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So Can anyone have a guess if Fevola's suspension will count towards the VIC game?


he will be gone for an automatic 2 games. thats 2 games coming up that we goona lose :(




If Fev is suspended he can still play for victoria, it won't count for that game.

For what its worth fev was very disapointing in the 2nd half tonight. Rats should have dragged him.


He was disgraceful in the 2nd half.
Bower sensational.
Thank god for Judd.
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- Might just be me here, but does anyone else think that Dennis Commetti has a very obvious anti-Carlton bias? Maybe it just stood out more with Ox and Bucks (:shock:) talking us up so much


He's a WACCA.

Tonight would hurt.


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- Might just be me here, but does anyone else think that Dennis Commetti has a very obvious anti-Carlton bias? Maybe it just stood out more with Ox and Bucks (:shock:) talking us up so much


Great point bigfella, I thought the same throughout the game.

Wasn't that impressed by the Ox, and Im normally a fan of his, bit I was actually impressed by Bucks.

We should do everything we can to get him on board as an assistant next season.

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If Fev gets a couple weeks for that i'll be pissed!

I understand if Fev gets a week for it.. but any more i think is over the top...

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...Wasn't that impressed by the Ox, and Im normally a fan of his...


Normally a fan of the Ox?! :shock:

What do you reckon mods, should we ban him? :lol:

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If Fev gets a couple weeks for that i'll be pissed!

I understand if Fev gets a week for it.. but any more i think is over the top...


Didn't look like there was much to it brother... :)


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Pros
-Simmo's courage to play on and score that goal in the last, finishing off some superb team running
-Grigg's composure, he wasn't the difference between a win and a loss, but he showed plenty tonight
-Murphy, again, not terribly influential, but he is a footballer's footballer, his strength in the packs will be as good as Judd's by the end of next season
-Stevens, was fantastic all night, won some good footy in tight and some of his longer foot passing was unbelievable
-Judd, forget possessions, his toughness around the stoppages probably saved us a goal or two late in the third, and his pack buster to set up Gibbs in the last was true leadership (David Schwarz must be sacked, he called Judd serviceable, then Buckley pwned him with some astute observations)
-Judd again, that foot pass from his centre clearance to Fev was CHAMPAGNE FOOTBALL
-As noted in the game thread, being challenged like that and winning strongly in the end will do more for our self belief and character than a lazy 12 goal win would have done
-The boys relationship with Josh, while it was sad to watch, it shows that our boys are forming a strong bond, and given the introduction to AFL football they have had this will stand them in good stead, we are going places!!!

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Will all be celebrating at the Souvlaki Hut this week ... GO BLUES YOU flower LITTLE BEAUTIES



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Cmon Camel I know you are happy but there were a lot of cons tonight, we faded out badly and almost lost it, and we got to such a big lead mainly due to goals which resulted directly or indirectly from free kicks and 50 m penalties.

Our disposal and decision making was shocking at a lot of times, we are still lacking in the ruck department and too many times we run with the ball like headless chooks.

Fev's punch was stupid too.

Ok, pros:

- We came back to boot the last 5 goals of the game
- To win under such pressure will give the boys great confidence
- Bower again had a great game, been very impressed with him in the last month
- Scotland had his best game
- Judd's impact in the last quarter, he is a superstar


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- Weagles should have won...their poor goalkicking and woeful 2nd qtr saved us


I know what you're saying but.....what a load of bullshit..... well....... I agree with you to a point....... :? well.......Now I'm confused?

Look, at every stage we still should have won the game...... I mean we dominated the first 3/4 of the first 1/4, and what was the score at 1/4 time? 2.4 to 2.3? Then we raped them 8 goals to 0 in the 2nd....... We were belting them. Most of our players don't know what to do being in a postion like that. Old Brucey was saying it was our biggest half-time lead in any game for 7 years or something of the like!!! At Subiaco FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They were always going to come back, in some respect. There was no way the Weagles were going to come out after half time and just lay down, no matter how shit they were playing. (which, by the way, was absolute shite) We played some absolute rubbish too in parts. But we won................ by 37 points.............. at Subiaco.............. after they had closed within 7 points................ after having them 54 points down in the third 3/4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We showed some resolve and we came back and demoralized the opposition in the end. We closed the game out, and it was good-bye Weagles!!!! Pretty much all we can ask for at this stage IMHO.

