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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2026 3:14 pm 
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Aren’t there any good ruckman we could pickup in the mid season draft?


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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2026 3:49 pm 
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Aren’t there any good ruckman we could pickup in the mid season draft?


There has to be a free hit.

I'm scouring WAFL and SAFL.

There's no standouts I've seen in the VFL, but I haven't watched games other than Carlton and Swans and who they've played.

Can we target that 223cm trying out as ruck prospect from the USA?

There has to be a free hit somewhere.

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2026 5:38 pm 
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Anyone know if we are going to get a pick in the Mid season draft ? Can we put E Hollands on the LTI ? I thought we already replaced O’Farrell by the SSP.

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2026 7:04 pm 
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I thought it was already confirmed we weren't participating. But maybe our recent HR activity changes that.


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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2026 9:00 pm 
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I thought it was already confirmed we weren't participating. But maybe our recent HR activity changes that.


That’s not what you heard GE.
Club has to make a decision on HOF and Elijah in 3 weeks time.
Elijah issue is still raw and fresh. No need to say anything.
HOF is taking speckles on the bag and will be cleared to play later in year, but we don’t have to make any noise around that for 3 weeks.

Nothing declared yet, but if we are playing to win and improve, I wouldn’t be surprised if we add a couple in MSD to consider if they are worth keeping come seasons end, as they will with Derksen and Evans.

Makes sense to get a couple more options to fill gaps before Trade period.

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2026 9:06 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
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I thought it was already confirmed we weren't participating. But maybe our recent HR activity changes that.


That’s not what you heard GE.
Club has to make a decision on HOF and Elijah in 3 weeks time.
Elijah issue is still raw and fresh. No need to say anything.
HOF is taking speckles on the bag and will be cleared to play later in year, but we don’t have to make any noise around that for 3 weeks.

Nothing declared yet, but if we are playing to win and improve, I wouldn’t be surprised if we add a couple in MSD to consider if they are worth keeping come seasons end, as they will with Derksen and Evans.

Makes sense to get a couple more options to fill gaps before Trade period.


Any idea who they may be looking at Bondi ?

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2026 9:30 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
I thought it was already confirmed we weren't participating. But maybe our recent HR activity changes that.


That’s not what you heard GE.
Club has to make a decision on HOF and Elijah in 3 weeks time.
Elijah issue is still raw and fresh. No need to say anything.
HOF is taking speckles on the bag and will be cleared to play later in year, but we don’t have to make any noise around that for 3 weeks.

Nothing declared yet, but if we are playing to win and improve, I wouldn’t be surprised if we add a couple in MSD to consider if they are worth keeping come seasons end, as they will with Derksen and Evans.

Makes sense to get a couple more options to fill gaps before Trade period.


Any idea who they may be looking at Bondi ?


What I know is what I think they MIGHT do. See above.

For me the search for the next Ruck KPF HB and a mid has already started. MSD is an opportunity to surprise.

There’s some great transition players in the VFL who are mature and ready to go. A speedy HB beckons if we want them. Who knows?

The resignations this week came as a surprise to everyone. No one even had an inkling. I have no doubt if we do have targets in the MSD it isn’t going to be public till MSD day. No sneaky leakers.

Mihocek came from VFL. A KPF to fill Curnow shoes. Ie improve on Kemp and Gov.

No 1 ruck. If Pitto gets injured and we want to feed our mids Reidy ain’t going to do that.

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2026 9:44 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Aren’t there any good ruckman we could pickup in the mid season draft?


There has to be a free hit.

I'm scouring WAFL and SAFL.

There's no standouts I've seen in the VFL, but I haven't watched games other than Carlton and Swans and who they've played.

Can we target that 223cm trying out as ruck prospect from the USA?

There has to be a free hit somewhere.


Why not Flynn Riley?


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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2026 9:57 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
Aren’t there any good ruckman we could pickup in the mid season draft?


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2026 9:03 am 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Aren’t there any good ruckman we could pickup in the mid season draft?


