Small potatos.

As I mentioned if Samuels had the guts and intestinal fortitude for a real investigation - he could go after the cartels that rip off the Australian Public to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars per year - retail/oil.

Obviously the executives at Woolworths and Coles are made of higher moral fibre than those of Amcor and Visy.

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Winston Churchill

I'm thinking that perhaps Samuels is executing Evans' dying wish

"Destroy the Carlton football club"

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY

Getting back to the charge of "bringing the game into disrepute", I, in my former life dealt with this at a high level in another sport. Trying to actually define what constitutes bringing the game into direpute is a minefield!

They may be able to find Cousins guilty but I think they would be on thin ice as he technically has not done anything illegal with all of this drug business. He has a "health issue" which is hardly grounds for bringing the game into disrepute. The only thing none of us know are the contract conditions of being an AFL registered player (unless someone does). The media claims he has underworld connections, he did run away from a booze bus but that has been dealt with, he was arrested in Perth in the middle of the day but the charges were dropped. Give Cousins a good legal team and the AFL could have one arm tied behind their back.

When it comes to Sir Richard - lets face it - he ripped us all off but has now paid close the highest penalty he could under the law - in fact the penalty was exactly what the ACCC recommended. However, none of this can be linked the bringing the game of AFL into disrepute. If he had of come out and said that "the AFL and the Commission are sea hunts" or attacked Samuels by saying "he is still hung up about his days with the AFL and is still trying to bring us down with his connections inside AFL HQ" then he would have a case to answer.

As for the media, they are just a bunch of ego chasing tosspots. The amount of times you give them a press release with all the vital information on it and they still manage to flower it up is amazing. What is that saying....never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

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All hail the might and power of Sir Richard....putting Carlton back to where it should be.............arrogant and talking of premierships again.

Dick hasn't ripped me off. I reckon considering what he's done for my club, I'm well ahead.

As for the 19,400,000 Australians who DON'T barrack for Carlton. Well, in the immortal words of Stephen Kernahan, @#$%&! 'em.

My understanding is that the cartel was between 2001-04. Therefore it wouldn't current anyway.

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1945 - End of round 3 Carlton was last.

Last round Carlton made the final four for the first time.

Eventual premiers.

That's what I'm talking about!

Well lets be fair here and identify an organization that has ripped off nearly every AFL Supporter and Member that walks into a stadium that it caters for and that is:

SPOTLESS CATERING - and its erstwhile MD and CHAIRMAN RON EVANS


No mention from the Sporting Media about Ron's fitness to hold a position as AFL Chairman while ripping off the sporting public - with blatant PRICE GOUGING.

500 Ml Bottled water - Spotless Cost Price 50cents - Sale Price $4.00 - the 800% mark up would be justified because

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

I reckon its $4.90.

They can't charge him with bringing the game into disrepute. We are attracting sponsors, fans and starplayers like there's no tomorrow. There is no disrepute.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

AGRO,

seems these issues can disappear if need be.

What's Rick Lewis...former investigator doing nowadays?...he disappeared very quickly after saying that he knew about the WCE drugs tapes but was asked not to take it further....then suddenly Poof! (just like magic!)

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Greg Lee

A lucky guess?

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY

Small potatos.

bring on the commission hearing ..... more than happy to see Andy D and the AFL deal with real players like Pratt ... might expose the simple fact that the psuedo legal system of the league is no match for the real thing.

Might just open the can of worms on restraint of trade once and for all ....

once Andy D is legally neutered and without his organ grinder, he might just realise who his friends really are

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S M C , S F L

Goes to reputation.

And clearly Ron Evans was phoney, fraud, rip-off merchant, corrupt and a liar.

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Winston Churchill

Surely it is up to the carlton members to decide whether Dick has brought disrepute onto the club. As an non-elected director , I would imagine he'll be up for election at the next AGM. Its our call.

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I vote, therefore I am !

our right to call Andy D's bluff

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Visy & Amcor were both guilty of price fixing. Both companies made a shitload of money.

One squealled like a stuck pig.....the other got fined $36 mill.

Pratt's association with the Blues Revival has made him a tall poppy of the highest order.

Can anyone name the other guilty party's CEO??? Nobody cares.

Dick stuffed up.....Dick paid his $36 mill.....end of story!!!

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The Empire Strikes Back

I can't recall hearing that Pratt has been summoned to appear before the AFL Commission at next Monday's meeting as reported by Channel Eddie.
Might happen on Friday

Or would this be another Ch 9 beat up

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Cheats never prosper (except in the AFL)

Ch 9 beat up

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“Every single element of the Club has to be the best in the league, meticulously and methodically, and only by doing this will we be elite and challenge for number 17.”
Greg Lee

As someone who has better knowledge than anyone on here about the ACCC investigation that has left Richard Pratt with a big fine and a bigger one on the way and will tarnish Amcor as a badly run company who will pay a bigger price than most 'whistleblowers' - it's amazing how accurate some people have been on this site! Well done!

Some guy on SEN tonight said it best............................

The AUS$ is at an all-time high.
Oil is DOWN US$7 a barrel.
But Petrol rose by $0.14c today?????????????????

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