I love the idea of Jack Silvagni captain. Cripps is getting tired. He's had his time. Free him up.

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If his body was more reliable, I'd be all for this. Plays for the jumper, always gives 100%.

We need to get out of this mindset of "well, he's the best player, make him captain".

I keep thinking about Nick bloody Maxwell for Collingwood as an example of how that doesn't need to be the case.

Not that it helps us now, but if he keeps developing, I can see Ollie being a contender in 5+ years.

Jack threw the toys out of the cot Thursday.
Very undisciplined display

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exactly. meanwhile cripps shrunk himself and hid in the grass and we barely knew he existed.

we need someone who will lead, take accountability and ask for it. no, demand it.

Hang on, were threats actually made to him and his family, or is this a pre-emptive action by the club?

There's a massive difference between the two.

If it's the former, then it's absolutely warranted.

If however it is the latter, to me that's another sign of the absolute contempt that the club and board have towards it's supporters and they now want to paint us as deranged criminals.

I didn't notice anything aside from being very loose on his opponent at times. Did you see anything specific? Not Tom Lynch calibre, I hope

Injured again

Found the Melbourne Victory member…

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JSOS played with a groin injury for most of the game, he'll be out for weeks. Showed good leadership and discipline to stay on and play through the pain and discomfort.

he's had the groin from the same match he broke his hand in. i wonder why we kept playing him when we knew he was lame?

I know the answer to this.

It's the same reason Weitering was told to play while lame, and why Cripps was told to play while sick.

It's not "next man up", it's "superman up".

So much for the " one soldier down..." netality, when we dont have depth on this list.

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All would have been cleared by the doctor to play!

Aye, but doctors still rely on honest patient feedback, hence that annoying "how would you rate the pain on a scale of 1 to 10?" Like, @#$%&!, I don't know, I've never been hung drawn & quartered so it's hard to say what a 10 would be... uh, 6.5? Anyway, you can imagine Crippa and Weits saying "'tis a mere surface wound!" and going out there with one functioning limb and thinking @#$%&! yeah, look at me showing leadership!

They should be tested on the ground.
If they look lame, and smell lame, they are lame.

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Weiters looked very uncomfortable in the PA warm-ups. Crippa looked like he was going to vomit. Both passed fit. I said it in the pre-match thread, get HOF on. Infuriating.

Errr....no....

Perhaps they should be putting the boys through a Francis Bourke/Mick Malthouse test before they are passed fit?
I think it is a part of our culture which is all over the place.
We kind of get it right but stuff it up on the nuance….

It is kind of admirable that our leaders insist on playing even while carrying an injury. But only if they are able to push through the pain to contribute a meaningful role. Not if they are hobbled and have us effectively a man or three down.

It is similarly admirable that Cripps wants to put the team on his back, as captain, when things are falling apart. I remember Judd did that a few times and Cripps has done so many times too. But not when it means burning a free player to try and do it all on your own.

It makes sense to stick fat (where does that term come from and what the hell does it mean?) with the coach, given our history. But many bad decisions to sack the coach in the past don’t automatically mean we should keep the wrong guy in the chair now (FWIW, I’m not advocating that we should sack Voss. I feel like the best option may be to replace a couple of assistants, plus move on a few players…. BUT if the reason we will keep Voss is that historically we’ve sacked too many coaches, that is not a strong rationale).

And while I’m on culture, I feel like our players are too easily lauded before achieving anything. I imagine players like Selwood, Hodge, Mitchell, Dangerfield… would sell their grandmother to win a coin toss at a local sports night! Our whole team seems to think a Premiership will just fall into our laps if we play a good quarter, or string 3 reasonable games together! The players above could win multiple premierships and still be spitting chips if they lost a game!

The tone for this season was set in the first game against Richmond. We got ahead of ourselves, just like we did after quarter time last season against GWS. And it was then reinforced in the subsequent few games, all of which were winnable.

We are putting a lot of faith in Graeme Wright to fix us. I hope he knows what he is doing!

If Voss is retained next year it may come down to integrity and financial considerations. We have paid out a few coaches before their contracted end time. We may want to buck the trend and treat people with a bit more respect.

We will do a mini review at the end of the season without calling it that. We may tinker at the edges of list management, coaching and players. But if at this time next year we are in the same mess then Voss is out on his ear.

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