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:clap: Ex Blue and volley baller Alex Mirkov

I’ve watched him this year a couple times because I have a soft spot for the Seaguls and in the opening rounds vs Carlton.

He has evolved. He looks stronger. He isn’t getting smaller. Taking marks and kicky goals.

At 210cm plus height coupled with his huge wingspan and with that added reach, he doesn’t need to jump at the CB, and gets first hand around the ground.

I thought he was improving at Carlton too.

I’d prefer Mirkov to Reidy.
It’s players like him we need to add.

How’s his engine Doc?

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2026 9:19 am 
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sinbagger wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Aren’t there any good ruckman we could pickup in the mid season draft?


There has to be a free hit.

I'm scouring WAFL and SAFL.

There's no standouts I've seen in the VFL, but I haven't watched games other than Carlton and Swans and who they've played.

Can we target that 223cm trying out as ruck prospect from the USA?

There has to be a free hit somewhere.


Why not Flynn Riley?


I thought we were hiding him last year and expected his name to be called up in as a mature Draftee. I think he’s around 22yo this year, and impresses whenever he plays. A bit lanky but he is 206 and he is a competitor who follows up his work.

We have

Pitto (29 ) injury prone and needs a regular chop out) Harry and Pitto shared the load to see Pitto competing in the 4th against a skinny kid. Would’ve been a different story watching McKay vs English and Pitto.

Reidy (25) hasnt impressed at all…he doesn’t like body contact and is slow around the ground like Pitto. Needs to improve a lot and at 25 should be showing more than he has imo. I thought he struggled in the VFL vs Footscray

OKeefe (21) is still developing. I have faith he will develop and get stronger. He has hard hands and see him as a Fwd - ruck. He may hit some form. Glad his hammies are holding together. Stick with him. I think he'll make it.

Harry (29) is our only KPF. Was noticeably missing when we were attacking but he was in the ruck. I like Harry in the mix, but only 5 mins here and there to get him warmed up. He’s in good form and marking well.

Looks like we have enough, but if and when Pitto is injured or fatigued our rucks are not what we need at CB with new ruck rules.

I would like to find replacements for both Pitto and Reidy. Two rucks is all the rage with 5 on bench, but they have to be 2 good ones who can mark and also hit scoreboard: see StKilda Freo Port Dees ….

EDIT...forgot to add Lewis Young (27). His marking is a feature. He's tall enough for ruck but doesnt win many taps, and rarely to advantage. His marking prowess has him ahead of O'Keefe and Reidy. HOK can be excused; he's only 21yo, and doing well at this level for his age.

I recall when we had 4 ruckmen on our list: Kreuzer, Warnock, Jacobs and Hampson. Plus we had Setanta and Casboult. It wasn't unusual for teams to have 4 ruckmen on the list. Pity we didn't back Jacobs who went on to become an AA.

Its obvious from the above list we need to improve on our No 1 and No 2 ruck. We saw what happened to the Doggies without their dominant ruck in English; there was no one feeding the elite onballers. Same happens to us in second halves this year. Have to take the ruck role more serious. Sean Grigg types wont cut it at CB and neither does Crippa

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2026 10:17 am 
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Serious question, but does that 10.7% include the times when he is 5m behind his man or not near the contest because he is walking?

I get what you are saying, but if he is indeed one of the toxic personalities that had been suggested last year, is that someone we need at the club is my question?
As for that backline, it'll be great to see, but who will be directing the traffic if Weitering prefers to go 'insular' under pressure?

A lot of this conjecture is based on GW's statement of us going heavy in this draft.
The question is then, where are those picks going to come from?


We have a lot of collateral to deal with Side. As I mentioned elsewhere, Essendon** will be desperate for early firsts next year to get Bewick. I'd take our next years first for their 2026 first. Maybe a shuffle of later trades. We have picks and players we can move without trading our one decent defender.
As for him being a "toxic personality", how would we know? I doubt the players would keep voting him in the leadership group if that was the case.

