I disagree Jarusa... the circus we saw the first 48 hours of this would have been replicated on Thursday night, Friday and Saturday. And would have totally derailed the club's preparation for the Melbourne match. This way, everyone has their two cents worth early on in the week and the media moves on (even if we don't).

The stories on Fev the last day or so aren't about Carlton, they're about linking other clubs to Fev. The circus has left PP. The rest of the group gets on with the preparation for Melbourne. There's no easy way of taking action of this type with your marquee player. I think the club has picked the best option of an ordinary bunch. and let's not forget who it was who put them in a position where a decision had to be made (and it did - that much is clear).

It would be great if the media was out at cramer st watching Fevola play for the ressies.

Much better than what will happen next week when Fevola is allowed to come back to the club.

There is no way a standard dropping of a player could cause as much media and speculation than an early week suspension and not only a suspension but being banned from the club itself.

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I haven't read through everything posted recently so not sure if this article has been linked/discussed:

Blues extend ban to cyberspace

Something about it, I dunno, to go to such extremes, it sounds like Fevola is well and truely gone.

The reason the membership graphic was removed would have been because the membership drive is finished now that June 30 has ticked over. The membership graphic can be seen on other parts of the sites, but they will probably be replaced with Kouta testimonial graphics or similar soon.

The replacement of the stats part though is interesting. The goals information has been there all year, for it to be replaced does seem more than coincidental.

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verbs I wouldn't read too much into that article.

I'm thinking like an economist in terms of scarcity of resources.

There are only so many column inches and airtime of footy news each week.

It is just common sense that the effect and impact of a particular story will be greater when stories are scarce in the quietest time of the week (big fish in small pond) as opposed to when stories and plentiful in the busy time of the week (big fish in big pond).

It is also common sense that a suspension is a greater punishment than merely being dropped from a team.

Add both of those together and you have a story that is made much bigger than it otherwise would have been.

The club either designed it in a way to get maximum exposure or never thought it through.

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Most Blues approved of Pratt and of Swann's appointment. Amazing how so many think they have lost the plot by expecting Fev to act like an adult.

I doubt he'll be at Carlton next year. I don't think the press conference was an accident. Dropping would be a waste if he hasn't improved his attitude despite loads of counselling. Just a chance for him to be a bad example to young players. As for it being DPs fault - really, he would be the last to risk a loss by dropping Fev. The one good thing DP has done is to get Fev to approach footy professionally for reasonable periods over the last five years. DP wanted to retain Carey, it was the players who got rid of him.

As for our actions changing his trade value. Do people really think other clubs don't get replays of other teams. Who doesn't know Fev's faults? He hardly tries to hide them. If he is contrite and pulls his head in for the rest of the season do we take the chance that he will not relapse, because at the end of next year he can walk for nothing. Maybe the decision to trade has been made. They think in the short term he will knuckle down which will improve his trade value. Everything points to him being gone.

DP is a dead man walking and a new coach doesn't want to have bad influences in a young side regardless of their talent. We are 5 years from serious contention, and only then if our young players in the Ants come on which is not guaranteed. Fev will be 31 then, players we draft next year will be 22/3.

Various posters who were pro Pagan in the beginning rejoiced when he got rid of alleged bludgers and trouble makers and claimed the club had bowed to player culture too long. Not sure that is right but now when similar action is taken the same posters want a different set of rules.

For Fev to really use his talent he needs to be at a club with a strong senior culture - Swans or Crows. I don't reckon he will be here in 08. I think he will do well at the right club. I think we will be better without him in the long run. I think it is a pity he has to act like the petulant indulged star of the U12s. I wish he could place the team before himself and be an all time great. But that aint going to happen.

I think the definitive word on all this was from Caz who is about the only person on here who has a real in at the club despite what several others claim. Caz never abuses what inside knowledge he has and never uses it to bignote. I reckon his judgement on it is based far closer to fact than anyone else. The main thing is that we get really good draft picks for him and use them well.

I guess that depends on the objective of their actions. For example - they may have decided that Fev's sooking in all football related matters was having a negative impact on the kids. Following on from that, they may want to see how the list responds without Fev being there. Dropping him won't give them that opportunity, whereas getting him out of the club for a week does. There's no doubt at all, they've put the club before Fev's sensitivities in this matter - given how selfish Fev has generally acted he should understand this better than most.

Either way, a marquee player being disciplined with missing a game is going to be huge news. We're not talking Steve Johnson here.

it was not about his form - so why lie?


it was about attitude to coaching staff and players - so why not ask him to consider it?

God the only people dribbling over this is us....we need this to keep this site bubbling on because hey, we're amateur journos of the worst kind, we hide behind our allegiance to the club to bag the shit out of it.

This site is our truck load of manure!

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I just can't see it that way J.

Never a problem. Hey, you can be Felix Unger and I'll be Oscar Madison.

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They probably aren't even considering a trade.....I think they want to keep him and the whole press conference thing may have been some added embarrassment for Fev...to maybe help him in pulling his socks up.

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Not sure I agree Jars.

Fev being dropped tonight wouldbe big news. The only thing that would compete with it is Rama's comeback.

Remember last week, Didak was all over the front and back of the papers on Friday and Saturday. Why? Because it's different and unusual and therefore more interesting in the eyes of editors than 1 of 22 rounds footy.

Same with Fevola being dropped. It would be front page news, there would be speculation about what this meant for his future at the Club, has Pagan lost belief in him, yada yada yada.

In short, no different to what happened, except closer to game time and more distracting.

At least this way, the Club has got onto the front foot, and there is actually very little foggy speculation, other than the potential casino story. The only debate as Danny said is on here.

In the 'real' world, the only talk is of which clubs are interestedin Fev, and I reckon that's a good thing.

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Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

... and the teams and the eight games of footy about to be played over three days.

There has been an awful lot of spin in this thread, which is a shame.

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The club wanted to make a point.

They wanted him removed completely from the club for 7 days.

What he chooses to do from there is next weeks news.

Really, on current form, does he deserve a place in the side? Playing for the Ants would have possibly resulted in a greater display of frustration and petulance.

The fact he has been banished is the greatest wake up call he could get. For someone who's career could have been over some 5 years ago, he sure takes some time to see the light. Whether he does this time or not, time will tell. Could it be possible that no one is interested in him at all come trade time?

Any side would be taking a risk....

Whoooaaaaa boy. That's a big call I agree totally.

Can we dump it down at Punt Rd?

Exactly, Danny!
If we lied we'd look as credible as Collingwood are at the moment.
Fev, the players & supporters are being told the truth.
let's not dress the eposide up as something else.
Some may not like what's happened to Fev but making difficult decisions can be unpopular but they still need to be made.

But being a Sunday game, the team doesn't need to be finalised until tomorrow night, so he could have been named in the squad and dropped realatively quietly tomoorow night, without it being publicised on TFS or Friday's papers. By that time most of the focus will be on Fri night's game (Rama comeback) and the games on Sat.

Playing alongside Teaguey and the kids would have been a much bigger statement!
And it would have given Fevola an opportunity to give something back.
It would have made his subject to the very same conditions anyone else would have been given.
This is childish and shortsighted!

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It would have been nothing short of an embarrassment to all, including Fev. If he had have finished with 3 goals, 1 goal etc. how could we promote him if its form based (which we know it isn't, its attitude). What if he did nothing? What if he cracked the sads again at the lower level? Way too risky, and pointless overall. It doesn't achieve what we want unless he kicks 12 goals in a faultless display.

He can give something back by turning up at the club on Monday repentant.