After the success Collingwood have had with McRae, I suspect Wright will take a similar path and look for a highly rated assistant who has been part of success at other clubs. I doubt Simpson would be on the radar


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age profile is more ready, than say the green shoots bolton inherited, yeah?


this same list was on the up in 2023. only coaching an archaic gameplan - further compounded by the new HTB interpretation midseason, 2024 - is the difference.

let tdk go, chase a free agent or 2 with his money, trade harry out, bring in another 2 players, re-sign jack, add jagga to the mix, send cripps forward ala dangerfield, we aren't far away, imo. things turn around really quickly with the right coaching.

Our list was considered potential top 4 by many (even on here) Carlton fans before round 1...

Now some of them want to blow up the list?

Plan A looks ok when we're allowed to execute it, but when opposition teams change it up or turn up the heat, we're unable to respond.

When the Roos did it to us in the 2nd qtr... how did (serious Q) our coaches box respond to it?

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I do not give a @#$%&! who coaches us. I just want to win.

ˆˆˆyep ... same.

Those who think Wright will save the club are deluded.

There is little evidence to suggest that any high-profile, non-player signing at Carlton in recent decades has been able to single-handedly "save" the club or deliver a transformative turnaround.

Here’s a list of notable non-player signings (coaches, executives, and key staff) at Carlton since 2010:

Presidents:

Stephen Kernahan (until 2014)
Mark LoGiudice (2014–2021)
Luke Sayers (2021–2025)
Robert Priestley (2025–)

Chief Executive Officers:

Greg Swann (until 2014)
Steven Trigg (2014–2017)
Cain Liddle (2017–2021)
Brian Cook (2021–2025)
Graham Wright (appointed Deputy CEO in 2025, set to become CEO)

Senior Coaches:

Brett Ratten (until 2012)
Mick Malthouse (2013–2015)
Brendon Bolton (2016–2019)
David Teague (2019–2021)
Michael Voss (2022–present)

Key Football Department Appointments:

Tom Lonergan (Development and Talent Manager, 2023–)
Brad Ebert (Development Coach, 2023–)
Torin Baker (Academy and Development Coach, 2021–)
Aaron Greaves (Coaching and Performance Manager, 2022–)
Ashley Hansen (Senior Assistant Coach)
Aaron Hamill (Backline Coach)
Tim Clarke (Midfield Coach)

Fitness:

Steven Tiricola – Strength and Conditioning Coach.
Andrew Russell – Head of High Performance (joined from Hawthorn in 2018; highly regarded in the AFL industry).
Luke Power – Development and high-performance roles (also served as VFL coach)

Looking for a savior just doesn't work at Carlton.

With the list they put together because they thought that this style of footy would win, it wouldn't matter who coaches the club. A number of us said it pre-season. Wrong list for the modern game. The list needs a major overhaul and I'm somewhat confident over 2 years the new CEO will demand it. If not, I'm quite seriously in favour of A.I leading the list management. I reckon it'd do a better job.

VossGPT is getting so good at press conferences.

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Congratulations CK95

i dont care either way anymore

he stays, we will have a shit game plan

he goes, we start again and the players show they can wag the dog

we are just rooted

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my last one was rubbish

Consecutive posts

free agents, not draft picks. ie trade picks for players we identify we need. a winger, a QB type of halfback, 2 small forwards.


reading it back, my post was not really clear - but my thoughts were. bondi i think it was said we lead the afl with kids aged under 21 on the books. we don't need picks this year or next, other than the father sons dean & walker.

we need to fill up on 23-28 year olds in the prime. or about to hit it, imo

OK I agree with that, our age profile is shite. Although ironically TDK is at the perfect age.

he is ... his price is so inflated though.

i think what wright can do with the money and compo from harry and tdk could go a very long way to solving our list issues. just need a coach at that point, and i think we're not too far off.

I would seriously keep Harry and trade Charlie. Irrational after a shit game but this is where my mind is at

Happens when you give away all your depth for a packet of chips


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not irrational. harry has missed a lot this year, but he is a better option. curnow gives little else aside from being a forward. i think his knees wont hold up to being a winger or centre player, while mckay can ruck and will lead up the ground to mark (or drop them and turn the tide like against gws....)

my personal non negotiables now are basically down to three of the senior players - jsos, hewitt and weiters. the rest could all be trade bait for all i care

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my last one was rubbish

Yes and no.
We have a massive gap in the middle IIRC.
I'll need to check up on that.

As for 2023, I think we all know there was flaws in the team make up, we were playing on false beliefs and we had issues then but little injuries.
Also the game hadn't evolved and team like the Hawks hadn't really capitalised on the chaos run and carry game that is more and more prevalent.
So is the game plan archaic or has the game style speed up faster than what most of our players can handle.
That piece that Cazz posted about chaos v control in the live games thread would have a lot more to do with it if I was a betting man.
When we play it they score, when the opposition play it they score.
But no matter which way you want to argue it, if players can't hit targets, drop marks and don't make space it wouldn't matter who was coaching or what structure or game plan you had.
Like I said in another post I think recruiting and the club banked on the reduction in interchanges and added endurance over speed and skill to an already slow list and here we are.

I agree with your last line, I've been saying it all year and last draft trade period.
We royally F'ed, the club overvalued the list and we traded out 2 experienced players and only brought 1 back in when we are in a supposed window.
That window is closed now, for this years and possibly next at least.

The real question is what did you expect them to do?
Our best midfield minus Walsh were getting pantsed by a younger midfield.
Parker killed us this time around, Cripps and Cerra disappeared and only Hewett can hold his head up.
We tried Motlop, Lord and Williams to no avail.
We had Acres and Doc on the outside delivering rubbish for over half a game.
Then we had Charlie getting pantsed by a 22 game veteran.
Our goal kicking was woeful.
I'm not sure what else you expected them to do.
The one thing that could've worked was pressure, but we went missing for the 2nd and 3rd quarters in that department.
Running around like headless chickens.
On game day coaches can move a few pieces and tinker with the game plan but the rest is up to the players.
And today we can add the Roos to the list of teams that can out run us.