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bit of a worry if he cant do it at training!

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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bondiblue wrote:
carntheblues wrote:
I also noticed that passage from Young - same old; indecisive


The MC back in 2022 had a lot of confidence in Young's ability to mark a ball.
Young was programmed to hold the ball till he sees a better option back in 2022. He use to rush it a bit.
He hasn't been able to shake that.

Someone has to get into his head, this preseason. I'm sure theres' drills he can do in the next few months to get him moving. If he doesn't, his name will be on the trade list again come seasons end.

Surely he watches replays with his line coach and they are talking about the problem he has, and the effect it has on the team's ball movement.



You would think so!


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this is where coaching has to get inventive.

young's 1-wood is his defensive marking and making a contest. some of those small running halfbacks need to peel back around him for the handball or give and go. take the ball off young and let him do what he does (and does it rather well)


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bondiblue wrote:
carntheblues wrote:
I also noticed that passage from Young - same old; indecisive


The MC back in 2022 had a lot of confidence in Young's ability to mark a ball.
Young was programmed to hold the ball till he sees a better option back in 2022. He use to rush it a bit.
He hasn't been able to shake that.

Someone has to get into his head, this preseason. I'm sure theres' drills he can do in the next few months to get him moving. If he doesn't, his name will be on the trade list again come seasons end.

Surely he watches replays with his line coach and they are talking about the problem he has, and the effect it has on the team's ball movement.



I’m not sure which Young you are referring to. He’s always been like a “deer in the headlights” when he’s holding the ball.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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Braithy wrote:
this is where coaching has to get inventive.

young's 1-wood is his defensive marking and making a contest. some of those small running halfbacks need to peel back around him for the handball or give and go. take the ball off young and let him do what he does (and does it rather well)


Good suggestion Braithy . Play to his strengths .

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Braithy wrote:
this is where coaching has to get inventive.

young's 1-wood is his defensive marking and making a contest. some of those small running halfbacks need to peel back around him for the handball or give and go. take the ball off young and let him do what he does (and does it rather well)



Isn't that what we got the Campo's for! They can learn from their dads highlights. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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If Weitering gets a long term injury we are in serious trouble


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Hoping for Round 1 line up of:

B Newman Weitering Boyd
HB Haynes McGovern Saad
C Acres Cripps O Hollands
HF E Hollands Big H Fogarty
F Williams Charlie Kemp
R TDK Walsh Hewitt
Int Cerra Doc J Smith JSOS
Sub Cincotta

Cincotta to sub on and shutdown whoever is the problem opposition player
Flexibility with JSOS, Kemp and McG forward or back
Cerra, Doc - MID/HB
Smith HF/MID

Others in the mix - depending on form and injuries to the above.
B Cowan L Camporeale Young Wilson
C Cottrell Binns
F Moir Motlop Durdin Fantasia
R Pitto B Camporeale Lord

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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AGRO wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
carntheblues wrote:
I also noticed that passage from Young - same old; indecisive


The MC back in 2022 had a lot of confidence in Young's ability to mark a ball.
Young was programmed to hold the ball till he sees a better option back in 2022. He use to rush it a bit.
He hasn't been able to shake that.

Someone has to get into his head, this preseason. I'm sure theres' drills he can do in the next few months to get him moving. If he doesn't, his name will be on the trade list again come seasons end.

Surely he watches replays with his line coach and they are talking about the problem he has, and the effect it has on the team's ball movement.



I’m not sure which Young you are referring to. He’s always been like a “deer in the headlights” when he’s holding the ball.


Mick Young...oh yeah, he's not with us anymore.

Lewis Young. He had his good times, when he was, as we all said, "doing well" filling in for McDonald after round 4. He wasn't hesitant like he became in 2023.

He got caught out playing on when he shouldn't and WAS advised to give handball off to Saady, Doc or Newman.

Maybe you are scarred by bad Lewis, and can't recall any good Lewis. He was OK early days. His confidence was totally shot around the so called wrath of Weitering.

We've sen him play with confidence. That's what I recall.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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Good video on the club website with the Irish boys sitting down for a chat.

