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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 5:07 pm 
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i think it's time. it's beyond time. since midway 2024, we knew he wasn't it. doesn't have it.

needs to hit up the public speaking circuit. that's his gift, post playing.


I'm going to repeat myself. It's the wrong list for the modern game. No coach out there could help this mob.

The coach has a big say in the type of list he wants...

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 5:08 pm 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
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i think it's time. it's beyond time. since midway 2024, we knew he wasn't it. doesn't have it.

needs to hit up the public speaking circuit. that's his gift, post playing.


I'm going to repeat myself. It's the wrong list for the modern game. No coach out there could help this mob.


I agree, it’s obviously not the coach. It’s obviously the players are too scared to execute the game plan.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 5:09 pm 
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I reckon Brad Scott might be available soon.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 5:12 pm 
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What's the game plan... dominate the clearances?... if that doesn't work, "harder for longer"?

Archaic coach... two time failure... we wasted the re-build.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 5:12 pm 
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Pagan around? Lets go right back and start again.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 5:31 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
i think it's time. it's beyond time. since midway 2024, we knew he wasn't it. doesn't have it.


needs to hit up the public speaking circuit. that's his gift, post playing.


You mean around the time we were 2nd on the ladder, had just dry humped the Cats and had put 8 goals past GWS in the first quarter? Was it then that you figured out Voss wasn't the man? Or did you wait for the Dimma's Whinge (sounds like dimmer switch, heh) and for the AFL to change the rules to decide he couldn't coach?


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FRANZ Liszt couldn’t help us….!


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 6:29 pm 
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So is Voss the head coach we want going forward?


afl need to have a good look at themselves. i'm a sports nut. nba, mlb, prem league. no other competition in the world, has an annual round of rule changes like we do. it's amateur hour at afl HQ


i think that's a really good point. they make so many decision even outside all the rule tinkering that has a desired goal for them as corporate execs but really shocking negative impact on some teams to the advantage of other teams (AFL favourites).

it's always been thus — going back to Ross Oakley. And they just keep telling themselves what great shape the game is in and what great leaders they are.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 6:32 pm 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
Braithy wrote:
i think it's time. it's beyond time. since midway 2024, we knew he wasn't it. doesn't have it.

needs to hit up the public speaking circuit. that's his gift, post playing.


I'm going to repeat myself. It's the wrong list for the modern game. No coach out there could help this mob.


agree, 100%. but watching voss midway thru the 3rd quarter of every game. on the sideline, shitting his pants for the whole world to see. we need a break from that.


also, as someone mentioned. voss came in and wanted big strong bodies that could play his contested, bludgeon them at the coalface brand of football. even if the rule changes didn't come on board, i'm not sure it's tenable over a 25 game season plus finals. players breakdown.

under voss we would be what, top 5 in the comp for the last 4 seasons for most man games lost due to injury?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 6:34 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
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Braithy wrote:
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So is Voss the head coach we want going forward?



voss will be gone for 2027. he's only here bcos the 2 or 3 coaches wright sounded out weren't interested.


next year we clear out a ton of cap (if i'm not mistaken) we bring in cody and we go again. under a new coach with a new plan and a revamped list to play to the constant changing modern rules.


afl need to have a good look at themselves. i'm a sports nut. nba, mlb, prem league. no other competition in the world, has an annual round of rule changes like we do. it's amateur hour at afl HQ


Yes , all in the name of speeding the game up . I want them to slow the game down . Its way too fast . Like watching basketball . What is this obsession with speed ?



ah Mick ... i got no idea why they're obsessed with speed.


i love the nba - nearly as much as CFC. but viewer numbers at an all time low as most fans are sick of 138-124 scorelines and mindless bombing up and down the court shooting 3's. no defense, their soft tissue - calf, achilles, hammy - injuries are 40% higher than at any other point in the NBA ... and it's all down to this misinterpretation that fans want high scores and speed.


afl is not a well run sport imo. any organisation that feels the need to implement yearly rule changes is just getting lost in itself. there was nothing wrong with the game and since the 6-6-6 rule limited flooding from the centre bounce, the game was in a really healthy spot.

contested footy, chaos ball, run and gun - all of these ways of playing were valid. and watching the different tactical styles come against each other used to be enthralling (for me). where now, if you can't run and gun, you can't compete.

i'd always watch 5 or 6 games a weekend. now i sit thru one carlton game, and that's it.


the "stand" rule is a joke. players just walk around the man on the mark and the guy on the mark has to wait for a bloke with a whistle to make his mind up that it's play on before moving a muscle! it seems like some players are taking matters in their own hands and moving without waiting for the 'play on' but it's always too late because they had to be a statue until it's too late.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 6:37 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
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i think it's time. it's beyond time. since midway 2024, we knew he wasn't it. doesn't have it.


needs to hit up the public speaking circuit. that's his gift, post playing.


You mean around the time we were 2nd on the ladder, had just dry humped the Cats and had put 8 goals past GWS in the first quarter? Was it then that you figured out Voss wasn't the man? Or did you wait for the Dimma's Whinge (sounds like dimmer switch, heh) and for the AFL to change the rules to decide he couldn't coach?



that was 2023 that we looked on top of the world. and again, i sound like a broken record. that was never by design, but due to injuries. most of the 9 game win streak was without a ruck. we played fast, play on at all costs chaos ball. we beat pies at their own game and torched the cats.


then we got tdk back and looked good, still, but not the same. then i think it was against the crows or gws, we got pittonet back and voss rushed him straight into the team at the expense of a runner. and we laid a giant egg.

