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In a year where the draft is thick and the free-agents plentiful, the first 'qualifier' for young delisted players would be the quality of the team that they couldn't get into.

If w wanted to place Raso on the Rookie List, I can't see anybody challenging.

Really dismayed with Houla's season in 2006... Was looking for him to step up as a leader - he certainly talked that kind of game in the pre-season. Will be a tough call on whether he is to be retained (if he is uncontracted)... The best option for both parties may be a trade for a 3rd round pick that could maybe be used as a father-son option?

Would love to see him return to the club, as I believe he has great upside and in the right side can be a gun. Unfortunately, by the time we are that team, he may be past his best.

Bentick (on form) should be retained.... Then again, I said the same thing about Brett Johnson.

Bannister & Wiggins are worth retaining - but only because I can't see them getting a game anywhere else. They went OK this year, so why not send him round again.

Lappin could probably hang the boots up or go around for the Bullies. Same reasoning as I gave for Houla - except the 'window' is more ajar than open for his career. Would be nice to reward the guy as he has stuck with us through the tough times, but if there's no room....

The implications of cutting a legacy player (especially for a club that has lost all sense of identity) would be more than enough reason to keep Blackwell... It just so happens that he is capable of earning a spot in our best 22.

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I know he's got heart, but until he can dish the ball out at a reasonable level each and every week, I'd rather have Walker in there.


Doing what Jim?
Walker plays a completely different game to Bentick. If you're flicking Bentick, who is going to perform his role?

(Please dont say Blackwell, he's not ready physically to play that position)

BTW, how can we have so many players who are not worthy of a spot still contracted?
Absolutely pathetic list management. :?

I had Murphy and Walker pegged in for Bentick's role, and I know they're not the same style of player.

No I don't expect Walker to play the game like Kouta, BV.

How many players on a list not worthy of a spot in the first choice 22? Why about 22 BV, including rookies. :lol:

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Synbad, Anyone have an update on Thornton ?


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Synbad, Anyone have an update on Thornton ?


He's still overseas I think.


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They're all back tomorrow but he apparently handed PoA to his manager.

I wonder if they're all waiting for something in trade week?


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Thanks. When is he coming back ? Surely his manager could sort things out with Power of Attorney and phone calls between he and the club.


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Synbad, Anyone have an update on Thornton ?


He's still overseas I think.

No im not!!!....i should have been but im not....


:P


Anyway.. from what i understand T Bird will stay at Carlton unless he really wants to go. From what i understand they will offer him 3 years and close to whatever he is offered .. and is a required player.

I doubt he wont be here.

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Crusader wrote:
In a year where the draft is thick and the free-agents plentiful, the first 'qualifier' for young delisted players would be the quality of the team that they couldn't get into.

If w wanted to place Raso on the Rookie List, I can't see anybody challenging.

Really dismayed with Houla's season in 2006... Was looking for him to step up as a leader - he certainly talked that kind of game in the pre-season. Will be a tough call on whether he is to be retained (if he is uncontracted)... The best option for both parties may be a trade for a 3rd round pick that could maybe be used as a father-son option?

Would love to see him return to the club, as I believe he has great upside and in the right side can be a gun. Unfortunately, by the time we are that team, he may be past his best.

Bentick (on form) should be retained.... Then again, I said the same thing about Brett Johnson.

Bannister & Wiggins are worth retaining - but only because I can't see them getting a game anywhere else. They went OK this year, so why not send him round again.

Lappin could probably hang the boots up or go around for the Bullies. Same reasoning as I gave for Houla - except the 'window' is more ajar than open for his career. Would be nice to reward the guy as he has stuck with us through the tough times, but if there's no room....

The implications of cutting a legacy player (especially for a club that has lost all sense of identity) would be more than enough reason to keep Blackwell... It just so happens that he is capable of earning a spot in our best 22.


What are you saying Lappin,Bentick,Wiggins or Houlihan might be delisted this is no way going to happen. Houilhan wasn't that bad this year,all these guys could be traded but it's likely you would get similiar players,so it's pointless.Brett Johnson was a recycled ordinary player,Adam Bentick is young and just completed a full season,players don't become good untill they reach 80 games.


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The news is that ABs shoulder was much worse than expected.. and its a miracle he could carry on....

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The news is that ABs shoulder was much worse than expected.. and its a miracle he could carry on....


