Maybe as a rule of thumb, but not always the case.
The saying, "You can't soar like an eagle if you are surrounded by turkeys" comes to mind.

I agree with Carn though, as a club we are always looking for a head to roll like that is the only issue or only way to feel like we have some hope.
The whole is only as good as the sum of its parts and IMO we are a lot better as a team and club than we were before Voss and Cook.
Time to stop the blame game and look for areas we can improve and build on instead.

Yeah , agree we have to stop the witch hunts . Yeah , look to improve and build on what we have . My point being you have a better chance of achieving that if you are strong at the top . The late Frank Costa/Brian Cook ............. Peggy O"Neil/Benny Gale and many other instances . I think basically we are all on the same page .

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List Management thread is a good place to discuss the glaring issue: depth.

Everything else other than Football Mgr is fine.

I think Austin was ok till in influx of kids instead of replacing the 8 experienced best 23 players we lost over the last 2 years. Simple.

Have a feeling Austin will stay on to get this years Trade period the one to balance the scale. He better, or else.

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DeKoning looks gone
SOJ looks gone
Should get a first and second rounder
Agree with Andrew on ASP
Either Cripps or Weitering
Either McKay or Curnow
Either Cerra or Walsh
For me it’s Cripps McKay and Cerra
Get some picks
Use picks to get more kids in and a couple of senior players
Target a Humpries from GC
The club needs pace around the ground
Delist your McGoverns and Fantasias
The rebuild hasn’t worked so start again
With lots of picks from trades Wright can target senior players we need
Pick up some kids including Dean obviously
I get the impression Voss has been told he has to change his selection criteria to keep his job
Make Newman captain and Walsh his deputy

I doubt we move on Cripps unless he asks to leave.

But I do like the idea of relieving him of the captaincy and letting him focus on his footy for his last few years.

Newman isn't a bad shout.

Walsh for VC is ok, too young and injury prone for the top job.

I also don't mind the idea of Haynes being captain. He doesn't seem the type to accept excuses from the playing group.

I disagree. I want the team to be better next year. And Wright agrees. He also indicated Austin and Voss are the major stake holders and decision makers in the List Management Committee - his words. We will not be better next year removing half our better senior players, and for what a lot of picks in a compromised draft(s). No thanks. There will be changes, but to make us better next year.

You can’t play Cripps and Hewett in the one team against the better teams
They don’t hurt you enough in general play
I love Cripps and his toughness and his inside work
But he is a crap kick a liability in defensively and an ordinary captain
Rowell was a similar player to Cripps but now breaks lines in space
Cripps is not getting any better because of age
So trade
Weitering has been ordinary this year
To me he looks too big
A lack of agility
Happy to keep him because we are short of key position player
O’Farrell looks great but is out in 2026 Dean will be a first year player
Cripps has currency times doesn’t stop for anyone
A trade with a team that needs an inside mid

McKay is so soft by by
Curnow needs to @#$%&! grow up
A different captain would help
Curnow needs to be accountable for his onfield performance

Cerra was the fifth ranked mid at Freo
Nothing has changed at Carlton
Walsh can be the player he was if he his injury free
We need to be bold
We have some really good kids
Surround them with the players that will make them thrive

Must come as some relief to hear that Wright is looking to build around the ‘big five’.

For a fleeting moment there, you might’ve had to consider happiness, or at least contentment, as a waking principle.

The arse dropped right out of the global vinegar stocks.

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No change to FS rule this year.
But knowing our luck they will change it next year.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1388205/no-change-to-father-son-rule-state-or-origin-announcement-soon-says-afl-ceo-andrew-dillon

But surely if they announce a rule change next year it won't apply until about 2029 or thereabouts, given that teams would have prepared their lists and picks around the current rules?

That depends, does Carlton have a good kid coming through in 26? There's your answer

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Remember, this is the AFL, king of making shit up as they go along.

Cerra, Cripps, Hewitt Midfield is too samey and slow compared to the best midfields out there. They are all good players, but we need a point of difference in there.

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Jagga says hello .

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Lord is going well also.
I'd still like a mature body mid with speed and skill to be added this year.

Stop playing cripps and Hewett together as a start.
Add Walsh and Jagga for run and we are starting to see some difference.
Rotate Williams, Elijah, Ollie (yes it’s time), Lord or another trade or pick and it’s good enough.

What we need however is more run from the wings and half backs. I hope Cowan, Carroll, Boyd, Cincotta and Wilson start to provide this from the back line next year. Need a winger or two.

When was the last time we were a fast side?

Probably under Ratts slingshot with Yarran and Garlett but aside from that in my entire time watching footy we have never been quick.

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Congratulations CK95

Buckley, Ashman, Marcou, Harmes, Francis, Catoggio, Sheldon, Johnston, Glascott, Maylin…

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Turkish Proverb

Time to play Cripps primarily as a fwd, he can pinch hit in the middle on occasions while George is resting.