I dont think there is any here who has not at some point in there life had to relieve themselves somewhere in public after being caught short - however 9 out of 10 of us would have the foresight to be more discrete than Fevola.

I dont have a problem with Fevola having one night out prior to the season starting - but 5 days out from a game is inexcusable - as it would be during the course of the season.

He was seen at the Casino on the weekend from the early hours of the morning to nearly mid-day playing cards - prior to heading out to the Grand Prix (not sure if he actually made it there).

To go on this sort of bender this close to Round 1 is inexcusable and obviously he was in no fit condition to make a decision as simple enough as to be able to find a discrete place to have a piss.

Its almost time for our leadership group to take a leaf from the "Steve Johnston" program. Not having Fevola for 6 weeks is not going to affect our Premiership chances this year and will give players like Edwards and Hartlett responsibility and an opportunity to show there wares as a go to player.

This course of action may affect our membership sales - however we have to give credit to our members and supporters who are intelligent enough to see the positive side to this course of action.

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+1

Plenty of players have stuffed up on or off field on ocassion - most learn from it and seek to change their ways. Fev on the other hand is a repeat offender.

The leadership group will give him some sort of punishment, he will be a good boy for a while and then do something silly again. He just happens to be an absolute gun player as well as a marketing powerhouse.

Fev is Fev, he is never going to change. That is fine with me because the good far outweighs the bad. I don't see any evidence with my limited observations around the club that Fev is acting as a strong negative influence on the youngsters at the club. Seems that the young players have the 'Fev is Fev' attitude as well and do not aspire to act like he does.

If only some of the supporter base had the same mature attitude.

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what to do, what to do?

My initial reaction was not to suspend but to remove from leadership group, fine him as much as we legally can, put a suspended sentence on him and impose a curfew on him.

Then I thought about how I criticised colonwood for playing Didak last year, but obviously that was a much worse incident.

The media will highlight Steve Johnson getting disciplined last year and others also, but there are many more players that are played after messing up then those that are suspended. I think back to F Gehrig who not just pissed in public but pissed on someone! It is also interesting that if you are a player who messes up in the pre-season (around xmas) then there is no talk of missing a game.

What it comes down to for me is if the club had a curfew in place and he broke it then we have no choice, if there was no curfew then play him.

Very disapointing but I don't want to be the one that suffers on Thursday night, I won't be able to handle losing to the tigers.

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It's the clubs fault they should have had the balls to get rid of him when they had the chance .

those of you saying he is a match winner correct me if I am wrong but we haven't been winning many matches lately

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Has to be suspended for round one.

Look... the people who are saying that this is a winnable game, etc are in la la land. We aren't making finals this year. Those who say we need memberships from a victory are probably showing more foresight, but once again it is thinking about 2008 rather than the bigger picture.

In the end, what is going to prop up Carlton membership is a successful team in 2009-2013. That's the message we need to be sending out to the kids... that no matter who you are, or how important you are to the team, that you aren't bigger than this football club.

At the very least Fev has dragged the Club's name through the mud. You'd have to speculate he was also drunk before the club's season opening. In the end, the decision as to what to do isn't about Fev, it is about setting this club up for sustained success over a 5-8 year period (of which Fev realistically may be a part for only half of it) and sending a message to the kids who will form the fabric of our football club over that period of time. Therefore:

- A suspension from round one
- Removal from the leadership group
- A fine or community service

Also important that our leadership group shows strength in this decision.

Good old Fev, when are people going to realise some personalities just won't grow up no matter the punishment you dish out.

We need to win Thursday night, Fev will give us that win.

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What he's done is wrong but I want him to play round 1.

I've forked out a lot of money to travel interstate to see the Blue Jesus lead us out on the G and I want us to have every possible chance of winning that game. What's the point otherwise?

Fine him, cut him from the leadership group or whatever but don't punish us supporters, we have had precious few wins to celebrate lately lets not make it even harder to win.

Couragous leadership required!

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Fev...Fev...Fev...*sigh*...

So so so frustrating...

What will it take?

Play him and if he doesn't deliver due to his poor preparation then drop him.

Don't overestimate Fev in all this Jars - I can only speak for myself, but I'd be as pissed off with any player that has embarrassed the club as routinely and with as little remorse as this bloke.

What annoys me more than anything is Fev apologists claiming he loves the club blah blah blah. If he loved the club he wouldn't have been out on a bender five days before the seasons starts when he's part of the LEADERSHIP GROUP.

Anyone who thinks he genuinely cares about anything or anyone other than himself are kidding themselves big time.

QFT!

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"our electorate seeks less to be informed and more to be validated." Sad times.

Some Einstein (Greg something...he's on with KB at around this time) on SEN just made a bold prediction. Said that there are only two possible outcomes for Brendan Fevola. Said that "he will either play, or he won't play".

I would not give a toss who it was. I actually feel sorry for the players when they get done. If they are drink driving, they lose their license, but on top of that they get suspended and usually atleast $5000 ontop of that by the AFL.
And if they break a curfew of 1am, then they get suspended or some other BS. A AFL player means you can't have a social life at all. The curfew would mean you cant even go out after 1am and not even be drinking and you break the rule. Basically, you can't do any bucks nights, go to any bday parties, functions and stay out after 1am. Sure u can go have a couple drinks but how ridiculous in this day in age we have curfews. I dont agree with Fev being out at 4am, but i'm sure he will come out and kick a bag. Fev being drunk 5 days before a game wont affect his performance at all on Thursday. Alcohol doesn't affect your body that much, but you dont want younger players doing it aswell.

Put it this way, l read about the fev article today.

Willie Mason: Was fine last month for pissing a public place.
Sonny Bill Simmons (NRL star): Fined for pissing outside a night club. He was fined $650

Now i think this is being a bit blown out of proportion. If Fev receives more then just a fine this is ridiculous

If ever anyone needed to give up drinking, it's this bloke.

Clearly can't handle the booze. If he gave it up, he'd still be immature. But he wouldn't be pulling idiotic stunts like this one.

Idiot

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I don't have any problem with him being out late on a Saturday night. He probably only had a lazy Sunday planned, like most of us, anyway.

Has there been any reports he had lots to drink, or that he was blind drunk or anything? I haven't read all the media but I don't reacall seeing any mention of him being off his face in what I have read.

It's a pretty minor indcident to get worked up about.

Judge him on the field not offield please. Best Forward in the league.

Forget all the political BS, we want to win games. Would not of won a game without him last year. Even if he doesnt do a thing out there on the field hes double teamed leaving another player open.

If he flowers up again, suspend him. But he should only get a fine like the NRL players

This is the bottom line for me too JohnM. Fev is horrible when on the drink and he needs to stop. It is the common denominator in all of his meltdowns. Is it too much to ask to get him into some sort of program? I would rather that than a suspension.

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