I could be wrong but I was under the impression that he was one of the 3 having a sook last year.
Bondi seems to think I was wrong, so I'm happy to believe it.
Either way his actions this year and dropping of the head coupled with his comment of going 'insular' means he's not a leader, not a natural one anyway.

Sorry I haven't see that post but I get what you are saying, the 2027 draft is heavily compromised though.
E.g. If we finish 3rd from the bottom in 2027 that equates to pick 6.
Which unless we do trade away a player like Cripps or Weitering or a heap of seniors retire etc, I doubt they would predict us finishing that low in 2027 especially with Dean, HOF, Smith, Walker and some of the other kids that are stepping up this year.
A mid table prediction would be more likely and then that means our first could be around 15th or 16th.
So if Essendon* finishes 2nd last this year they may want a bit more than just our first next year and some pick swaps.
I think at minimum they will be gunning for our Swans pick also, which could be as low as pick #25 (590pts) if they win the flag and before any compensation picks push theirs back further again.

I'd also be shocked if we traded away too much of our 2027 picks for 2026 ones when we are looking like we will need even more picks in 2028 and beyond.
From a post on Reddit.
It is no wonder the AFL has made changes this year.
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We have the following father/sons and NGA candidates coming through over the next 5 years.

2026: Cody Walker, Riley Scotland

2027: Mitchell Rice (Dean Rice' son, also eligible for the Saints), Kai Bunyard (NGA), Archie Coady (NGA)

2028: Will Thornton, Lukas Koutoufides, Darcy Johnston (Wayne Johnston' son)

2029: Oscar Judd, Tyler Scotland, Arli Walker

2030: Lewis Betts, Nason Lovett-Murray (Jeff Garlett' son)

Then there are more Judd's, Betts, Casboults, Touhy's in the years following.

And the AFL is looking at all our talented kids coming through and are going shit.

Arli Walker is reported even better than Cody, Lewis Betts and Nason Lovett-Murray are also going to be great players. Oscar Judd is at this moment more interested in cricket than football. Don't know shit about the Scotland boys, but if they have half as much heart as their dad, they will be good players.

Source: Bletch on BigFooty who is a big follower of our academy players and has researched when the kids are coming through.


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2026 10:31 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
Serious question, but does that 10.7% include the times when he is 5m behind his man or not near the contest because he is walking?

I get what you are saying, but if he is indeed one of the toxic personalities that had been suggested last year, is that someone we need at the club is my question?
As for that backline, it'll be great to see, but who will be directing the traffic if Weitering prefers to go 'insular' under pressure?

A lot of this conjecture is based on GW's statement of us going heavy in this draft.
The question is then, where are those picks going to come from?


Weitering was not one of the toxic personalities last year. No need to even suggest that. The personalities who may have caused some issues are gone.

We need Weitering for many reasons.

We have an 19yo and a 20yo KPD in our keeping. The future. Weitering is needed to protect, nurture and expedite the development of O'Farrell and Dean. He is their onfield coach and leader, whether he looks the part from the stands or not. No doubt HOF and Dean feel the privelege having the colossus of a man next to them in the trenches.

Furthermore, the 3 give us all the KPD cover we need for the next 5 years. Depth will come from Young (he's cheap and a bird in the hand) or a better option in the Trade/Draft period.

Lets not make out Weitering doesn't have flaws. He does. Every defender does. You have to look at the whole package and the reasons his direct opponent takes marks and kicks goals. Blind Freddy can see Weiters' opponents rarely take marks against him in a one on one contest. That's a great asset to have for any team at FB. A must.

Weitering's prowess in the one on one's has never been in question. He won an AA jacket for that strength.

His weakness, is the same weakness any FB faces against quick leading FF's, in certain scenarios. Logan Morris last week led hard and quick into space, leaving Weitering in his wake, and kicked 4 goals from uncontested marks. Whilst it looks bad for Weitering when he gives up the chase, but its the chase he has no hope in stopping. Are thos 4 goals against, Weitering's fault?