Both confirmed to be joining the defenders group this season.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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Crusader wrote:
Good video on the club website with the Irish boys sitting down for a chat.

Both confirmed to be joining the defenders group this season.



Yes I agree. I enjoyed listening to the chat. A bit more open than the local boys when interviewed.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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Not great signs for the SSP hopefuls if the boss has pulled the trigger on Silvagni to defence.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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bondiblue wrote:
AGRO wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
carntheblues wrote:
I also noticed that passage from Young - same old; indecisive


The MC back in 2022 had a lot of confidence in Young's ability to mark a ball.
Young was programmed to hold the ball till he sees a better option back in 2022. He use to rush it a bit.
He hasn't been able to shake that.

Someone has to get into his head, this preseason. I'm sure theres' drills he can do in the next few months to get him moving. If he doesn't, his name will be on the trade list again come seasons end.

Surely he watches replays with his line coach and they are talking about the problem he has, and the effect it has on the team's ball movement.



I’m not sure which Young you are referring to. He’s always been like a “deer in the headlights” when he’s holding the ball.


Mick Young...oh yeah, he's not with us anymore.

Lewis Young. He had his good times, when he was, as we all said, "doing well" filling in for McDonald after round 4. He wasn't hesitant like he became in 2023.

He got caught out playing on when he shouldn't and WAS advised to give handball off to Saady, Doc or Newman.

Maybe you are scarred by bad Lewis, and can't recall any good Lewis. He was OK early days. His confidence was totally shot around the so called wrath of Weitering.

We've sen him play with confidence. That's what I recall.


I agree Bondi. I feel for Young and only because of our supporters intent towards him.
He looks great in some of the training vids I’ve seen so far.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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I would be very happy if he returns to "good" Lewis.
He has 2025 to flick the switch.

GO BLUES!


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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SurreyBlue wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
AGRO wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
carntheblues wrote:
I also noticed that passage from Young - same old; indecisive


The MC back in 2022 had a lot of confidence in Young's ability to mark a ball.
Young was programmed to hold the ball till he sees a better option back in 2022. He use to rush it a bit.
He hasn't been able to shake that.

Someone has to get into his head, this preseason. I'm sure theres' drills he can do in the next few months to get him moving. If he doesn't, his name will be on the trade list again come seasons end.

Surely he watches replays with his line coach and they are talking about the problem he has, and the effect it has on the team's ball movement.



I’m not sure which Young you are referring to. He’s always been like a “deer in the headlights” when he’s holding the ball.


Mick Young...oh yeah, he's not with us anymore.

Lewis Young. He had his good times, when he was, as we all said, "doing well" filling in for McDonald after round 4. He wasn't hesitant like he became in 2023.

He got caught out playing on when he shouldn't and WAS advised to give handball off to Saady, Doc or Newman.

Maybe you are scarred by bad Lewis, and can't recall any good Lewis. He was OK early days. His confidence was totally shot around the so called wrath of Weitering.

We've sen him play with confidence. That's what I recall.


I agree Bondi. I feel for Young and only because of our supporters intent towards him.
He looks great in some of the training vids I’ve seen so far.


Lewis has shortfalls we all recognise. He also has much needed attributes, some choose not to recognise. He's quick, 200cm and a very good mark and spoiler.
Those attributes are my reasons why he's a strong possibility as a KPD.

I doubt Vossy is a fan, given he was up for trade, but Vossy keeps picking him in the 23 when needed, so he's not the write off some choose to believe.

We have yet to fulfill the 2 vacant spots on our list, and we have KPD's Phillips and DBG and KP McMahon vying for one of those spots.
The fact SOS is also training with the defenders tells me Vossy needs to increase options for the 1 vacant KPD spot, and have a look.

I have no doubt SOS will make it as a KPD because of his footy IQ and his strength making up for a lack of height.
I have no doubt Haines is a better 3rd defender than Gov and Kemp.

I don't think Lewis will be our KPD at the start of the season, but he's still on our list, and whilst anyone is on our list, there's hope: see Liam Jones.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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I doubt SoS makes it as KPD.