2023 finals were magical, bcos we played with heart and belief, but we were also outplayed. the 2 lumbering rucks at the cost of a runner took the fast, play on chaos ball and swapped it for the long bombs down the flanks to contest. tedium enused and it hasn't stopped since 2024.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 6:42 pm 
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the "stand" rule is a joke. players just walk around the man on the mark and the guy on the mark has to wait for a bloke with a whistle to make his mind up that it's play on before moving a muscle! it seems like some players are taking matters in their own hands and moving without waiting for the 'play on' but it's always too late because they had to be a statue until it's too late.


Add to that, players not sure who is to man the mark in the first place and players being forced to stand perpendicular to the line of play.

My infuriation with the way we played today is only matched by this rule.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 7:05 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
Braithy wrote:
i think it's time. it's beyond time. since midway 2024, we knew he wasn't it. doesn't have it.


needs to hit up the public speaking circuit. that's his gift, post playing.


You mean around the time we were 2nd on the ladder, had just dry humped the Cats and had put 8 goals past GWS in the first quarter? Was it then that you figured out Voss wasn't the man? Or did you wait for the Dimma's Whinge (sounds like dimmer switch, heh) and for the AFL to change the rules to decide he couldn't coach?



that was 2023 that we looked on top of the world. and again, i sound like a broken record. that was never by design, but due to injuries. most of the 9 game win streak was without a ruck. we played fast, play on at all costs chaos ball. we beat pies at their own game and torched the cats.


then we got tdk back and looked good, still, but not the same. then i think it was against the crows or gws, we got pittonet back and voss rushed him straight into the team at the expense of a runner. and we laid a giant egg.

2023 finals were magical, bcos we played with heart and belief, but we were also outplayed. the 2 lumbering rucks at the cost of a runner took the fast, play on chaos ball and swapped it for the long bombs down the flanks to contest. tedium enused and it hasn't stopped since 2024.


Mate, I don't know why you ever get into arguments around facts & figures because you always get them wrong :D

https://afltables.com/afl/seas/2024.html

Check it out -

Round 16, 2024 - we pump the Cats by 63 points

Round 17, 2024 - we beat Richmond to go six points clear in 2nd place.

Round 18, we go to Western Sydney and lead the Giants 8.4 to 3.1 at quarter time. Would've been 2.1 for them but Weiters played an arrogant no-look lateral pass into the corridor with seconds left that gave them a goal and probably a bit of wounded pride.

From there: 14 goals conceded in two quarters, 2W 6L to close the h/a season, scraping into 8th and humiliated in the EF.

I don't remember when Dimma's whinge was exactly, nor when the AFL acted on it, but it definitely targeted our strengths.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 7:17 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
Braithy wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
Braithy wrote:
i think it's time. it's beyond time. since midway 2024, we knew he wasn't it. doesn't have it.


needs to hit up the public speaking circuit. that's his gift, post playing.


You mean around the time we were 2nd on the ladder, had just dry humped the Cats and had put 8 goals past GWS in the first quarter? Was it then that you figured out Voss wasn't the man? Or did you wait for the Dimma's Whinge (sounds like dimmer switch, heh) and for the AFL to change the rules to decide he couldn't coach?



that was 2023 that we looked on top of the world. and again, i sound like a broken record. that was never by design, but due to injuries. most of the 9 game win streak was without a ruck. we played fast, play on at all costs chaos ball. we beat pies at their own game and torched the cats.


then we got tdk back and looked good, still, but not the same. then i think it was against the crows or gws, we got pittonet back and voss rushed him straight into the team at the expense of a runner. and we laid a giant egg.

2023 finals were magical, bcos we played with heart and belief, but we were also outplayed. the 2 lumbering rucks at the cost of a runner took the fast, play on chaos ball and swapped it for the long bombs down the flanks to contest. tedium enused and it hasn't stopped since 2024.


Mate, I don't know why you ever get into arguments around facts & figures because you always get them wrong :D

https://afltables.com/afl/seas/2024.html

Check it out -

Round 16, 2024 - we pump the Cats by 63 points

Round 17, 2024 - we beat Richmond to go six points clear in 2nd place.

Round 18, we go to Western Sydney and lead the Giants 8.4 to 3.1 at quarter time. Would've been 2.1 for them but Weiters played an arrogant no-look lateral pass into the corridor with seconds left that gave them a goal and probably a bit of wounded pride.

From there: 14 goals conceded in two quarters, 2W 6L to close the h/a season, scraping into 8th and humiliated in the EF.

I don't remember when Dimma's whinge was exactly, nor when the AFL acted on it, but it definitely targeted our strengths.



it's hardly an argument. i thought the cats game was 2023. sorry for the slip up, i guess.

2024 wasn't a good season imo, outside of the cats game and lions round 1.

lots of narrow wins, we couldn't put our foot on any team's throat and kill them off. (except the cats, which was right after our bye, and right before their bye.) lots of us not being able to stop momentum. lots of cracks appearing.

... after the richmond game you speak of, the only teams we beat were north and weagles and from 2nd on the ladder, we limped into the finals and embarrassed ourselves in brisbane. what was it, they'd kick the first 10 goals of the game before we even scored? could have easily have fired voss after that season, there was enough evidence to suggest we were miles behind it.




2023 was the golden season.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 7:22 pm 
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Two questions….

two simple questions…

what do we do right…?

what do we do wrong…?

because we do both…it’s just we do one a bit
better than the other…


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2026 7:33 pm 
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Whether it’s Voss’ fault or the players fault… surely at some point he just says IM OUT

How could anyone want to go through this every week?


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I reckon Brad Scott might be available soon.


havent we suffered enough????

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Voss is the problem because he didn't set the non-negotiables when he started, but it's never too late.
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