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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:59 pm 
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The more I reflect on this performance, the more disgusted I get.

What gives them the right? They’ve achieved nothing.

Just spitting in the faces of all us idiots who continue to support.

The lack of urgency, spirit, fight and pressure was damning. Got absolutely monstered by North. North!

I still can’t get over how we move the ball and the lack of any movement whatsoever ahead of the ball. Mind blowingly bad.

It is a disgrace that we are back here again.


Fact that North are coached by Clarkson makes it even harder to take . Ian Aitkin Cup .

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:11 pm 
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Today signalled the beginning of the end for Voss, I have no doubt. And it's absolutely the fault of the players. But it's also the fault of his assistants. And ultimately it's his own fault because whatever it is that the best coaches going around have that extracts the best out of a playing group, Voss doesn't have.

Today's performance was nothing short of a @#$%&! disgrace
All of this.
This is the first time I have doubted Voss to the extent of let him go.
There is now an obvious gap between players and Voss and I also reckon it is also on them.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:19 pm 
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forget everything else ....

i just cant get past the fact that no one went in for Hewitt ...

forget what happens next week, forget what happens when the heat has been applied ...

the club had a chance to stand up for itself, and it didnt, it let it pass without a wimper ... that is the damning thing ... and i just cant resolve it my head that Voss would allow this to happen ... its not the way he played and lead his team ..



forget everything else

until we start playing for each other, nothing else matters.


Massive agreement on this, our players in both AFL and VFL allowed themselves to be bullied all day without a whimper. What a bunch of softcocks and nice mummy’s boys we have recruited, our leadership group are a bunch of whimps.

It wasn’t just Hewett, Saad also was flattened at least twice and none of our players did anything.



i make mention of weitering as well

went down like a season ending injury ... i said at the time, i will give it 15 mins, he has a history with this ...

next quarter, its like the messiah rising from the dead ... and we clapped him ... he is a great player, perfect backman, but gee ... as hard as melted butter.

something isnt right with this club.

im all for being gentleman and pillars of the community of the field, but on it, should never shirk an issue, otherwise we get blokes like Simpkon showing up as the "hardman"


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No longer playing for each other.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:28 pm 
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I notice we have some people saying the team has downed tools on Voss, others saying they've turned on each other. I am leaning more towards the latter. I think if the players wanted Voss gone they wouldn't have won the final quarter 35-0 after copping a spray, they'd have said @#$%&! off ranga and let the final nail settle. The repeated failure to stand up for one another - who can forget Amartey assaulting Boyd when the game was already done, then rubbingit in with a goal? - and rumours of the EH situation driving a wedge between players, and H having mental health problems, players burning team mates who are wide open or in better positions... I would not be surprised to learn that factions had emerged within the squad and personal enmities festering.

Replacing the coach and expecting this list to turn it around seems more and more a fool's errand.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:34 pm 
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I notice we have some people saying the team has downed tools on Voss, others saying they've turned on each other. I am leaning more towards the latter. I think if the players wanted Voss gone they wouldn't have won the final quarter 35-0 after copping a spray, they'd have said @#$%&! off ranga and let the final nail settle. The repeated failure to stand up for one another - who can forget Amartey assaulting Boyd when the game was already done, then rubbingit in with a goal? - and rumours of the EH situation driving a wedge between players, and H having mental health problems, players burning team mates who are wide open or in better positions... I would not be surprised to learn that factions had emerged within the squad and personal enmities festering.

Replacing the coach and expecting this list to turn it around seems more and more a fool's errand.

Excellent post GX .

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:00 pm 
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tap in 79 wrote:
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tap in 79 wrote:
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what on earth are you on about?

Ashcroft going okay?

All I am saying is you know nothing of current bloke apart from that he is from finance, that's it but because he isn't a she he must be [REDACTED]..stupid thinking really.

list and suspect the club may have come to the same conclusion last year. Of course we will never know.


every where


Isn’t Brisbane lucky to use the fathers-son rule to pick up THE best player in the draft by handing over rubbish picks in the 50s or whatever?
Ashcroft will be a legendary player. Not hard to pick him. Don’t need to be a recruiting genius.

This year’s draft will further the process with fathers-sons/academy picks meaning you will wait until the 20s at least to get a pick.

The AFL wants the loophole to persist. A fair competition would have made them pay market rates for Ashcroft etc.. but Naah.

Match committee.. bit confused by why they pick Pittonet. The winning ratio with him in drops significantly.. even in 2023. If you have a ruckman who can’t mark the ball… there’s not much point.

Justin Madden in his heyday could take 11 marks in a game. It would take 11 matches for Pittonet get this total. Young can mark the ball. Yes he has deficiencies, but not as much as Pittonet.
Once they picked him I knew the game was cactus.