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Broke that flowering interstate hoo doo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Carrots - he may not be able to kick, but flower he is strong through the hips; the guy can take on any situation. If he could kick well, his name would be C. Judd. :wink:

Bower - Love this guy! Still got a bit to go, but imagine this fella taking on the opposition from half back as part a solid team in a couple of years...... scary

Stevo - doing the job that he is best at; receiving and using the ball well. (and that is not a criticisim)

Scoto - Played the sweeper role perfectly

Browne/Gibbs/Kreuz/Murph - just so composed for 18/19 year olds....... unbelieveable really

Grigg - Especially under pressure. I kept closing my eyes, but it all worked out for him when it counted

The Wiggler - Not an absolute standout game by any means, but just so satisfyingly good when it counted 8)

JR - Thought his first half was great, but just like for Fev, the opportunities dried up in second 1/2

Waite/Jamo/Santy - Only fell a little behind their opponents when the Weagles got their run-on. Waite was great, and no brain fades :shock: :shock: :shock:

Eddies little touches of brilliance - When this team becomes dominant look out :shock:

Young Davey Ellard being involved in a win and a goal in his first game at Subiaco :-D


Cons:

This team gives me a flowering heart attack everytime I watch them play :garthp:

Fev's stupid antics/aggression when it doesn't matter - wait until a grand final for flower sake!!!

Kennedy looking so good for them.

Not being able to deliver the killer blow, until the last 7 minutes.

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Cmon Camel I know you are happy but there were a lot of cons tonight, we faded out badly and almost lost it, and we got to such a big lead mainly due to goals which resulted directly or indirectly from free kicks and 50 m penalties.

Our disposal and decision making was shocking at a lot of times, we are still lacking in the ruck department and too many times we run with the ball like headless chooks.

Fev's punch was stupid too.


Oh, I agree, but the people who matter in the coaching box will make our guys fully aware of the areas we need to improve on from tonight's game.

It's just that the positives so far outweighed the negatives, as plenty of others have said, we would have lost that game last year. Let's celebrate what has been a gutsy win we can all be proud of, even if it we didn't play well for all four quarters.

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IMO we were very lucky with the umpires in the first half which meant we were really only a 5 goal better side until HT than an 8 goal better side.

They came back at us in the second half and despite some 'corrective' umpiring we actually ended up winning by more than 5 goals.

Huge confidence booster for many of the young players.

Watch them blossom in the second half of the season.

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Pros:
everyone contributed.
hadlee, thornton not playing and we've still won

Cons:
Scotland and Carrazo's kicking - they could be very damaging players if they could kick well. Scotland always kicks it way too high up in the air and the opposition always had the time to spoil our marks.


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Pros:
We won 3 of the 4 quarters. (Now for 4)
Judd didn't get as much as he sometimes does but you know when the radio bloke says Judd has the footy that a Carlton player will have it next.
The back six stood up well, despite not having TBird.
Bower is getting better and better and will be among the ones first picked every week on current form and trends.
A game into Ellard, Browne. Ellard did OK and will play again this year.
Have to mention Wiggo being calm under pressure in the last.
We came back almost from the dead.
Hadley to come back.
Cons:
Why do we have those heart-attack fadeouts?
Kicking out from a point is awful.
We got killed in the ruck again.
Fev needs a catscan to make sure there is something inside his head. If there is, I doubt it fills the entire allotted space.
No match next week.

