Surprises me that a lot of posters don't see the value Eddie adds to the team... Match winning abilities, ability to turn a game, forward line pressure that no one else in the team provides, ability to rotate through the midfield with effectiveness, mercurial (not many others in the team have that). Eddie is a must until we have someone better than him at what he does - which we dont right now.

Pfeffier Jamison Bower
Walker Thornton Scotland
Houlihan Carrazzo Simpson
Gibbs Waite Fisher
Kruezer Fevola Murphy
Cloke Judd Stevens
Hampson Hadley Betts Jackson

Give me this team and I'll show you finals!

ps. Your team is close Brizzy but not as good as mine, but bloody close.

Setanta will play every game this year if available. He's better already than Bower IMVHFO, so if you ask me who he could replace, that's my answer. Also, Fisher can't play for weeks so why select him?

shocking post

The guy does not panic. The number of times he was tackled and his strength forced two or three opposing players towards him and he found a teammate free was gold....

To say Carrazzo succumbs to pressure is one of the most stupid comments I have ever read on this website.

Backs:.............Grigg (3-6).............Jamieson (2)........S O’hAilpin (2)

HBacks:...........Walker (3-6)..........Thornton (2)........Scotland (3-6)

Centre:............Simpson (6)............Gibbs (6).............Stevens (6)

HForw:............Fisher (4)................Waite (4)............Houlihan (5-6)

Forw:..............Hadley (5-6)............Fevola (4)...........Kreuzer (4-1)

Follow:............Hampson (1-4).......Judd (6)..............Murphy (6)


Interc:.............Bentick (6)..............Bower (2)...........Cloke (1)........Betts (5)


Emerg: ...........Anderson (3)...........Hartlett (4) .........Pfeiffer (3-6)

5:...Chris Judd (6)

24: Nick Stevens (6)

1:...Andrew Walker (3-6)

4:...Bryce Gibbs (6)

6:...Kade Simpson (6)

3:...Marc Murphy (6)

10: Richard Hadley (6-5)

29: Heath Scotland (3-6)

33: Ryan Houlihan (5-6)

16: Shaun Grigg (3-6)

7:...Adam Bentick (6)

36: Darren Pfeiffer (6)

44: Andrew Carrazzo (6)

38: Ryan Jackson (6)

Thanks guys for your kind thoughts. For those of you who push the Carrots barrow, have you had a serious look at our midfield rotation possibilities? This the order that I regard them in at the moment.


5:...Chris Judd (6)

24: Nick Stevens (6)

1:...Andrew Walker (3-6)

4:...Bryce Gibbs (6)

6:...Kade Simpson (6)

3:...Marc Murphy (6)

10: Richard Hadley (6-5)

29: Heath Scotland (3-6)

33: Ryan Houlihan (5-6)

16: Shaun Grigg (3-6)

7:...Adam Bentick (6)

36: Darren Pfeiffer (6)

44: Andrew Carrazzo (6)

38: Ryan Jackson (6)

2:...Jordan Russell (6)

13: Luke Blackwell (6)

46: David Ellard (R) (5-6)

20: Clinton Benjamin (3)

45: Aaron Joseph (R) (6)


If you don't agree with the order, consider this:

Carrots couldn't push any of these guys from this centre line out of the team. Simpson (6) Gibbs (6) Stevens (6)

He seriously couldn't push either of these guys from the centre square. Judd (6) Murphy (6)

A small possibility on replacing young Grigga in the back pocket, but Shauns composure, marking ability and accurate passing gets him the nod over other hopefuls. No chance of doing what Walks is capable of and Bagpipes is probably a better sweeper than Skinny was. 3 very reliable defenders which will all push forward during the season Grigg (3-6) Walker (3-6) Scotland (3-6)

We need utility type players who can be moved around like chess pieces to do a job required for the team. Houlihan (5-6)can play back forward and even have a run on the ball. I still think he is an outside reciever, however his disposal is second to none in this squad. Those couple of bullet like passes on Saturday night were sublime. Hadley (5-6) played in the Lions last premiership side as Mr. Everywhere. He also can plug holes. He reads the play very well. He can do the defensive sweeping role, he is a goal kicker and most importantly he is an inside blocker and feeder. Just what Judd needs.

