or they could get picks if they trade out King?

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Curnow to Gold Coast
You don’t want to be there then FO
In return pick 8,11 and Bailey Humphrey
Just do it
Reckon Wright has shaken the place up already with Docs retirement
Culture has been shit for years

Three of the top four draft picks are Queensland academy players. Does this mean the AFL will get the Queensland clubs to pay market rates for getting these players into their clubs or do they just hand over a meaningless ensemble of picks after pick 45?

Here...have Zeke Uwland with pick 45, 47 and 49.

The AFL will wait until AFTER the horse has bolted and then alter it. Nothing screams "equalisation" more than giving Queensland clubs seemingly sole access to top draft picks.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/ ... 9a62492019

Domanic Akuei (delisted), Jack Caroll (delisted), David Cuningham (delisted), Sam Durdin (delisted), Matt Kennedy (trade, Western Bulldogs), Caleb Marchbank (delisted), Jack Martin (delisted), Alex Mirkov (delisted), Matt Owies (trade, West Coast)

Most of them couldn't get on the park! The only players on that list who could get a regular game were an inside mid (of which we have oversupply and HE requested the move) and a small forward (last time I looked, we weren't short there either)
We bought in a defender (Haynes) who has probably been in our best 5 performers. And a gun draftee who could offer skills our other mids are incapable of.

If the players cant handle their broken down hack mates being moved on to improve the list, bad @#$%&! luck. It's not a social club. It's an elite sporting club and the paying members deserve elite performance and behaviours. If the players can't handle that, they're not the players we need.

The club won't "pay for this in years to come". It will only get stronger. 30 years with zero success. The pandering needs to stop. And if your post has any credibility (which I highly doubt), then this is exactly the time.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Yes as the rules have already been changed.
GC have admitted that they will struggle to obtain all their academy players this year so I can imagine they would be willing to pay a decent price for our DeKoning compensation.

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Curnow will NOT be playing for Gold Coast.

Very tactical, I like it.

It’s fairly obvious Docherty has been tapped on the shoulder
Take out the emotional ride
The ride ends sometime
Go back to that final last year
Should never put his hand up to play
The leadership group the coaching staff should never have approved it
This year he has played selfish footy
Nick Stevens like with cheap and easy stats
Since your getting paid for the season why not go back to the reserves and help Charleston etc
Have your farewell game in round 24
Nah I want my own farewell game because if I have it in the last round it will probably be shared by a few others
This leadership group needs big changes
It’s started
If Curnow wants out let him go for a big price
Would love Humphrey at the club the type of player we need
Simply put put individuals before the club your [REDACTED]

If we let JSOS go can we bring in a FA without diluting the TDK compo?

Well, there ya go. Cheers Humpers.

Moot point though. We want Jack to stay.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

The secret herbs & spices formula uses a bunch of different variables to calculate a points total for each free agent. Despite their best efforts to paint a different picture, none of the variables are as important as salary.

I think it was Twomey (league mouthpiece) who mentioned that $900k/year was the trigger for Band 1 compensation, which is the top 5% of all contracts.

Tom’s got $1.8m in front of him.

I’d reckon we’ve got some leeway, but if they turn around & say that Band 1 $900k is the same as Band 1 $1.8m, well… that would be right on brand.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

So at this stage it looks like some are happy to let Charlie, JSOS and TDK go and then consider Trading McKay.

And Keogh gracious as always, tells Doc after 184 games, 2 knee reco's and 2 bouts of Cancer.....'Don't let the door hit you on the way out.' You are always a joy to have here on TC.

It's funny some want to trade away our best for draft picks and yet those same folks have zero faith in our recruiters. TC is always entertaining.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

And I said take the emotion of what he has been through out of it
My name sake was a great player because he put the club first
Harmes went across Trevor’s knee in a practice match
In 1980
In 1981 he still managed to help our reserves instructing younger players
Same in 1982
Same age as Docherty now
Talk to those players from that era and everyone of them will tell you that not being about you attitudes was the reason for our success
You missed the point completely
I of course admire what resilience the guy has
He has been a very good player for us and been an asset of the field
But I haven’t liked his last year
That’s fair enough

Anyway I hope Wilson will get 4 senior games after Thursday
We all have a used by date
As for Charlie if we got a really good deal done I’m all for a trade

Nope Curnow, McKay, Walsh stay. Get rid of the coaches and work together to build culture again.

They have contracts so lets not be soft and give away good players to help other clubs........

Some of the comments make me laugh. Lets get rid of everyone and be shit forever.

Its not about ability this year, its clear that the club is not happy.

I was worried about Voss and what happened at Brisbane and its happening now that players are not happy.

So lets stop talking about getting rid of our best players and get rid of these coaches and fix footy dept 1st before being so drastic !!

We can afford to lose TDK but not Charlie or Mckay. Be realistic.

You judge a guy on how those that know him, talk about him. Find one person in the AFL or life, who has met Doc, who would speak ill of him?

12 years at a club and gave his all. John Nicholls medal winner, AA. And you don't want to show any emotion. Why? AFL is all emotion for supporters. Why do you think TC is feral after every loss and even some wins?

Your argument is disappointing. How do you know what Doc does/did at the club during his rehab for injuries and Cancer? How do you know who he has inspired whilst he rehabbed with so many kids coming through.

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/18382 ... ble-career

"Doingitfordoc" raised $219,000 for the Peter Mac Cancer Foundation.

As though that wasn’t enough, Docherty also stepped up to be an Observer to the Board of the Peter Mac Foundation and has been committed to doing all he can since to raising much-needed funds towards cancer research.

In a testament to the impact he has made, Docherty has been instrumental in fundraising for the Peter Mac Cup - played annually between Carlton

I try to understand your point of view on occasion, but times like this, I just shake my head and wonder why you would try to bring down such a wonderful human being.

If you ever met him, you would never dream of posting as you have.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

I wonder if the club are happy to let JSOS go if it means they can bring in say, O’Brien, and keep the first round compo. Effectively trading for him

I guess some people enjoyed the 2015 - 2019 era so much they want to go back there again... Green shoots! Just a reminder our record was 26 - 84 in those 5 years

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Cazzeman
I keep coming back to the main point which is the club is bigger than any individual
Docherty has been a great ambassador for fighting cancer research
He has a very good tactical brain when it comes to footy
In the main he has been a great asset and example to many people
But I could say that about many people I know personally
Or from other role models in the arts sport even some politicians
But in the end there is to a degree a “ I also don’t give a shit”
Life begins
Life ends
As you get older you realise it ain’t that big a deal
Your ego should lesson because with maturity you realise you a just a tiny pimple on a big arse
Probably not a great analogy but it’s true

I was incredibly annoyed last year when Docherty was selected in that final
Sorry but that’s bullshit
Not even Gary Ablett senior should be selected in those circumstances
Being a good bloke shouldn’t guarantee you a selection
As I said it’s team first
That’s all I care about
Clearly with this leadership group it’s about them
I actually feel sorry for the young players who have leadership on the field or more so lack of leadership
On the field
The best part about this year has been seeing more young talent
That’s a positive despite real good leadership at the top being non existent
The fact is Cazzeman Docherty has been granted games in the last month at the expense of of Wilson’s selection
Why play him for one game and then drop him
That’s disgraceful
Watching Murphy limp to 300 then immediately retiring was disgraceful
At least with Docherty there is a harder line
To be successful in team sport sometimes you have to be a callous organisation
Because the team comes first

We would probably need to use the JSOS compensation to help get the points required for Dean who is shaping as a top 15 draft prospect.

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20-30 at most. Late first round.

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