No FB can stop a leading player in open space when they have a team mate unopposed streaming from the middle kicking a perfect Syd Jackson stab pass into his tit. The problem comes when team mates don't block the lead lanes, and there's a lack of midfield pressure allowing opponents to carry ball unopposed to off load the perfect pass to Weiterings' leading opponent. No one can stop that.

Its not Weiterings fault the opposition rucks jump over Pitto at CB hitting ball clear of our contested bulls and into the path of their running mids. Something we have witnessed week in week out in 2nd halves when pitto fatigues, or a fresh oppo ruck comes in like Oscar Steele did vs Coll. We have many weaknesses further upfield that need to be plugged to help out Weiters. We have to fix those issues, and Weiters HOK and Dean will have no trouble keeping their opponents quiet.

We must keep our AA bookends.

IMO, we need to find a replacement for the loss of TDK to plug one source of that leaks. Walsh, Walker Smith and a FA/Trade will look after the rest in years to come.

Happy to be corrected if it wasn't Weiters last year.
His actions and efforts this year haven't helped though.

I agree we need a player like him to help in the backline, but he needs to pull his finger out.
He had a better game on the weekend but maybe modern football requires defenders with better mobility and kicking.
That decision to kick to a congested wing on the weekend instead of the free player on the other side was mind boggling to say the least.
Plus if he can't get to a contest more and more because of the faster more agile forwards, then what is the point in having him as a defender, it is his 1 wood.
I guess we will see more as the season kicks on.

I get what you are saying about the ruck and 100% agree with you on that also.


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2026 11:05 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
DocSherrin III wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Aren’t there any good ruckman we could pickup in the mid season draft?


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:clap: Ex Blue and volley baller Alex Mirkov

I’ve watched him this year a couple times because I have a soft spot for the Seaguls and in the opening rounds vs Carlton.

He has evolved. He looks stronger. He isn’t getting smaller. Taking marks and kicky goals.

At 210cm plus height coupled with his huge wingspan and with that added reach, he doesn’t need to jump at the CB, and gets first hand around the ground.

I thought he was improving at Carlton too.

I’d prefer Mirkov to Reidy.
It’s players like him we need to add.

How’s his engine Doc?



Was always going to be a slow burn, given his volley ball background- but I thought there was something there.

Big men take a long time especially young skinny ones.

I thought Collingwood showed patience with Oscar Steene and after three years on their list they were finally reaping some benefits- unfortunately the poor kid did his ACL just as he was coming good.

Mirkov might well be worth another look (if he really wants it), but I had thought we were looking closely at Flyn Riley now.

Whichever way you look at it we are going to need another ruckman.

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2026 11:14 am 
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Sidefx wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
Serious question, but does that 10.7% include the times when he is 5m behind his man or not near the contest because he is walking?

I get what you are saying, but if he is indeed one of the toxic personalities that had been suggested last year, is that someone we need at the club is my question?
As for that backline, it'll be great to see, but who will be directing the traffic if Weitering prefers to go 'insular' under pressure?

A lot of this conjecture is based on GW's statement of us going heavy in this draft.
The question is then, where are those picks going to come from?


We have a lot of collateral to deal with Side. As I mentioned elsewhere, Essendon*** will be desperate for early firsts next year to get Bewick. I'd take our next years first for their 2026 first. Maybe a shuffle of later trades. We have picks and players we can move without trading our one decent defender.
As for him being a "toxic personality", how would we know? I doubt the players would keep voting him in the leadership group if that was the case.

I could be wrong but I was under the impression that he was one of the 3 having a sook last year.
Bondi seems to think I was wrong, so I'm happy to believe it.
Either way his actions this year and dropping of the head coupled with his comment of going 'insular' means he's not a leader, not a natural one anyway.

Sorry I haven't see that post but I get what you are saying, the 2027 draft is heavily compromised though.
E.g. If we finish 3rd from the bottom in 2027 that equates to pick 6.
Which unless we do trade away a player like Cripps or Weitering or a heap of seniors retire etc, I doubt they would predict us finishing that low in 2027 especially with Dean, HOF, Smith, Walker and some of the other kids that are stepping up this year.
A mid table prediction would be more likely and then that means our first could be around 15th or 16th.
So if Essendon** finishes 2nd last this year they may want a bit more than just our first next year and some pick swaps.
I think at minimum they will be gunning for our Swans pick also, which could be as low as pick #25 (590pts) if they win the flag and before any compensation picks push theirs back further again.


