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And Princess. :wink:

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When DP (that's the president DP, not the other DP) came on board his likely tenure was said to be 1-2 years. Apart from all the great work we keep hearing about in regards to the off-field infrastructure and staff appointments, what succession plans have been put in place to cover the eventual stepping down of Richard Pratt?


Oh, camelboy, what's this? A repeated question? Not from you, surely.

Anywho, that's all from me. But I do see a foot in your mouth. :P


Just keeping you on your toes. :lol:

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1) Is has been said our footy dept was way behind many if not most afl clubs, we have seen some improvements ie. dietician but
how far behind were/are we and what further appointments (positions not names) do we need to be on a level playing field with other afl clubs?

2) Given what we know now and hindsight, would any other coach have been able to give us significently better results than we have had under Denis since 2003? (sorry this is very subjective)

3) How are our players realtionships with the entire coaching staff? are there issues that need to be addressed or are causing major concern for the club?


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Several board members were elected earlier this year, and one of their 'platforms' was to ensure that no one would have a conflict of interest between the Board and the Football Department.

Three related questions:

1. Given the above, why does Stephen Kernahan still sit on the Board AND the Football Department, a clear conflict of interest?

2. Does the Board realise that there are many supporters who believe that Kernahan has been the common denominator behind a series of disastrous onfield and off-field decisions / situations, and that he has stood by every one of them at the time, only to 'confess' later that the decision / situation was completely inappropriate?

3. I understand he has been re-elected, but surely he must take some responsibility for this regardless?

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How can you justify keeping Pagan at the helm as long as he has considering his bad record while at Carlton ?

I hope the board realises that keeping Pagan will have a disastrous effect on membership next year as we members are tired of all the on field going ons. We simply have no game plan and have made minimal improvement while he has been here..... While other teams such as Collingwood, Hawthorn and NorthMelbourne soldier on even without their best players. Their lists are not better than ours by much, yet they play together as a team and are disciplined with a game plan to suit them. Pagan simply cannot do anything further with our list and needs to be moved on. We need an outside Carlton person and fresh ideas.


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Siegfried wrote:
1. Given the above, why does Stephen Kernahan still sit on the Board AND the Football Department, a clear conflict of interest?


were you a backman Siegfried or just not a fan of forwards in general ... :wink:


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At seasons end will there be a full review of the footy dept and the club operations?

If so, what guarantees will there be that the club will show due dilligance and not make emotive decisions?

Onfield leaderships is a concern for us- at the end of 2006 geelong undertook a full review of their club. 1 area they addressed was leadership and since then the club have put their entirte leadsership group through a leadership program.

1) have our players been involved in any leadsership programs?
2) Are they likely to be involved in leadership programs?
3) has the club spoken to Geelong about their leadership program or identified the leadership programs that they undertook?

can you pls explain our process for selecting a captain?
who and what is involved in the selection of candidates?
who and what is involved in the decision?
who has the final decision? senior coach, match committee, board etc

will the club consider placing 16 STARS on our gurnsey to signify the number of premierships the club has won- like they do in world football (soccer)
remined the players each week of our proud history and a bit of feel good story.

does the footy dept have a goalkicking coach or is each assistant responsible for their groups goalkicking?

from a clubs perspective how many years did the events of 2002 set the club back?


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Now that we have a record membership of 35000 and this season is quickly turning into another disaster, the club needs to build on this membership record.

!. Is the club going to do more promotion to keep Carlton in the news over the summer months?
This would keep the members/potential members interest up , eg. sausage sizzles/meet the players/footy clinics and make them free.

2. Is the club going to increase the number of full time scouts in Victoria and interstate?

3. Are we still looking at potential Irish recruits?

4. The Gardiner Stand is to be demolished in August will any of the wrought iron work be retained in some form as a link to the past?

5. Should a family day be held prior to the demolition so people can have one last look?


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Question

What is the exact timeline for the redevelopment of M C Labour Park? What has been done so far in relation to player facilities? What is planned to further develop the Football Department in relation to the redevelopment?

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My questions:

Did the incoming members of the Board gain access to the Watts report? If so, are we acting on its recommendations or were they targeted more at the previous Board?

What do Stephen, Mark (and Zac if he is present) feel are the three most important off field issues on which we need to now concentrate in order to catch up and surpass Collingwood and Essendon* in terms of revenue and income?


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How about when is denis seeing the door?

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How about when is denis seeing the door?


Just a quick point on this one.

That type of question won't be making it to the Q&A session.

Obviously Mark Stephen and Zac can't answer questions like this so please stick to something more realistic.

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will the club consider placing 16 STARS on our gurnsey to signify the number of premierships the club has won- like they do in world football (soccer)
remined the players each week of our proud history and a bit of feel good story.

I love this idea.

16 stars, or cups, or flags, or years (eg. 79, 81, 82, 87, 95) on the guernsy would be great.

Unfortunately I can't envisage the AFL letting us do this.

