Err...ummm....

I'm really sorry. I still don't get it. I'm sorry. I really am. Perhpas a PM to explain and to avoid embarrassment on my part.

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Eventual premiers.

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Thanks 33.

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1945 - End of round 3 Carlton was last.

Last round Carlton made the final four for the first time.

Eventual premiers.

That's what I'm talking about!

Truth is I'm really an alterego of Lance Whitnall

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Sorry but Mooney kicked his few on Lance.. so did Hawkins and so did Ablett... everyone kicked a few on Lance....

Having said that.... it shouldnt be a petition.... but the MC should give him the big A...

But yeah... he did set the losing tone...

You cant be led by a loser and expect to be competitive... that by definition is not what winning is about..

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True but Thornton, O'Hailpin are not the captains. They are also not 150-200 game players. They also don't get near the same money as Lance.

He should know better. His gotten away with keeping his body in bad shape for too long now. He looks very unfit at the moment, even after the pre-season. This is no acceptable.

I do hope he gets back some form, as I don't dislike Lance but the game does not suit him and he has made no effort to make any changes to himself.

Thornton getting his ass kicked by Ablett. Yes an issue, but when geelong midfielders deliver the ball lace out to their forwards, not much you can do.

You do realise that Lance's opponants had the same lace out delivery Thornton's had?

We were beaten by a team who was "Hot" and had everything going for them on Saturday night. Criticising our players and Lance for that performance is wrong as Geelong were just to good. I believe we didn't play that bad, we just were bombing it long to Fevola everytime and that is probably what stuffed us because Geelong had all the run to take it back and score goals. We had the run as well but were let down by our last kick into the forward line. This will happen with our young team. Can't expect us to win every week. Geez we had 5 straight wins, we were bound to lose but like all of us we didn't expect a thumping....maybe we were to cocky after 5 wins in a row....but it is sad to say Geelong were awesome on Saturday...one day we will be like that every week...HOPE.

Geelong would have beaten any team in the league even the Premiers West Coast with that performance. At the same time the Cats could be cold this week and lose...which won't suprise me.

Forget the petition. Just drop him . Why should the captain or anybody else be excluded from the selectors knife. If you cant get near it drop him.

Lets go into the crystal ball for a second and look to the future. I thought at the end of the last year that Lance was just about gone. So he won the B and F. So what. His second half was ordinary to say the least,played the majority of football as a loose man in defence where the ball was most of the time. teams played through him and isolated him because he was done for pace and height.

One of the growing trends in AFL footy is the increase in the players height. Lance was taller than the average a few years ago. Now his height is on par with more of the players. And key position players have got taller as well. Lance was dwarfed by Hawkins, Mooney and Ablett.

There is nowhere to play him anymore except in the forward line and if you do that you cant play either Fisher,Kennedy or Hartlett who should be replacing him after a solid game for the Ants and form in the NAB.

The game has got faster and taller and the game has simply passed him by. If anyone thinks that isnt true then they will be sadly disappointed as LW continues to struggle with the game. Yes he is carrying a knee injury and that has effected his fitness but the other difference now is that we have players who are better options and they arnt been given a go.

Lance will eventually be listed as injured not dropped. Its sad to see a player passed it but I feel Lance's time is up .

Really good move to make such a player captain then.

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This post seems to have been started out of frustration that all our supporters see how out of form Lance is and the match committees reluctance to do anything about it during the NAB Cup and again after round 1.

I agree that we should support our captain and if he's included in the side then we should all wish him well and hope that he does really well. Until that point I think that we should be allowed to hope that the match committee does not allow the team to carry Lance through another AFL round.

He was exposed by everyone who played on him against the cats and that is pretty hard to watch, but I do not think he was the only villain in last week's match.

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Most of the posters here actually dont even wish Lance well, thats my big problem...

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If you are wise you'll listen to me

a petition on the petitioner

Shit Hey

i dont care we lost that much now that its Tuesday

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We're disappointed that he's not better - because we know he's capable of better - or has been in the past. Some think he won't ever produce, some do - all I'm sure would like a fit and firing Lance Whitnall kicking 50 goals a year - we'd be a finals side if that were the case.

Do you seriously believe that there are people who would wish him ill, particularly with this feud between himself and his brother?

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Clem, there does appear in some posts to be a perverse sense of delight in Lance's on-field struggles; it really does seem like certain people would rather Lance struggles (hence vindicating their stance) than Lance performs (hence proving them wrong). I don't know if anyone hopes his off-field troubles continue but I get the sense that people don't even want Lance to turn it around on-field which pisses me off as well.

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I think the only reasonable question/point made on this post is "how many poor games in a row does Lance have to play to get dropped by the MC?"

I would think if he has 4-5 bad ones then he needs at least a week or two to rest up and get his knee right ... or train like a maniac and prove he has the passion to come good. I am a Lance fan (not gonna hide that) but he's body language has me a little concerned. I'd like to see him show a little more passion on the field. Some more moungrel. I know it's not his nature but I think it would give us all a little more confidence that he is trying his heart out.

I still have confidence that he has the class and skill to come good. I know his not face and not the greatest athlete, but he has always had the physical limitations so its either his head or his fitness that is the problem.

Yeah, that's right. Just like George Harris took perverse enjoyment in

telling Big Nick - the champion of all Carlton champions - that his time

was up in 1974... just like Parkin having to tell champions such as

Glascott, McConville etc that their time was up... yeah we are all really

enjoying the ride of Lance's career.



Lance can look back and say he played 200 games for Carlton. Most

players don't get that far. That is an achievement he can gain pride from,

but I will tell you what motivates me before I ride off into the sunset .. I

believe passionately that the team comes before any individual. No

individual -whether it is Jezza or Nicholls or anyone else - should come

before the team.



Do you know why I have posted about Lance? Fear. I can handle a

schellacking from Geelong - a record breaking schellacking - just... i can

handle Thompson's belittling press conference after the match... I can

handle Richmond beating Carlton by 100 points last year, I can handle

kicking 4 goals against St Kilda last year, I can handle North winning by a

record margin over the Blues, I can handle all those records tumbling

over the last four years - but I am not under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES going

to sit through Essendon* caning Carlton. That is the last straw for me. Of

course it might not happen, but I need a break from the craziness of

the situation at Carlton.




Whatever happens Essendon* is a team that is improving - they are

playing their youngsters... while we are still in the twilight zone. That

hurts.




I am giving myself a bit of a break from Talking Carlton from this

moment on. You tough supporters can carry on the good fight.





Hi Ho Silver..............

Tap, you have targetted all of this anger at one bloke, our captain, our best and fairest from last year.

Which game from Lance was worse, the Richmond or Geelong? The result?

Everyone wants to be proven right that Lance is a dud and should be sacked.

Thats what is pissing me off...

Lance is having a horror patch but he will come through it....

should we support a bloke or bury him?

I know what I would rather.

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the problem as i see it, is we say no player is bigger than the club.

in this case, we are putting lance ahead of the club, and i think thats a problem.

and its not about burying or blaming the bloke

the moment he is a liability, he does himself a diservice and also the club us diservice when he is not fit, and mentally not up for it.

you can see he isnt right, give him two weeks, a month, if he needs it.

its a little like Cousins, he needs time to get himself sorted, and when he does, he comes back and plays.

at the moment, he is nothing but a liability for the club on the field.

get him involved, keep him involved around the club, but at the moment, he is a liability for the club when he takes the field

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You cant give Lance 2 weeks break...by the time he returns it will be so much faster again.

Lance = GONE!!!

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