Pitto is lame. He's not going to last 100 minutes of footy. Young too light for Xerri
He was picked to counter Xerri, who tore TDK a new one last time they met.
Yesterday we looked better with Pitto vs Xerri. see first quarter
Everytime TDK went in the ruck Xerri fed his mids. see 2nd quarter

That was highlighted ad nauseum during the Fox covergae by Gerard Healey, and his co hosts. Pitto nullified Xerris impact, and TDK didnt.

We were cactus because we were up against an inform team, growing by thje week, and their mids brutalised our mids.
When our mids fail, we fail. Nothing to do with Pitto or Young's selection non selection. Weak as piss.

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Sorry, but I’m sticking by my opinion.
“Nullified” .. doesn’t really do much.
Rickmen today aren’t just bash and smash ruckmen.. the Collingwood ruckman kicked 2 or 3 goals in their match.
Pitto is one dimensional.
He might “nullify” but that doesn’t win you games.
If Young was playing.. charging down to the forward line, the North ruck would have to follow him (using up petrol tickets)
Young is lighter.. yes.. but in today’s football not really a hindrance (in my opinion)


Nothing to be sorry about tap. If anything I miss you.

I'm just highlighting why Pitto was selected. It wasn't a surprise.
A few of us picked Pitto to play vs Xerri for reasons I outlined.

I agree with all you say. I did say Pitto was lame.
What I will say in response is nullify is better than being beaten. WEe weren't beaten by Pitto nullifying, and we didnt lose because of Pitto. Ive got the real culprits for todays performance in my firing line. I don't need to fire at Pitto, he'll just fizzle away.

When TDK took on the ruck in the 2nd because Pitto was rooted, and couldnt play forward, Xerri showed why Pitto was selected.

I'm a fan of Young too.

Ive got blue coloured glasses on, because they are the best we have in reserve. Says a lot about our depth and our list.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:05 pm 
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BluesRockMyWorld wrote:
ScottSaunders2 wrote:
forget everything else ....

i just cant get past the fact that no one went in for Hewitt ...

forget what happens next week, forget what happens when the heat has been applied ...

the club had a chance to stand up for itself, and it didnt, it let it pass without a wimper ... that is the damning thing ... and i just cant resolve it my head that Voss would allow this to happen ... its not the way he played and lead his team ..



forget everything else

until we start playing for each other, nothing else matters.


100% agree.

Vossy made it quite clear in his presser that he thought the team got bullied. He also made a direct point in regard to his 3qtr time spray saying it was directed at everyone not just "Lord". I looked at the footage and you could see his eyes darting so he wasn't focused on "one" person. You can bet you bottom dollar, he was filthy then and will be mega filthy in the review. He had hints of smoke coming out of his ears at his presser (and so he should have).

I havent read all of the posts in this thread, but the biggest concern I have is that basically no one, not one player especially our Captain Cripps looked or played like they really cared or worse - that they were interested.... Its heartbreaking to see this. Its like none of the have the desire, spirit or respect to our Club to at least give a shit and play with some heart and soul, some vigor and toughness (especially at contests - Voss was right - we let them bully us and the players just wilted).

This is a common theme across a number of losses - not just yesterday.


Amen to both of you.

Softcocks.

Just try and imagine being a player in this team. Think Hewett, and that hit was you. And your mates just left yopu there gasping for air. That's the clarkson way, unsociable. I really thought that a Vossy team would be all that and more, when we comparte Clarkson and Voss as players.

Picked choir boys, and haven't fired them up. Austin and Voss.

The point about Vossy's assistants is so spot on. WTF do they add. They are assissystants.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:14 pm 
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Xerri is in all Australian form, I’d say nullifying him was a huge win for us. He dominated TDK every time we took Pitto out of the ruck. What was worse was TDK couldn’t even beat their second ruck. One thing we did get right was picking Pittonet for yesterday’s match.

Also I disagree with you bindi that TDK is a ruck fwd, he’s shown nothing as a fwd. Yesterday was his big chance to make his case as a fwd. he failed masively. Hopefully we can get a couple of good picks for him as he’s a list clogger for us. Not good enough as first ruck, not good enough as ruck/fwd.


Well said till you got to....

Bindi ? Its Bondi mate

I thought it was cool being called Bondi thinking I was on trend and cool, but they called me Bondi because I wasn't Manly.

If TDK doesnt mark the ball, and hes getting better with his marking, he brings the ball down better than Charlie and Harry for smalls to do their work. He also is good on the ground ball. Ball yesterday when it went forward TDK looked dangerous and created danger for the opp. Maybe the players players played taller with his there. Mate, the ball didnt really go near the forwardline after the 1st and thereafter Pitto only showed up for cameos. TDK played ruck a lot more than Pitto after first quarter.

