I don't see why Simmo wouldn't be confortable telling Judd or Stevens what to do. Besides knowing Judd Simmo won't need to tell Judd what to do because he'll put in the hard work regardless.

Besides Simmo didn't have any problems leading a team with Fevola, and Scotland last year. Fev even said he was surprised and impressed at how Simmo handled it.

Simmo isn't that young anymore. He's a senior player now, member of the leadership group and has the respect of the player group. Judd on the other hand has only been through the door for five seconds and doesn't really want the job. Simmo is captain for mine, you don't always have to go with the superstar.

For the past five years we've been screaming the house down for someone to put their hand up and lead.

After a long line of spectacular failures Simmo emerged from the wilderness and displayed heart and passion that we haven't seen for too long.

How you could not reward his efforts last year with the Captaincy permanently is beyond me.

VOTE 1 SIMMO

KADE08

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Chris Judd is a 24 year old premiership captain, one of the best 3 players in the competition, and he's signed on to play out the rest of his career at Carlton with the intention of helping mould our playing group into a premiership force.

On the training track, who will the players look towards? Simmo, Stevo or Judd? In the heat of battle, who'll be the player most capable of lifting the team? Simmo, Stevo or Judd?

I seriously fail to see any reason why we wouldn't make him captain. Sure, he's only been in the door 5 minutes, but the important thing is he'll be at Carlton until he retires.

It's Judd by an absolute mile.

OK, I was just putting my opinion forward (and what Brett Ratten has said). Could you try to be a bit more civil next time? Internet forums have a way of filtering out the tone of your thoughts and all I can see is the words you type.

What's more, Ratten has said many times that the playing group will vote on the captain. I don't know what happened last year, but that's irrelevant to this year. Either the process has changed, or Lance Whitnall commanded more respect amongst the players than previously believed. I believe the process has changed. By the way, what was with the "someone tried to tell you" thing?

I am of the understanding that the players will vote on the captaincy in February as far as I know, and it will be out of a leadership group that the coaching staff (or the higher powers ) will put together around a similar time.

Last year it was Pagan or the MC at the time who decided the way a captain would be selected.

This year Ratten and the MC will decide how the captain will be selected.

Clearly different, so to say the players didn't select the captain last year is irrelevant to this season.

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I'm not aware that Ratten has said many times that the playing group will decide the captaincy. Where did you hear that?

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/Season2007/ ... wsId=53191



My reading of that is he and maybe the MC will make the decison, as it's always been. Certainly last year it was Pagan & maybe some members of the MC who wanted Whitnall but not the players, who didn't respect him enough or believe he set a good enough example with his preparation, as I would have thought was well known by now. That was first raised here a year ago but disbelieved by many at that time, though from your joining date you wouldn't have been here then.

And I don't know what "Internet forums have a way of filtering out the tone of your thoughts and all I can see is the words you type" means but I'm just telling you that AFAIK the players won't be deciding the captaincy and definitely haven't in the past. If it's to be changed, I'm not aware of that.

Geez, some people are getting very stroppy these days...


Definitely should be up to the leadership group to recommend a captain to the board IMO.

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Well, I concede. I've searched and searched and found no evidence to back my story up. In fact, I'm now not so sure who said it, but I believe I read or heard Brett Ratten or Greg Swann say that the playing group would vote on the captaincy in February.

However, from what Ratten has said in that article it seems you are correct. I guess the question is who he refers to when he says "we", and one would think he means the MC/Board. They'd be silly not to take the players opinions into account, at least the leadership group's.

I'd vote for Simmo as well, with a leadership group that includes C5J, N24S, and M3M. Stevo's injury is career-ending, as shown by Joey (Newcastle Knights NRL) Johns and as also discussed elsewhere on this discussion board. It would be like giving it to Lance last year - he'd just go out during the year and we'd have to have a revolving door policy again. Give it to Simmo - he did well last year. Murph is too young for it (only 35 games) and Judd, whilst he is the best player in the league, still has to "prove himself": give it to him in a year or two if it comes up again. Let him captain the club to the next premiership

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tough decision IMO

Simpson should be considered but i would prefer to see him as a vice captain. I think its between Judd and Stevens. I would prefer Stevens got it, only because i dont think Judd needs any added pressure, even though he has captained a team before. Stevo if fit for mine.