Interchange: Bentick (6) Now this is where most people see Carrots fitting in the role that AB has filled for the past few seasons. AB is unique in the number of tackles he gets through in a game (not wavy wavy arms stuff, like a few we got) as well as the number of times he is first to the pill at the stoppages. Just look at the AFL season stats. His hand disposal is as good as any. Carrots has not demonstrated that he can play this role let alone challenge AB for it. Think back 3 weeks before AB was injured and didn't play in the SA game or since. We had a trial at PP. It only went for an hour or so, but was pretty serious as the boys were all trying to impress the MC to get a berth in the Freo game. AB got over 30 possies and was adjudged BOG.

Emergency: Pfeiffer (3-6) The young croweater could just be the steal of the summer. Aside from getting run off his feet against the Dawks, he did superbly against Port and Freo. Once again his size, speed, flexibility and accuracy puts him slightly ahead of other aspirants.

If you can fit Andy Carrazzo into our best 25, tell me who he replaces and why. Don't just write a critique of my post and say he won the Club B&F, so must be in the side. Teaguey, McKernan and Whittas all fell away after winning it. I think Carrots is made of sterner stuff and is a fitness nut, but we are developing a bunch of kids who are following the lead set by Andy Walks, the Irish boys and now Juddy wjhen it comes to gut busting running. In the end it will be about skills. Unfortunately Carrots can't kick accurately even when not under pressure and some of his hospital handballs just will not cut it at the elite level. He gets plenty of the red thing on the fringe of packs and often gets away from his man (although rarely tagged), but just doesn't hurt the opposition; cause he turns it over too many times.

shocking post

Did you go to any games last year?
His kicking is better than it has been. He is not the best kick and never will be but everyone forgets the positives.
The guy does not panic. The number of times he was tackled and his strength forced two or three opposing players towards him and he found a teammate free was gold.
I could name 40 players before given Carrazzo a serve. He is a dam fine player. To say Carrazzo succumbs to pressure is one of the most stupid comments I have ever read on this website.
Carrazzo isnt a Agrade mid fielder but he is not far off it. If it wasnt for him we would have lost to the Bulldogs in that game.

And unlike Waite, Bower, Murphy and anyone else on our list who are shit kicks Carrazzo has improved in this skill area from a few years ago.

Its unbelievable that someone would post a topic on trading this guy as I have noticed.
Get off the guys back.

I'd be thinking about Jacobs as the other rookie who is allowed to play like Jamison.
The Hawks highlighted an ongoing weak area in our team and that is rucking especially at the centre bounce.
Hampson needs genuine assistance and while I admire Clokes work around the ground and his work ethic he is too small vs giants like Campbell and Taylor. Not much point having great mids if they dont get first use of the footy and are chasing tail...

While Jacobs isnt athletic he is awkward with good size and would prevent other ruckman dominating at ruck contests..
I wouldnt run with Jacobs perhaps in every game but if Hampson does go down for whateva reason or has a bad game we need a proper backup.

I'm not so keen to throw Kruezer into the ruck and have him knocked around and feel he is better part time ruck /ruck partime forward....

what we have to remember people is the obvious!!
we have 22 spots and we can only fill 15 of them.
thats right and thats the reality!!!!!
no bentick, banno, saddington, betts, wiggins, thornton, Ackland and carrazzo is a ?
russell, grigg, bower, hartlett, ewards and jackson are still to impress.
no fevola no forward line. week in week out we have the most score kicked against us.
we lack a small forward who kicks goals and applys forward line pressure, we need a chf, we need a hard defender.
hammer will grow but will struggle if not well supported.[cloke is not the answer].
plain and simple, if you disagree please tell me which club would pick up and of the above names[hawthorn can have thornton, makes far too many errors].

The competition doesn't work like that. No team has the best players in each category, it's the strength of the team as a whole thats more important. Sure there are players that won't find a home in other teams, but that is the same on every list, simply the salary and draft doesn't allow for it.
We haven't developed our players and so it is too early to call the chop on some of them, lets ride out the years and get 30+ games into some of these guys; then and only then can you make a call on whether they will make it or not.
FWIW I believe that any team has 6 blokes or so that wouldn't find a spot in another team it's how the other 16+ players performs that either exposes them or hides them.....