Piss him off too, and take the pick. I aint paying $1M for him. I'd rather pay OBrien 600K or Cameron $700K which is more than Crows and Pies are offering.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:22 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
BluesRockMyWorld wrote:
ScottSaunders2 wrote:
forget everything else ....

i just cant get past the fact that no one went in for Hewitt ...

forget what happens next week, forget what happens when the heat has been applied ...

the club had a chance to stand up for itself, and it didnt, it let it pass without a wimper ... that is the damning thing ... and i just cant resolve it my head that Voss would allow this to happen ... its not the way he played and lead his team ..



forget everything else

until we start playing for each other, nothing else matters.


100% agree.

Vossy made it quite clear in his presser that he thought the team got bullied. He also made a direct point in regard to his 3qtr time spray saying it was directed at everyone not just "Lord". I looked at the footage and you could see his eyes darting so he wasn't focused on "one" person. You can bet you bottom dollar, he was filthy then and will be mega filthy in the review. He had hints of smoke coming out of his ears at his presser (and so he should have).

I havent read all of the posts in this thread, but the biggest concern I have is that basically no one, not one player especially our Captain Cripps looked or played like they really cared or worse - that they were interested.... Its heartbreaking to see this. Its like none of the have the desire, spirit or respect to our Club to at least give a shit and play with some heart and soul, some vigor and toughness (especially at contests - Voss was right - we let them bully us and the players just wilted).

This is a common theme across a number of losses - not just yesterday.


Amen to both of you.

Softcocks.

Just try and imagine being a player in this team. Think Hewett, and that hit was you. And your mates just left yopu there gasping for air. That's the clarkson way, unsociable. I really thought that a Vossy team would be all that and more, when we comparte Clarkson and Voss as players.

Picked choir boys, and haven't fired them up. Austin and Voss.

The point about Vossy's assistants is so spot on. WTF do they add. They are assissystants.


Bit harsh on the Choir boys there Bondi .................... the lead singer in my sons band was a former Choir boy . Beautiful singer . Anyhow , they were playing a gig one night and one of the singers mates got into a punch up in the mosh pit . The singer jumped off stage mid song to back his mate . The kid as well as being able to hit a note could also hit heads . Bang bang bang . Dropped three in about 3 seconds . He could go . 100 % true story . Moral of the story is if a choirboy can go into bat for his mate WTF are our blokes doing .

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:11 am 
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Can someone tell Voss to tell the players that if they kick the ball backwards it puts pressure on us? If they kick the ball forward it puts pressure on them.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:16 am 
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Just watched the 1st and last quarter of Saturdays game. Haven't seen a more dominant display of football by the Blues. Roos barely get it past halfway.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:30 am 
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Mickstar wrote:
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I notice we have some people saying the team has downed tools on Voss, others saying they've turned on each other. I am leaning more towards the latter. I think if the players wanted Voss gone they wouldn't have won the final quarter 35-0 after copping a spray, they'd have said @#$%&! off ranga and let the final nail settle. The repeated failure to stand up for one another - who can forget Amartey assaulting Boyd when the game was already done, then rubbingit in with a goal? - and rumours of the EH situation driving a wedge between players, and H having mental health problems, players burning team mates who are wide open or in better positions... I would not be surprised to learn that factions had emerged within the squad and personal enmities festering.

Replacing the coach and expecting this list to turn it around seems more and more a fool's errand.

Excellent post GX .

Good logic GEX.
And more likely the truth of the situation.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:32 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
BluesRockMyWorld wrote:
ScottSaunders2 wrote:
forget everything else ....

i just cant get past the fact that no one went in for Hewitt ...

forget what happens next week, forget what happens when the heat has been applied ...

the club had a chance to stand up for itself, and it didnt, it let it pass without a wimper ... that is the damning thing ... and i just cant resolve it my head that Voss would allow this to happen ... its not the way he played and lead his team ..



forget everything else

until we start playing for each other, nothing else matters.


100% agree.

Vossy made it quite clear in his presser that he thought the team got bullied. He also made a direct point in regard to his 3qtr time spray saying it was directed at everyone not just "Lord". I looked at the footage and you could see his eyes darting so he wasn't focused on "one" person. You can bet you bottom dollar, he was filthy then and will be mega filthy in the review. He had hints of smoke coming out of his ears at his presser (and so he should have).

I havent read all of the posts in this thread, but the biggest concern I have is that basically no one, not one player especially our Captain Cripps looked or played like they really cared or worse - that they were interested.... Its heartbreaking to see this. Its like none of the have the desire, spirit or respect to our Club to at least give a shit and play with some heart and soul, some vigor and toughness (especially at contests - Voss was right - we let them bully us and the players just wilted).

