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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2026 10:55 am 
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Rod Ashman

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And we're now also very much like St Kilda fans of the 80s too!
If we were down in the 80s, we'd still be pretty confident that we'd come out and blitz the Premiership quarter and all would be well.
Ahead at 3/4 time, Saints fans would be heads down, hiding behind their trembling fingers just waiting to lose. Which they did.
That is now us.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2026 10:55 am 
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As Wow highlighted, it is more than Voss. Although, it is clear Voss can't fix it. It is coaching, recruiting, development, culture, leadership... hero worship.
It goes back years, with possibly only Ratten able to get some form of positive, effective game plan together since Pagan took over and was reamed by the AFL establishment.
(And while I'm there, I also feel like Wayne Brittain was hard done by the injuries he copped at the time.)

I do not buy that almost all our players are completely rubbish, even though I can see our skills are terrible at the moment. I would bet that under a different system, game plan, culture, they would mostly be fine. I can also see great players at other teams who would not have been granted the runway they required to reach the heights they have if they were at Carlton.
And while our drafting/recruiting has been pretty ordinary, there are many Premiership teams who had multiple and very notable draft fails. Including Hawthorn (the era of the Beaus), Melbourne (Scully/Trengove), and Richmond.

I do believe we have the right people steering the ship for the moment we are in: Wright and Davies. Cool heads who I really hope can sort out a way forward without overreacting.
This time 2 years ago, the media had written off not only Fagan but were also forecasting the closing of the Brisbane window.
It was widely thought that Sam Mitchell had cut too deep at Hawthorn and Cornes famously couldn't identify any heroes for their fans to get behind, apart from Sicily.

We need to find a coach who is strong but thinks independently. Who can work his way through whatever presents itself with our list, with the rules, with the way the game is going.
I am really hoping that Wright and Davies can find this person.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2026 12:15 pm 
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i don't have any idea why. it's completely illogical if i think about it.


but i have perfect faith that GW is the guy who's gonna do it for us. a vast list makeover geared towards flexibility and the modern game combined with modern coaching and player management like we see with fagan, fly and mitchell.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2026 5:20 pm 
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Only have to look at Melbourne today to see that coaches make a difference.

Just rip the bandaid off. Please.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2026 5:29 pm 
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Yeah I thought Melbourne would be really shit this year.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2026 8:12 pm 
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He will coach out the season.

We will finish bottom 4, which almost guarantees we get Walker.

No point getting a sugar hit from a new coach and finishing mid-table.

Granted, I'm a moron, so I'm almost certainly wrong, but I reckon that's what senior management are banking on.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2026 8:53 pm 
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TAFKA BamBam7 wrote:
He will coach out the season.

We will finish bottom 4, which almost guarantees we get Walker.

No point getting a sugar hit from a new coach and finishing mid-table.

Granted, I'm a moron, so I'm almost certainly wrong, but I reckon that's what senior management are banking on.


Yep unless it gets really embarrassing


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2026 11:50 pm 
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I’m worried about the effects on the youth for every additional day he hangs around.


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