Yeah at least he got a couple right the rest are way off

..you don't trade Fisher.. ..he's extremely hard to match up on, takes consistent contested marks and has been averaging 2/3 goals per game for pretty much most of the season.. ..and he leads up the ground quite good as well.. ..the big red as much as i like hasn't got much of a chance for next year i'm afraid..

..now, in regards to Fev.. ..he is easily, easily a tonne a year goalkicker in even a mediocre side.. ..and next year we can aimn for mediocrity..heh.. ..a sad truth.. ..but in all seriousness Fev cracks the sads out of sheer fustration.. ..sure i know that's little excuse for his childish antics but he's carried the team for the past four of five years.. ..we'd be lucky to have won half the games we have over that time if we didn't have him..

..look at teams with good defences and midfields, a'la eagles and bulldawgs.. ..both are teams screaming for a quality FF.. ..we've got a weak spine as a team, we're crying out for a strong FB, and now ppl are considering trading our FF.. ..ppl are yabbering on about Fev not being in the team when we're challenging for our next flag.. ..i reckon without Fev we won't be challenging for shizen..

..you'll see a new Fev next year.. ..namely a better midfield and with him now getting better support from fellow forwards (see Fisher) he'll be awesome.. ..also note that next year any Fev shenannigans will see him dropped from the team and he knows this.. ..he knows he's at a new club.. ..and ultimately, we need his passion.. ..just this passed weekend the delivery he was getting was fantastic, some of the best in a very long time.. ..with that midfield support Fev will be the oppositions biggest headache..

..it's strange, with all the scientific and medical research going into the game, with the high levels of professionalism and full-time players etc etc etc.. ..long distance kicking accuracy with FF's hasn't improved much over say the last score years.. ..and Fev can reliably kick goals from outside the fifty day in day out.. ..and you just can't trade for that.... ..and Judd isn't worth that.. ..the steeenkin' eagles have Judd, Cousins, Kerr, Braun, Embley etc etc and those poor bastards kill themselves week in and week out cos Lynch isn't a pimple on Fev's hairy buttocks.. ..teams like the eagles and dogs rely on their midfield to kick goals.. ..we trade Fev, and we'll need to rely on the same.. ..and our midfield ain't there yet.. ..we get rid of Fev and they won't get there either..

Jolly wasn't a first rounder trade neither was Everitt

neither were any of these guys McGuane, McKernhan, Devenport, Justin Charles

If we are serious about being a premiership contender in 5 years, the strategic and unemotional decision is to trade Fevola now. You trade Fev not because of his antics but because he is a star at the height of his powers and he will not be there for the Carlton Football Club when it has the chance to challenge in September. He is 27 next year. We are highly unlikely to play finals in the next 2 years, so that makes him 29 plus when we start to ascend. Added to that our young stocks are short of Key position talent. Our current list of young players has Hartlett, Kennedy and Austin as the only genuine KPP prospects (Hampson, Aisakie, Jacobs are Ruckmen). None of those players are guaranteed to make it. IF we could trade him for pick 8 and 15, the foundation is set for a tilt at a premiership in 5 years time. Fevola is the best pure full forward Carlton has produced but I prefer pure premierships and trading him is the key to winning number 17

I remember when everyone was wondering out loud "WTF???" when the Swans gave up their first pick for Jolly. Time makes fools of us all I guess...

Whitall will land a 2nd rounder?
You have confidence in our negotiators?
Whitnall youd be lucky to get a fourth rounder for... even if you had Jimmy Carter negotiating for you.

I am really torn over the Fev question - to keep or trade.

I love the way he plays and I can't think of a forward for us that has kicked as well outside 50 as he does. But the one thing that I keep thinking about is Richo at Richmond - for years I have believed that they should have traded him when they had the chance, they rely very heavily on him to be competitive and without him winning the ball they are crap - this has been for a prolonged period of time.

My question is - will we be any different? Am I being hypocritical bagging Richmond (re Richo) when we may be doing the same thing with Fev???

I don't understand how you can compare Jolly to Fev lol

Theres a bit of a difference. One is a superstar in the league and the other one is not.

One is the best forward in the league and the other is a ruckman that l hear bugger all about except is a good tap ruckman. I dont think its too hard to find a good tap ruckman.

They jump up in the air and tap the ball to a player. But finding a coleman medalist that can win a game on his own is hard to find!!!

Don't understand your logic. Get rid of a player that you need otherwise your crap, so you get crapper?

Doesnt matter anyway mate, Fev aint going anywhere unless he asks for a trade and his manager said he doesnt want a trade

Yep, that worked with Richmond keeping Richo, I'm not saying we should trade him, hell he is the only thing that has given us joy recently. I just hope that in 5 years time we don't look back and wonder what would have happened....

If Ratten is coach next year Fev will be at Carlton. Ratten has said he wants Fev in the team next year.

Unless we get a top 3 AFL player like Judd or Pavilich, Fev isnt going anywhere. We can not risk trading Fev for low picks even if a club offer us two first rounder I wouldn't swap that for Fev.

Yet another new coach at Carlton seems to have saved Fev again.

Where dont u understand Fev cant be traded if he doesn't ask for a trade or approve a trade

He can only be fired or played in the bullants all year if a new coach doesnt want Fev. No coach would play a 500k in the bench all season if he wants to keep his job.

Fev decides his own fate, no one else at Carlton