This is a common theme across a number of losses - not just yesterday.


Amen to both of you.

Softcocks.

Just try and imagine being a player in this team. Think Hewett, and that hit was you. And your mates just left yopu there gasping for air. That's the clarkson way, unsociable. I really thought that a Vossy team would be all that and more, when we comparte Clarkson and Voss as players.

Picked choir boys, and haven't fired them up. Austin and Voss.

The point about Vossy's assistants is so spot on. WTF do they add. They are assissystants.

They'd probably get injured trying to be that hard.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:49 am 
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GreatEx wrote:

Replacing the coach and expecting this list to turn it around seems more and more a fool's errand.



that would only be half the job. we need a new coach, and we need to let some of our assets go, and top up the list around a more modern gameplan. we need both.

voss isn't the man for the job, he still thinks big strong bodies, and winning the contest is the formula. it was never the formula, and since the HTB interpretation changes mid season, 2024, it's even more of a fool's errand to persist with that gamestyle and system.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:41 am 
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Braithy wrote:
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Replacing the coach and expecting this list to turn it around seems more and more a fool's errand.



that would only be half the job. we need a new coach, and we need to let some of our assets go, and top up the list around a more modern gameplan. we need both.

voss isn't the man for the job, he still thinks big strong bodies, and winning the contest is the formula. it was never the formula, and since the HTB interpretation changes mid season, 2024, it's even more of a fool's errand to persist with that gamestyle and system.

If this was the case then why did we bring in only 1 mature player in 2024 trade period?
And as for a strong body contested game plan, it seems to be working out for well Collingwood and Geelong.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:48 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
sinbagger wrote:

Xerri is in all Australian form, I’d say nullifying him was a huge win for us. He dominated TDK every time we took Pitto out of the ruck. What was worse was TDK couldn’t even beat their second ruck. One thing we did get right was picking Pittonet for yesterday’s match.

Also I disagree with you bindi that TDK is a ruck fwd, he’s shown nothing as a fwd. Yesterday was his big chance to make his case as a fwd. he failed masively. Hopefully we can get a couple of good picks for him as he’s a list clogger for us. Not good enough as first ruck, not good enough as ruck/fwd.


Well said till you got to....

Bindi ? Its Bondi mate

I thought it was cool being called Bondi thinking I was on trend and cool, but they called me Bondi because I wasn't Manly.

If TDK doesnt mark the ball, and hes getting better with his marking, he brings the ball down better than Charlie and Harry for smalls to do their work. He also is good on the ground ball. Ball yesterday when it went forward TDK looked dangerous and created danger for the opp. Maybe the players players played taller with his there. Mate, the ball didnt really go near the forwardline after the 1st and thereafter Pitto only showed up for cameos. TDK played ruck a lot more than Pitto after first quarter.

Piss him off too, and take the pick. I aint paying $1M for him. I'd rather pay OBrien 600K or Cameron $700K which is more than Crows and Pies are offering.


Bindi was just auto-correct that I couldn't be bothered going back on manually correcting, plus I wanted to see if you felt the prick :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:52 am 
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club29 wrote:
Just watched the 1st and last quarter of Saturdays game. Haven't seen a more dominant display of football by the Blues. Roos barely get it past halfway.


we kicked 7.11 in the first and last quarter (and many of those 11 points were very easy shots), they kicked 12.3 in the second and third.....


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Mickstar wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
I notice we have some people saying the team has downed tools on Voss, others saying they've turned on each other. I am leaning more towards the latter. I think if the players wanted Voss gone they wouldn't have won the final quarter 35-0 after copping a spray, they'd have said @#$%&! off ranga and let the final nail settle. The repeated failure to stand up for one another - who can forget Amartey assaulting Boyd when the game was already done, then rubbingit in with a goal? - and rumours of the EH situation driving a wedge between players, and H having mental health problems, players burning team mates who are wide open or in better positions... I would not be surprised to learn that factions had emerged within the squad and personal enmities festering.

Replacing the coach and expecting this list to turn it around seems more and more a fool's errand.

Excellent post GX .


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sinbagger wrote:
club29 wrote:
Just watched the 1st and last quarter of Saturdays game. Haven't seen a more dominant display of football by the Blues. Roos barely get it past halfway.


we kicked 7.11 in the first and last quarter (and many of those 11 points were very easy shots), they kicked 12.3 in the second and third.....

And that is the game.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:43 pm 
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The rest of the team should pay for George's fine in penance for not having the guts to stick up for him on the field

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1349527/mat ... hers-cited


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