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I doubt SoS makes it as KPD.

Legitimate concerns against a leading target, but I wouldn’t rule him out as an interceptor across half back.

Great field kick
Strong enough
Good aptitude

He might prove to be a talisman for Rob Inness?

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Just read in the Herald sun the Saints played their 'A' Team in their praccy game where new recruit ruckman Harry Boyd played as the No 1 ruck

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St Kilda spearhead Max King pushed through his biggest session of pre-season so far as his potential key forward running mate Rowan Marshall showed impressive signs in attack.


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Marshall played exclusively forward during two different match play stints, one full ground and another in just the attacking two-thirds.

Summer signing Harry Boyd took ruck duties while Marshall played forward, with the SANFL star rucking for a team wearing red that appeared to be virtually a full strength ‘A’ side.

Marshall clunked two big grabs near the goalsquare and dished out a direct goal assist in the shorter match play session, rotating with King, who also took two big marks.


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With Boyd brought in as a mature ruck option, the Saints are testing out playing Marshall and King together forward more in 2025, after Marshall drifted forward to kick eight goals in his last five games of 2024.


https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/track-watch-st-kilda-youngsters-shaping-midfield-mix-for-2025/news-story/4c4b0c14ccae2db586f1cdd318aa1c2c

With our nemesis Membrey gone, it begs the question which of our defenders will take on the two 200+cm KP?

Weitering takes Marshall when he's deepest.

Who takes King? All 202cm of him?

The list debate continues.

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bondiblue wrote:
Just read in the Herald sun the Saints played their 'A' Team in their praccy game where new recruit ruckman Harry Boyd played as the No 1 ruck

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St Kilda spearhead Max King pushed through his biggest session of pre-season so far as his potential key forward running mate Rowan Marshall showed impressive signs in attack.


Quote:
Marshall played exclusively forward during two different match play stints, one full ground and another in just the attacking two-thirds.

Summer signing Harry Boyd took ruck duties while Marshall played forward, with the SANFL star rucking for a team wearing red that appeared to be virtually a full strength ‘A’ side.

Marshall clunked two big grabs near the goalsquare and dished out a direct goal assist in the shorter match play session, rotating with King, who also took two big marks.


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With Boyd brought in as a mature ruck option, the Saints are testing out playing Marshall and King together forward more in 2025, after Marshall drifted forward to kick eight goals in his last five games of 2024.


https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/track-watch-st-kilda-youngsters-shaping-midfield-mix-for-2025/news-story/4c4b0c14ccae2db586f1cdd318aa1c2c

With our nemesis Membrey gone, it begs the question which of our defenders will take on the two 200+cm KP?

Weitering takes Marshall when he's deepest.

Who takes King? All 202cm of him?

The list debate continues.

I'll back King to be injured before we need to worry about it

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jezzarules wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Just read in the Herald sun the Saints played their 'A' Team in their praccy game where new recruit ruckman Harry Boyd played as the No 1 ruck

Quote:
St Kilda spearhead Max King pushed through his biggest session of pre-season so far as his potential key forward running mate Rowan Marshall showed impressive signs in attack.


Quote:
Marshall played exclusively forward during two different match play stints, one full ground and another in just the attacking two-thirds.

Summer signing Harry Boyd took ruck duties while Marshall played forward, with the SANFL star rucking for a team wearing red that appeared to be virtually a full strength ‘A’ side.

Marshall clunked two big grabs near the goalsquare and dished out a direct goal assist in the shorter match play session, rotating with King, who also took two big marks.


Quote:
With Boyd brought in as a mature ruck option, the Saints are testing out playing Marshall and King together forward more in 2025, after Marshall drifted forward to kick eight goals in his last five games of 2024.


https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/track-watch-st-kilda-youngsters-shaping-midfield-mix-for-2025/news-story/4c4b0c14ccae2db586f1cdd318aa1c2c

With our nemesis Membrey gone, it begs the question which of our defenders will take on the two 200+cm KP?

Weitering takes Marshall when he's deepest.

Who takes King? All 202cm of him?

The list debate continues.

I'll back King to be injured before we need to worry about it


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