If the board/MC/Swanny think Fev won't be with us when we challenge for the flag, I think they will let him go and try to trade for someone younger or for picks. It wouldn't be the first time a high profile player has been traded for long term benefit to a club. Hawthorn, Geelong have done it. Sometimes it works.
It's fantastic that Fev can kick 5, 6, 7, 8 goals most weeks but we could still win if three players kicked 3 or 4 each and a few more kicked singles.
Nobody at Essendon* kicked 7 last night but they still got up.
There is an old saying about putting all your eggs in one basket. We've put a lot of them in one with Judd's salary. If we do it again with Fev and one or both get injured, we are in deep shite. Anybody remember Kouta?
The moral of the story is we have to become less dependant on Fev, spread the joy around, become harder to defend against and we should win a few more games. We need Eddie to kick a couple a week, which he usually does, we need more from Fisher and the mids. Problem is, how can they kick goals when we go to Fev about 70-80% of the time?

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looking for other options wont happen - kick it to fev isnt a ratten game plan directive. Its a result of years of kicking it to fev.

Had hartlett played yesterday, how many I50 entries do you think would have been targetted towards him? Its the same with every other player that we have tried in the forward half over the past few years.

In my mind there are 3 ways to get around this
1. Bring in an established gun forward that demands the ball (ie brown, pavlich, lucas)
2. Play Fev away from goals so that our I50 entries must be targetted to another player - would be interesting to see how many goals Fisher might kick if he was played in the square and had the ball kicked to him 25-30 times/game. Richo has been moved away froom FF to try to develop other players, similarly lloyd has now been directed to play further up the ground - is Fev capable of doing this?
3. Trade Fev

I remember a couple of games when Pagan - yes I know but still you know only Collingwood is black and white - played Fev out further (no not that fullback game, that was a bit too far out) and let Fish and others kick the goals.

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Why is the finger being pointed at the Coaching Box?

This is a clear example of the playing group getting ahead of themselves. Yeah, the Coaching group should have been onto that (and I am sure they were with the statements coming from Ratts and Riley during the week), but realistically the finger needs to go towards the playing group. To throw it onto the coaching box is an ignorant cop-out. Get stuck into the blokes who weren't working as hard as they had done, and who started to believe their own press.