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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:13 pm 
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For the point of the exercise, I looked at our lists, structure and depth/quality.

I also did not put the likes of Walker, Thornton and Fevola in the 2004 version. As they are still playing, we will give them the benefit of hindsight......

When you put the relevant lists on paper, 2004 is quite frightening to be honest. How on earth did we win 10 games? How would that side go in 2008? Below Melbourne? Yes, they are all players to have represented our club, no disrespect, but shit we were up against it. It really does put in perspective where we are coming from. Within just four short years....


B Norman Livingston Franchina

F Betts Fevola Gibbs

HB McGrath Teague Sporn

HF Russell Fisher Pfieffer

C Clarke Camporeale Hulme

C Scotland Judd Simpson

HF Prendergast Deluca Davies

HB Grigg Waite Bower

FF Lappin Morrell Whitnall

FB Carrazzo Jamison Thornton


R French Johnson Koutoufides

RKreuzer Stevens Murphy


Int: Mott Harford Longmuir Bowyer

Int:Cloke Walker Hadley Browne

Emg: McCormick Chambers Bryan Wiggins

Emg: Jackson Armfield Banister Hampson

There are only 14 players still on our senior/rookie list that played in or before 2004. Can you name them all??

















They are:

Bannister, Bentick, Carrazzo, Fevola, Fisher, Houlihan, Scotland, Simpson, Stevens, Thornton, Waite, Walker, Wiggins, O'hAilpin


Massive list changes and development. Quite remarkable.

If these teams played each other, what would the score be?

Still an unproven remarkable transformation.


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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:55 pm 
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Youve got murph listed on the HF and on ball, who are you missing.

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No wonder we finished last for so many years

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Why haven't you included Fevola, Scotland, Stevens, Thornton, Waite, et al in the 2004 side?

Not really a fair comparison if you exclude the players that provided positives.


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I left them out because to date, they have cut the mustard.

I just wanted to point out, who we had and who has gone from our current list.


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