Well if thats true, hes got the job

Unless they all need to have 4 out of 4 votes on the next coach, which l doubt.

Thanks Molly

I am certainly not anti Ratten. As a longtime Carlton supporter (more than 30 years) I believe there is no quick fix to our problems and that everything needs to be considered.

If Ratten gets the job then he is obviously the best one for the job as I believe that Swann, Icke and Co will make the BEST choice and I will support him 100%.

My whole basis for my post was that I am sick of Carlton being a laughing stock in the AFL and I want us to return to being the power of the league both on and off field and to do this we need to think outside the square and not just go with popular opinion.

Also in regards to the PP it worries me that people will accept their team losing just to pick up one particular player. Honourable loses is not what this club is about. I think it is more important to get our recruiting and development in order. Go through all the number one picks and I bet I can list many names that were picked up late in drafts or as rookies that have been better players (Dean Cox for example)

According to his bio, Bond was appointed to his current role on the back of two years coaching Werribee, getting them to the finals in his second year.

Based on that criteria, Barry Mitchell should be a shoe-in for the job

He learnt what a coach has to do time management wise from those guys. Tactically Ratts is his own man who will bring many new drills and his own gameplan with him.

I am a big Ratten fan.

FWIW I think he is a very good communicator, which makes him a good teacher.

I have seen he approaches all players, does not neglect anyone, and chooses not to tell players off but to teach them.

I also remember a Bullants game where he attended. Affer Mitchell’s talk he took a few players aside and gave them tips.

He seems to have the respect, and has gotten the players to play a new game plan (which is working well) under a short period of time!

Being a Carlton man also helps

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Young coaches aren't necessarily clones of who they 'learnt' under are they?

Tactical dimwits won't miraculously become coaching geniuses under a guru and vice versa.

Players, apart from someone like Hird, would normally be exposed to a number of coaches along the way and therefore have different ingredients added to their own coaching philosophies.

I hope we hire the best candidate for the coaching position but surely who they have coached under won't be an overriding factor in the decision.

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Look. I want the BEST coach for the CFC
Someone who can tick all the boxes-
Ratts comes very close to doing just that, Ill be honest. But I just think Bond might have a sharper coaching mind then Ratts-
I understand none of us can really judge as we werent in the interview room, but Bond from afar strikes me as someone who is better able to shape our list from a pragmatic point of view (ie: he holds no loyalties to anyone) than Ratts might.
Its just a gut feel I have and I hope to hell Im proven very wrong..

Can someone tell me exactly who at the club makes the final call?

Icke?
Swann?
Pratt?
Board vote?

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ratten will be a very good coach for many years to come..he will coach a carlton premiership team

blueman is that you !?!?!?!?!?

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

you can borrow my glasses if you like.

Just hope Ratts or whoever gets the gig shows Lance the door either by trade or delisting. As Wallsy rightly said last night it was a disgrace that Carlton had to send Lance away mid season to lose weight.

One new assistant who I wouldn't mind seeing at Carlton with Ratten is Gerard Healy. I don't disagree with a lot of what he says.

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There's so much I could say...

I'd just like to say it is a pleasure to see posters disagreeing with each other, but in a calm and reasonable manner.

I was beginning to think it was impossible..... So thank you all...from an exhausted mod, it is much appreciated! And sure makes it easier to read...


Now...



That about sums it up for me......


unless they appoint someone I can't stand!

I was a Voss fan and thought he would with the right team be a good fit but having seen Ratten over the last 3 weeks been very impressed in what he has achieved with limited preperation.

HE has changed the game plan for the players to hold possession and try to find the best oppertunity rather than blaze away into the goal square.
The bombing into the forward 50 cannot be erased in 3 weeks he will need to properly implement his plan into the 2008 Season (if he gets the gig)
Also he is currently working with Old Pagan Team which he was part of i am sure Ratten will change the Assistant coaches to the mix he would like to work with.
Having seen live the first 2 games he caoched the difference in how the players have played compared to how the team where playing under DP is massive. I have seen players smother / shephard protect the ball carrier. Definately far more intensity and team work from the team.
Tactically the team is playing with a purpose rather than kick it long and hope for the best. Still early days with Ratt but definately there is different look to the side.
Ratten speaks and is certainly more hands on which is what a young team needs and has been stated has a lot of respect.
If Ratten got the gig i would be pretty happy.
People are judging Ratten after 3 losses where we have been in a winning position this shows me we are not far off against sides all in or around the top 8. Remember the 5 weeks before Ratten we where belted by 10+ goals that over the last 3 weeks is a massive improvement and remember Ratten is only a care taker not the Permanent coach.

Bond would be in the mix but i still favour Ratten. Mckenna would be another option but Ratten so far has delivered what we have all wanted

The last 6 weeks we have asked Post Pagan to be competative to fight out matches to play with enthusiasm and with a spark so far Ratten has delivered.

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CFC TAC Squad everyone over 25 must be traded sounds like Loguns Run

I was just thinking that so many successful Coaches have been labelled as "aggressive" players when they played.

Barassi....Hafey....Sheedy.....Jeans....Matthews....Nicholls....Kennedy.....Worsfold....and now Clarkson....Mark Thompson....Mark Williams.....Dean Laidley.....Parkin....Malthouse etc.

Yes; I know there's probably just as many ball players too like Blight and......Roos and.....?...... but I thought it was interesting.

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I'm not desperate for Ratten as coach. I think Bond would be great too. However I don't think it would be a mistake appointing Ratten. He may not have years of coaching experience, but I think tactically he will be a great coach.

He was an awesome centreman/onballer for many years. That is a positiion on the field where you really do see all aspects of the game and get a very good perspective of the modern game - unlike the old school back pocket (Pagan style). Ratts was a member of the blues leadership team when they were coming up with game plans themselves back in the late 1990s. I remember Parkin giving a lot of credit to the senior blues players for taking ownership of game planning and tactics back in the good ol' days. Ratten would have been a big part of it. Ratts seems to be a deep analytical thinker and I have the faith that (tactically) he will be extremely forward thinking.

I agree with alot of what you have said he was an awesome player who seemed to do better the tougher the game. Time will tell if he is to be a 'great' coach. In todays game he will need to surround himself with some great assistants and a topline reserves coach who will work with him.

This is as important as the appointment of a senior coach!!!

I would like to see Ratten (or Bond) appoint the 'Best' in their fields to assist him whilst also getting away from employing purely Carlton people or mates.

Some suggestions might be:

Defensive Coach: Glenn Archer

Midfield Coach: Anthony Rock

Forwards Coach: Chris Grant

Opposition Analyst: John Blakey

Reserves Coach: Peter Dean

Development Coach: David Dickson

Just some thoughts, anyone else got some suggestions on this??

Im glad to see others agree with me.

However, earlier on I did notice a degree of skepticism about things I have stated.

I do think that when the international security situation starts to deteriorate and become much more unstable than it is now, people that might have thought this way will think differently.

Perhaps Winfield blue can open a post in the appropriate area and share his views in the with us on how the way that this will occur.

Then I could counter by telling you how we are all headed for peace, love and eternal happiness.

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OI..........

Blueman.......................................stop being so pessimistic.........!


kindest regards tommi

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