bullocks!!

Scotland and Houlahan will both play 22 games this year barring injury and both will be in the top 10 in the B&F.
Again.

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Has been doing it for years.
Uncontested possessions he may get but his direct and even in-direct opponents (anyone within 1 foot of him) have continuously hurt us in the past. We cannot get any worse right now so give his position to Pfeiffer and move him out .... next

The problem with both these guys is they're too slow for the modern game. We can use one of them on the field at any one time, but not 2.

Ideally we'd have Grigg/Anderson/Benji in the department of defence. Much faster stronger (when developed) and bigger tanks.

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Exactly. Push Houlihan forward, push Scotland out the door, and bring in Joey & Armfield.

They both have barely passable defensive skills, but its their skill by foot that sees them at half-back currently. This will change over time with players like Browne and Walker coming into or returning to the side. It also adds pressure to their positions in such a quality midfield.


That is ridiculous... he is a natural wingman and attacking flanker. Have the last four years of him hitting blokes on the lead slipped your mind?

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My problem with both is that when they're out there they seem to be playing their own game. Clearly I'm not privy to the game plan each week, but they rarely seem to be involved in assists or helping out their team mates - they get a lot of uncontested ball hanging out the back, dispose of the ball (usually fairly well) and then seem to think their job is done.

I'm not usually one to call for people's heads at the selection table each week - but I am of the opinion the MC should seriously be evaluating the ceiling of these two players vs the ceiling of Browne, Grigg etc and weighing up who's going to offer more in the long term, and who's going to buy into the game plan we have now.

The fact that they haven't even considered Ackland, even when he was ready, answers this question, for mine

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When we can afford to play Houlihan as a luxury in the forward line, we'll know we're fielding a strong side.

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I understand that Fisher is coming back from injury & needs to gain some match fitness, but Saturday night was the worst game I've seen from him.

When the game was ther for the winning, Fisher was persisted with, when i thought he was the obvious change to be made.

Judd was being tagged out of the game...why didn't he get a spell up forward, then re-shuffle the midfield to get some ball down there?

Anyway, they'll all be better for the experience when they take on the pies this week & give us that long awaited win.

Ever played AFL footy after a hand injury Melvin?

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Scotto will fire up against his old mob..

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What's with everyone jumping on Fisher all of a sudden?
He kicked 40+ goals last year - he could get a game in any side in the comp.
All of a sudden we think we can do without him!
Give the guy a break!

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I agree. The problem is not Scotland and Houlihan. They are both clearly in our best 22 and Scotland has just about been in our best 3 for 4 years. However, the Scotland, Houlihan, Carazzo combination are not quick or defensive enough back up for Judd,Stevens, Gibbs & Murphy. I put a lot of the blame on Ratten over the last few weeks for picking Bannister who has no future despite playing ok, instead of developing Grigg, Jackson or Andersen. One of them at least should be in the 22 and given a permanent development run with role so they can take the position of Scotland, Houlihan and Carazzo

No, never played AFL. I did play in the EDFL, tore my ACL last year. My footy days are done with.

Opposition teams use a running player on him. Even worse according to you he has a hand injury and can't tackle nor can he chase. Why play him then??

agreed.......back to form

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Thirded. I looked at Andrew Lovett burning up and down the G the other night and all I was thinking was where the hell is Benji?? Why isn't he being played?

I don't care if he's not ready. Lovett wasn't ready when he started. He used to spray kicks all over the shop. Sheeds didn't care, he just told him to go out there and run fast. Break the lines. Excite the fans and make the opposition nervous. And now a few seasons later, he's a genuinely dangerous player cause he's starting to finish well at the end of those breathtaking runs.

I'd be trying to develop one of our genuinely quick players in the team. Put him in and tell he you're not dropping him all season so he should back himself. Seems to work for Hawks and Pies. What our problem?