Are we talking full reco?


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jimmae wrote:
Teague and Deluca both have another year.

I'd like Teague gone too. Don't forget the possibility of rookie elevations and the PSD pick Siegfried...


Don't worry Teague will be gone after his last game,even the commentators think so,he really really struggled,they will pay off his contract,there is no way Deluca will be as he will be used as a spare Ruckman and Pagan seems to like him.


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The news is that ABs shoulder was much worse than expected.. and its a miracle he could carry on....

Out for the whole pre-season type thing?

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bentick, hmmm....dont really mind what they do with him, he wont be with us/a regular player when we get back up and running IMO. hes a good honest player, a real tough nut, no doubting that...hed be one of the sorest in the dressing room after a game, but he just isnt skillful enough....we cant have that many guys who cant kick.

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Full shoulders are a 12 week proposition...Hes had a month lay off already.
so im assuming he will have a pre season prep.

But you cant fault the tancity and courage of a kid like AB playing in the guts as a kid doing all the heavy lifting for others.

I reckon the kid is a beauty and we dont give kids like AB the full credit they deserve .

He will never be a Judd but all good teams have players like AB.

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Agree.

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From the thread "Uncontracted Blues"

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1.Davies
2.Chambers
3.Longmuir
4.Prendergast
5.Livingston
6.Bryan
7.Sporn
8.McGrath
9.French (retired)

1. pick 1
2. pick 17
3. pick 19
4. pick 35
5. pick 51
6. pick 67
7. pick 83 or rookie promotion (Aisake)
8. PSD 1
9. PSD 2 or rookie promotion (Batson or Smith)

The rest of the uncontracted must be trade bait.


Fish, Betts, Waite and Fev are the only players contracted beyond 2007.
Dude we wont be using pick 67,will stop at 51 at the most and 9 changes would mean Flint,Jackson and Ohalipan gets promoted,Smith and Batson won't be at the club unless they are redrafted again as rookie if they still under age. i'm not sure they would delist mcgrath,even thou he hasn't been great,but he hasn't been to bad also but he isn't really a long term player and Sporn may have survived for another season.


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Rambo Stallone wrote:
[Dude we wont be using pick 67,will stop at 51 at the most and 9 changes would mean Flint,Jackson and Ohalipan gets promoted,Smith and Batson won't be at the club unless they are redrafted again as rookie if they still under age. i'm not sure they would delist mcgrath,even thou he hasn't been great,but he hasn't been to bad also but he isn't really a long term player and Sporn may have survived for another season.


Smith and Batson can stay on the Rookie list for another year. The AFL have changed the rule, rookies can now have 3 years on the Rookie List.

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bentick, hmmm....dont really mind what they do with him, he wont be with us/a regular player when we get back up and running IMO. hes a good honest player, a real tough nut, no doubting that...hed be one of the sorest in the dressing room after a game, but he just isnt skillful enough....we cant have that many guys who cant kick.


Who Do you Rate better, Bentick,Jackson or Blackwell


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[Dude we wont be using pick 67,will stop at 51 at the most and 9 changes would mean Flint,Jackson and Ohalipan gets promoted,Smith and Batson won't be at the club unless they are redrafted again as rookie if they still under age. i'm not sure they would delist mcgrath,even thou he hasn't been great,but he hasn't been to bad also but he isn't really a long term player and Sporn may have survived for another season.


Smith and Batson can stay on the Rookie list for another year. The AFL have changed the rule, rookies can now have 3 years on the Rookie List.


How many Rookies can we have,it would be good to have about 8 rookies at each club and the age increased to 24. The AFL System is all wrong and i believe if you are psychically stronger enough at 16,Do all the medical Tests and stuff you should be able to be in the AFL Draft,but get a 3 year deal if any club signs you.


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If you were as F&&^(66 as Bentick is out on the ground being in and under 90% of his time, sometimes without rotation, you'd be missing targets too.

It's a tough gig Bentick's got in the engine room; don't dismiss the possibility of him being our next 'Ratten' or 'Browny, or 'Diesel' (not the same, but just as tenacious), when he starts getting his arms free more times. He gets to the ball in the clinches first. He's a potential 30-35 posession machine on a consistent basis by the time he's 23. Probably better than Stevens at the same age.

Plus I like him because he's a Carltonian through and through. He bleeds for the jumper.

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