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GAVROMAN
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I dont know much about Aisake but i think we should count our losses with Setanta. I dont think he's good enough and he's no longer young...im pretty sure he's turning 25 this year.

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Can someone please give a summary of what the thread says?


Spanner still has you on the banned list I see

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Sydney Blue wrote:
Jarusa wrote:
Can someone please give a summary of what the thread says?


Spanner still has you on the banned list I see


Am I still on there?
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AGRO
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Jarusa wrote:
Can someone please give a summary of what the thread says?


Spanner still has you on the banned list I see


Am I still on there?



Jars has been a very bad man, a very bad man, a very bad man.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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..hogwash, if the big Setant was out of favour, why was he rushed back last week..?.. ..he was obviously underdone.. ..the rumour's bollocks..

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AGRO wrote:
thehalford wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Jarusa wrote:
Can someone please give a summary of what the thread says?


Spanner still has you on the banned list I see


Am I still on there?



Jars has been a very bad man, a very bad man, a very bad man.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Geez they have long memories there.

Still off as well!
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7dominator wrote:
AGRO wrote:
thehalford wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Jarusa wrote:
Can someone please give a summary of what the thread says?


Spanner still has you on the banned list I see


Am I still on there?



Jars has been a very bad man, a very bad man, a very bad man.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Geez they have long memories there.

Still off as well!


I can't image why? You have so much to offer. :?

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I have just been perusing CSC and there have been some disturbing allegations posted regarding the O'hAilpin boys and their attitude. The poster seems to have runs on the board over there and appears not to be just making trouble. Given that they are my faves, I hope the the post is not accurate.

Anyone able to shed any light - Caz; Sticks; River Rat? Any truth in this, any probs with coaching staff.
Details here- http://www.carltonsc.com/modules.php?na ... &start=250 Peony's post near bottom of page


I don't agree with the assessment of the brothers but (unfortunately) I do believe it is an accurate assessment of how they are viewed by the current coaching staff - none of whom were coaches at the club when the brothers arrived.

Coaching effectively requires good communication skills - have you heard Lappin try to communicate with other players?

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don't see what the problem is, if the brothers have a bad attitude, or perhaps are petulant, or sooks, or underdone, unfit, or whatever then that should make them certainties for a senior spot under the current criteria ...

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don't see what the problem is, if the brothers have a bad attitude, or perhaps are petulant, or sooks, or underdone, unfit, or whatever then that should make them certainties for a senior spot under the current criteria ...


Nice one... :lol:

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RiverRodent wrote:
gerry atric wrote:
I have just been perusing CSC and there have been some disturbing allegations posted regarding the O'hAilpin boys and their attitude. The poster seems to have runs on the board over there and appears not to be just making trouble. Given that they are my faves, I hope the the post is not accurate.

Anyone able to shed any light - Caz; Sticks; River Rat? Any truth in this, any probs with coaching staff.
Details here- http://www.carltonsc.com/modules.php?na ... &start=250 Peony's post near bottom of page


Coaching effectively requires good communication skills - have you heard Lappin try to communicate with other players?


Amen RR. I do love Skinny but I must admit this left me scratching my head when he was appointed.
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cant find the statement by peony.
What page is it on.


To be honest am getting maddened by this talk. bottom lip is almost bitten off.
Hope I dont become annoyed enough to start on this subject as would like to stay well clear.
Would appreciate a voice of reason i.e. kouts or synbad caz to tell me what te other side of the story is, pleae?? Even a PM.
Thanks

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FYI, Beano, peony wrote:

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Setanta and Aisake are kind of um how do you say it, whingers.... They believe that evryone is against them and they don't understand the game. They think when they are given a task they are in trouble and getting told off rather than just being given instructions, basically they both have really bad attitudes. Unless something dramatic happens this year, I would not be surprised to see them both gone. They are both having difficulties understanding the nuances of the game. Setant is not as athletic as Aisake, but slightly understands the game better, whilst Aisake, very athletic, but really cannot get any dummer. He was the worst on ground last week for the ants. He was surly, he roasted Skinny when skinny was giving him directions and to top it all off, at 3 quarter time he received a bit if a slap on the hand from teaguey cos of his attitude, and him and setanta then paired off and started whingeing about everyone. It is really pathetic to put it bluntly and many people at the club are getting mighty sick of it

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Cheers, Sounds like BS, I'll investigate it further here.

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Bananas thread... If you've ever met any of the brothers you would know that they don't drink, don't smoke, work their asses off and are extremely professional. But yet they have threads like this started about them. The original poster should be ashamed. There are always going to be communication issues when working with Irishman that are not natural AFL footballers, but to take it to this level is ridiculous.
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Agree nyt. it seems to me that the real issue here is ongoing and proper communication, along with the issue of our current coaching structure and development system with the bullants.

obviously the club wanted more control over the bullants after the recent fiasco with pagan/mitchell, but the current system is bizarre it seems to me.

teague and lappin as playing coaches? can't see their qualifications for this role, or the upside in having a playing coach at this level. anyone who has played competitive sport knows that it is hard enough to focus on playing your part in the game, let alone managing and advising everyone else. on top of this, are teague and lappin sufficiently respected to get the job done?

it seems we have gone from one extreme (pagan/mitchell stand-off) to the other. will be interesting to see how it pans out.

certainly hope that any issues in positive and useful communication with not just the ohailpins but all players can be overcome.

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Bananas thread... If you've ever met any of the brothers you would know that they don't drink, don't smoke, work their asses off and are extremely professional. But yet they have threads like this started about them. The original poster should be ashamed. There are always going to be communication issues when working with Irishman that are not natural AFL footballers, but to take it to this level is ridiculous.


No one is questioning there hard work and dedication.

The issue is they sound like a broken record and if they don't get it now they never will. They continue asking the same questions week in week and some of the players try and avoid contact. They don't listen to and haven't listened to fitness and conditioning staff and overdue things that hamper there progress. I brought this up a while back and if either of them were to make it would be Aisake
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Setanta has made it though. Aisake hasn't yet, but Setanta definitely has made it already.
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Well................ This sucks!

I don't know if this is bullshit or not, but i for one am still fuming that Setanta has been dropped.

Watch him kick a goal and grab at the CFC emblem with passion and pride and tell me he doesn't want to be out there.

But regardless of that, if his attitude is what the post said.............. is it any different to that of Fevola? Should we drop him too?

Or Stevens for his beer gut and piss-poor on-field actions last week? Should we drop him?

I don't know what's going on............... but i want it fixed and soon.

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But regardless of that, if his attitude is what the post said.............. is it any different to that of Fevola? Should we drop him too?

Or Stevens for his beer gut and piss-poor on-field actions last week? Should we drop him?


I wont comment on the ohailpin boys other than I want them to succeed - however to answer the above questions - yes and yes - I would have dropped them years ago and would be looking to offload them at the end of this year
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