Waitey, when did i say Waite doesnt chase ??

I said he tries to be too flamboyant and goes to ground to often... and he cant kick. Sorry for stating facts.

yes he chases very hard i agree with that fully. I have never asked for him to kick 10 goals, the way he kicks id be happy if he kicked 3

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Since the halcyon days of the 90's (especially since Diesel, Brown, Ratten and SOS retired) we have only had Fev as an enforcer on the field.

Look at all the clubs that have won premierships since 2000 they have all had enforcers:

Essendon*= Wallis, Banard, Mark and Jason Johnson, Hardwick.

Brisbane- Pike, Voss, Brown, Scott twins.

Port- Hardwick (again!), Tredrea, Carr, Wanganeen

Sydney - Hall, Kirk, Barry, Matthews and Crouch

West Coast - Hunter, Judd, lynch, Chick


Since 2000 the only player that could crunch opposition players and intimidate the opposition has been Fevola. Some would also say Kouta, but he isnt the same player these days.

Back in the 90's Carlton was famous for its hardness. Week in and week out players like, Diesel, Brown, Ratten, Rhys Jones, SOS, Hanna and Koutoufides enforced the hard hitting Carlton style of football upon the opposition.

I dont believe that we will be competive in the AFL until we regain that physical presence on the park.

However, we do have these "enforcers" on our list. At last!

These players have to play every week:

Fev - goes without saying

Santa- has so much potential it isnt funny. But Pagan keeps on rotating in and out of the F^%&ing side like a yo-yo. I hope that Pagan just lets him develop throughout the year at FB, because he will be a better FB than Thornton will ever be.

Ackland- Pure mongrel, would run from anywhere to help out a team mate.

Kouta- still has presence. I hope he stays fit.

AB- Ratten will really help the little tiger be more effective. Really started to show his ability in the second half of 2006.

Smokin Joe Dynamite Anderson - A breath of fresh air to our list. Hard as nails, strong hands, aggressive, smart and couragous. The other 15 clubs will be pissed that they missed getting this kid. In time will play in the midfield.

Murphy- courage

Wiggles- A simplistic kinda frightening courage. The best king of tagger, senseless and a little ugly. Wiggles is getting better every year.

Lets hope that Pagan has let the boys put on some bulk and has got them ready to stop taking backward steps.

If we can snare some early wins the confidence gained will be contagious.

Go Blues.

NO MORE BACKWARD STEPS

BRING BACK THE HARDEST TACKLING SIDE IN THE COMP

EXECUTION IS THE CHARIOT OF GENIUS- William Blake

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I tend to agree with Hollywood about Waite.

There is no question he gives his all and that he has the ingredients to be a major part of our next premiership but at the moment I just don't think he plays smart enough.

He can often over-attack both the ball and opposition leaving himself stranded on the ground while the ball is taken back up-field. Also, he needs to work on his tackling - not his commitment to tackle but rather his technique - as he tends to give away unnecessary frees.

Personally, I would like SoV to play off the half-back flank or on the wing going forward this year as I think this is where he would do most damage to the opposition - especially if JFK can hold down CHF.

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Only slightly, only slightly less
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Plenty of potentials thou!

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You put Scotland in any other team and he would be even better than what he is at Carlton. To assume that someone who is playing great football wouldn't cut it at another club is the complete opposite of the truth. A good player only gets better when he has good players around. Matty Hogg and Dean Rice are good examples. Came to Carlton (a very strong team in the mid 90s) from average teams in that era and excelled. Hogg particularly - played state footy after joining the blues. Was solid at best at the Buldogs before that.

You said Scotland would have trouble avoiding the bench or 2nds in most of the other clubs out there. Based on his form last year he'd start for any team in the comp without a problem. Name a team with a strong midfield and I'll find a spot for Scotland in there.

I think Scotland is a better player now than he was when he played in the 2 Magpie GF's; he can play back, middle and forward.

The point is, he made the 2 GF teams a few years ago, when the Magpies selected their best players to win at a time when they were one of the top 2 sides in the competition.ie he's proven to be a top side player.

Do you remember when he kicked 3 goals in the GF when to Maggies nearly snatched the nail biter against the powerful Lions?

I can't see why there wouldn't be a place for him in the WCE, Swans or Doggies, especially given that now that he is a more experienced player with a proven track record.

I'd like to see him used in the middle at times in 2007, using that strength, skill and experience against the opposition's seasoned bodies, like the Goodwins, Riccuittos...

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I thought i did just that!

West Coast, Freo, Bulldogs........................

As good a year as Scotland had in 06', and he did indeed have a good year so no arguments from me there, i just couldn't see him starting in a stronger side.

But i'll say it again:- I love Scotlands Consistancy and really hope it continues in 2007.

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I think Bondiblue just proved you wrong. He played for Collingwood in a grand final when he was younger and less of a player. He was close to All Australian selection last year and is a much better player now. He would easily fit into any team (starting on the field) in any AFL team on current form.

Actually he played in two Grand Finals. And if he can manage to make it into two grand final sides when he was a youngster I think he could somehow managed to sneak into Freo or West Coast when he's at the top of his game.

when does it start? the game?

i'd really like to go and watch,

for the doggies I 'd have him ahead of: Ray, McMahon, Boyd, Montgomery, Power and maybe Eagleton - all are senior 22 midfielders and really if I was going for consistency I'd select him over Cooney and Griffen ( I think Cooney and Griff are far more talented players but they're young and still inconsistent) On the list of mids for the Dogs I'd have him about equal with Daniel Cross; Cross being better in close but not so good by foot. I have him behind West, Giansiracusa and Gilbee, all of whom are great players.

for West Coast I'd rank him equal with Michael Braun and better than Chad Fletcher (based on his last 2 years) and I think he'd eclipse Beau Waters easily on HBF. The only argument I can see against Scotland fitting into the WCE 22 would be Matt Priddis, a guy of similar talent, attributes and body size who has not cemented his place in the 22 yet, I suspect because he's a pure midfielder.

for Freo: Sean McManus, Troy Cook, Des Headland, Mathew Carr and Schammer and Haselby are both coming off poor seasons but their best is better than Scotland. Oh and they recruited Soloman

i'd suspect it was cause he was rookie listed....

Fair enough...............those are your thoughts. Aggree to disagree i guess.

I don't want this conversation to slip into 'bagging Scotland' territory.
I like him, he's been a very handy pick-up for us, consistant and has some decent leadership skills.
All-in-all i think he's a very good player. I just (personally) wouldn't call him a gun, that's all. But perhaps my idea of a 'gun' differs from others.

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In a champion team, non-gun players become guns. Different players have different roles - not all of them are required to be chris judd. Look at Sydney. They're list was not considered anywhere near as good as it is until they started playing well & for each other. If he is able to stand out in our poorly performed team, then as we improve he could just as easily prove to be a gun as he could drop away as more talent comes to the fore.
Talent only gives you a head start...

Is there an intra-club game on today?

Yep...just reported on SEN that it's under way...hopefully we have some bods there that will write a report

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Nice. SEN should be broadcasting it!

it's not a match..,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

It was 2 x 20min halves and it has finished.

There was about 100 people there today and some of them weren't happy. Some of them had taen the moring of work to see what they thought was an intra-club match.

I just got home from it.

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Although in fairness to the club, it does in-fact have listed on the website that today's practise match is a 'Match Simulation' and not an intra-club......

(Feb 14th is the main intra club match, 4pm @ MC Labour Park)

But Malouf was on SEN the other day and he did mention an Intra-Club match would take place this morning at 9:30am so i'm guessing that's where alot of people were confused.

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