I missed that BV post re swapping our 2026-7 First round picks. That's a good idea.

I'm sure Zac Merrett will put his name up for a Trade to Hawks again. Hawks have made it clear they want proven talent in.
Merrett turns 31 in October. I'm not sure the Hawks will offer 2026 and 2027 First Round picks for him, but then again, they are close to contending.

I wonder when the bid on Bewick is likely to happen? If he is a Pick 1, I expect Effendopes to end up 17th or 18th next year, so their first and another first should do the job for them to match the Bewick bid. They can only use two picks, and may go into deficit. Where that second first comes from, well, it could be ours if they want to keep Zac to lead the kids, given there may be an exodus of players out of contract at Bumberland. I'm sure Bumbers would want a bit more coming their way given 2026 is the last of the uncompromised Drafts. We can offer a 2026 or 2027 2nd round pick to make the Swap happen.

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It's a good idea, but I'd say more unlikely than likely given how compromised the 2027 draft will be.

Yeah, I forgot he wants out.
If the Hawks want him then they might get enough picks in 2027 if they even need them as you've pointed out.

We only have the Swans 2nd rounder for 2027, so it won't be worth much if anything after bonus picks, compensation etc.
I'd hope we use our 2026 picks before the compromised draft, plus our 2026 pick will be pushed back a few places depending on where we finish due to those new compo handouts from the AFL.

Like I said, I am really struggling to see where we are going to get high draft picks from this year post the Cody bid without trading away some good talent.
Also I would be surprised if we didn't trade some of our 2027 picks forward to 2028 given the kids we have coming.
Kouta and Thornton are both on the radar already.


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To what extent was our culling of Mirkov due to his heart condition? Would he be able to handle the intensity of AFL or is the relatively relaxed tempo of VFL the most that can be expected of him? Rhetorical questions since we are not privy to his medical history and should not be sharing it even if we were.


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To what extent was our culling of Mirkov due to his heart condition? Would he be able to handle the intensity of AFL or is the relatively relaxed tempo of VFL the most that can be expected of him? Rhetorical questions since we are not privy to his medical history and should not be sharing it even if we were.

Notwithstanding the fact that he’s pretty shit.

Best VFL ruckman since Liam Reidy.

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bondiblue wrote:
DocSherrin III wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Aren’t there any good ruckman we could pickup in the mid season draft?


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:clap: Ex Blue and volley baller Alex Mirkov

I’ve watched him this year a couple times because I have a soft spot for the Seaguls and in the opening rounds vs Carlton.

He has evolved. He looks stronger. He isn’t getting smaller. Taking marks and kicky goals.

At 210cm plus height coupled with his huge wingspan and with that added reach, he doesn’t need to jump at the CB, and gets first hand around the ground.

I thought he was improving at Carlton too.

I’d prefer Mirkov to Reidy.
It’s players like him we need to add.

How’s his engine Doc?


he might come back now Vossy is gone. was not a fan


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Crusader wrote:
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To what extent was our culling of Mirkov due to his heart condition? Would he be able to handle the intensity of AFL or is the relatively relaxed tempo of VFL the most that can be expected of him? Rhetorical questions since we are not privy to his medical history and should not be sharing it even if we were.

Notwithstanding the fact that he’s pretty shit.

Best VFL ruckman since Liam Reidy.


Beggers cant be choosers.
Mirkov gave Reidy a bath in round 1.

He looked like he has evolved and a stronger body.
Took marks and kicked goals. He actually impressed me, but ignored him because he was a past Carlton player.

I'd rather have Mirkov at CB than Pitto or Reidy.

Get me better than Mirkov and I will be happy we have a better back up ruck than Reidy, then find me a No 1 ruckman.

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