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Lurker Blue wrote:
BIBI01 wrote:
will the club consider placing 16 STARS on our gurnsey to signify the number of premierships the club has won- like they do in world football (soccer)
remined the players each week of our proud history and a bit of feel good story.

I love this idea.

16 stars, or cups, or flags, or years (eg. 79, 81, 82, 87, 95) on the guernsy would be great.

Unfortunately I can't envisage the AFL letting us do this.


off the original topic but the club may be able to get around this by having NIKE stratigically implement it in its design.

i have seen shirt designers have pictures or logo's in their shirt and it liiks liek a background. hard to describe but i think most people know what i am trying to say.


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How is the club dealing with the younger generation who are seeing this club losing week in and week out?
My first memory of football was seeing the blues win the 95' grandfinal...and now, there are millions of kids around australia who have seen the blues finish 16th, 15th, 16th and 16th across 5 seasons. I know there is such things as family tradition and 'true blue's', but the fact is...watching a club win is what shapes young kid's minds....there is no doubt there WILL be a supporter gap in the current generation as they grow older....

what plans are there to combat this hole?


Still one of the better questions I've seen asked.

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The 16 stars is an awesome idea!!! That would really get the numpties down at Saintsational frothing at the bit!!! If we did this and somehow got away with it there would be an absolute stampede of clubs clawing over each other to copy us (not that Fremantle would have too much to worry about!). This is the kind of innovation that we used to be famous for.

The 16 stars could be very inconspicuous/small, maybe even have them as small, 'cant see em unless the light hits the right way' bits within the CFC logo on the chest.

I dont know about being visible on the telly/game day, but if I knew we had a guernesy with the 16 hidden stars on it, 1 for every premiership, I'd be right out to the Carlton Shop to order 1 for me and 1 for each of the kids!!! Otherwise I'll keep the trusty ones that I already have.

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The stars idea, if we are to borrow this from soccer, would have to be 23 stars not 16.
Can't see the AFL allowing it anyway.


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The Shag wrote:
How is the club dealing with the younger generation who are seeing this club losing week in and week out?
My first memory of football was seeing the blues win the 95' grandfinal...and now, there are millions of kids around australia who have seen the blues finish 16th, 15th, 16th and 16th across 5 seasons. I know there is such things as family tradition and 'true blue's', but the fact is...watching a club win is what shapes young kid's minds....there is no doubt there WILL be a supporter gap in the current generation as they grow older....

what plans are there to combat this hole?


As an addition to this question …

One of the only things keeping the young generation interested in the Blues has been the on field and off field (where he is tremendous with the younger supporters) work of Brendan Fevola. He is a unique personality (as flawed as some may say he is) that contributes to his standing as a superstar of the game. Many of this generation of players are seen as being homogenised and stale (although wholesome) and whilst this is a great marketing tool for parents, these characters appeal is limited somewhat for children when compared to the enigmatic personality of a Fevola.

How do the club see us as being able to maintain memberships and public interest if it were to trade what is our most valuable commodity in a marketing sense. I am of the opinion that we would have members and supporters jump off in droves if we moved Fev on. How do the board feel about this outcome and the possible fallout it would unleash?


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sorry to continue the stars topic here, but I just wanted to say that you could have 8 small ones down each side or as mentioned previously faintly printed somehow in the background - ie. slightly lighter blue imprint

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BIBI01 wrote:
Lurker Blue wrote:
BIBI01 wrote:
will the club consider placing 16 STARS on our gurnsey to signify the number of premierships the club has won- like they do in world football (soccer)
remined the players each week of our proud history and a bit of feel good story.

I love this idea.

16 stars, or cups, or flags, or years (eg. 79, 81, 82, 87, 95) on the guernsy would be great.

Unfortunately I can't envisage the AFL letting us do this.


off the original topic but the club may be able to get around this by having NIKE stratigically implement it in its design.

i have seen shirt designers have pictures or logo's in their shirt and it liiks liek a background. hard to describe but i think most people know what i am trying to say.


That sure is hard to describe, you're even having trouble spelling it!!! :-D


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Whether it be this year or down the track, Denis Pagan will eventually move on as coach of Carlton.

Can Stephen and Mark give an undertaking that the club will implement a comprehensive and exhaustive selection process to select the next senior coach.
This process could/should include external assessments and a predetermined criteria that all candidates should be assessed by. In my opinion, there should be at least 5 candidates invited to apply.

I have a concern that we will make a rushed decision based on reputation or the need to sign up a candidate due to "market pressure".

This appointment will be the most significant in my lifetime following the club. We have a young and talented list that deserves every opportunity to fulfill their potential and the possibility of decisions based on insufficient processes are a real concern.


That's not a question mate... it's an opinion piece. Almost a rant.



Admit it. :)

Why don't you just say - "I don't like Pagan, I hope he won't be coaching these young guys until they retire - and I'm worried that when he *hopefully* leaves we will have a dud (like Grant Thomas) to take over a core of players that could hold up a premiership cup...


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