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Cons:
3rd qtr fadeout, and the impression that we are fragile physically and mentally under pressure.
Thrashed in the ruck. Admittedly against one of the best going round at the moment.
Our defensive pressure in the F50 was non-existent.
The appearance that the team drops their bundle when things aren't going their way. The umpiring all night was some of the most over-officious rubbish I've ever seen, but there were some horrid frees given away. (Waite got robbed blind on that 50 though. The gayest 50m penalty in history)
Having to listen to Channel 7's team of Captain Obviouses. All they do is say blindingly obvious stuff ("Gee, the West Coast are going to have to try and kick a goal here" when they were 4 down with 5 mins to go). Made me wish I was profoundly deaf.

Pros:
WE WON
Team. The guys played for each other, and wouldn't let each other be physically threatened. Smurf and GIBBS both stood up to the physical pressure put on JUDD at various points.
Skills were much better.
The back 6, even missing T-bird stood up well under pressure, especially in the 3rd, only rushed 2 behinds (I think)
The younger guys developing: Saw some great things from Ellard, Bower, JR, Browne, Smurf, GIBBS, Jamo was OK, as was Grigg
Bower's faith in himself and the others to play on after that mark which led to the goal which put the match away.
WIGGO
JUDD standing up when we needed him, even though he basically sacrificed his own game for the sake of the team for 3 qtrs, knowing he'd be under immense pressure, which freed up Stevens, Smurf, GIBBS
Smurf is looking like the genuine #1 pick now. Showing real class and skills in traffic. (I love that boy!)
We won without being Fev-dependent. Yes he kicked 4, but 2 of those were from 50M penalties. He copped some very severe "attention" last night, and should have been the recipient of 5-6 frees.
We didn't drop our bundle when asked the big question
Oh, and WE WON

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Another Pro:
There will be more to be learnt from a match we should have taken away from the opposition in the third, but had to fight back for a gritty 6 goal win, than we would have learned from smashing them by 15 goals. Will go a long way towards development.

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Pro's

Murphy- tough, courageous. Great game.
Browne- good decisions, composed and tough.
Bower- Continues to run through the corridor and break up the play. Fantastic
Carrazzo- Quality performance. Yes he turns it over occasionally but everytime he runs it out of defensive 50, the opposition are'nt scoring.
Eddie- great hands and good workrate.
Gibbs- good composure and a ferocious tackler. Lacks confidence at the kickouts atm One of the senior players should have taken the burden off him.
Judd- When the game had to be won, the man delivered on cue.
Jamo, Setanta and all the youngsters (including Kruezer). Good efforts and the wins will be great for their confidence.

Cons- I'm not seeing it with Waitey. I thought he was led to the ball consistently by his opponents and was beaten easily on the night.

Great to see Wiggo get a run but he's hopefully only keeping the seat warm. Players who are fumblers rarely can turn it around. Wiggo has'nt.
Great clubman but not AFL material.

Simmo and Fish. Both giving it everything but both are below their best ATM.
Lets hope they can turn it around soon as they're both crucial to our side.

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Taff wrote:
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Good point about Bentick there Jars. He's not fancy, but was in there putting his body on the line and spilling the ball from the packs tonight and was great in the last quarter.


Just wish he had nailed that goal!


Apparently missing that goals was going to cost us the entire match according to Bruuuuuce. :garthp:

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Because we won, we probably won't hear from Abbadon this week.

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Gibbs- good composure and a ferocious tackler. Lacks confidence at the kickouts atm One of the senior players should have taken the burden off him.


At the moment the only guys who are going to take this upon themselves are Judd or Simmo....maybe Murphy. Judd's worth is further afield, maybe being the second or third receiver after the kickout and Simmo was struggling himself a little last night.

Murph was busy protecting Judd and Stevens :-D

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Maybe Brad but Carlton is leading the AFL for scores from defensive kickouts.
Our efficiency drops a fair bit when Gibbsy takes to kicks IMHO. Its no good having valuable players up the field if the ball doesnt get to them. IMO Stevo or Scotland should have taken the responsibility and not left it to a 19 year old who is still learning the game.

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