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Wojee
PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:58 am 
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He also said we've conceded the second most points of any team.
Is that correct?

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Sydney Blue wrote:
Problem with playing the dogs is they can be putrid one week and world beaters the next.
It just depends on which version turns up.
Most of there scores come from stoppages and they are rated No 1 in the comp.

Carlton ranks 17th for scores from stoppages and ranked 18th for defending scores from stoppages.

We got beaten badly last week GWS scored 70 from stoppages

This used to be our strength and if we don't do something to address this tomorrow it could get ugly.

We have been terrible in the past in milestone games. They better not be for Crippa.

If any player ever deserves a win in milestone game it is Crippa

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They were shit last week so we'll get world beaters this week.
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Braithy
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Wojee wrote:
He also said we've conceded the second most points of any team.
Is that correct?



it would be for sure. when we started playing with pittonet and tdk, and we'd lost 4 out of six. way back then we were the worst team in the league for defending points off stoppage.


i wrote about it back then, how our stoppage game is feast or famine. we're literally either scoring from it, or being scored against from it.


hence the whole bit about how we should do away with caring about stoppage and play the high pressure and turnover and look for the 'chaos ball' which the pies took to the flag last season. we have the cattle for that.
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Wojee wrote:
He also said we've conceded the second most points of any team.
Is that correct?
We are 15th for points
against

Discounting last night's game only the bottom 3 have more kicked against them

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missnaut wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Problem with playing the dogs is they can be putrid one week and world beaters the next.
It just depends on which version turns up.
Most of there scores come from stoppages and they are rated No 1 in the comp.

Carlton ranks 17th for scores from stoppages and ranked 18th for defending scores from stoppages.

We got beaten badly last week GWS scored 70 from stoppages

This used to be our strength and if we don't do something to address this tomorrow it could get ugly.

We have been terrible in the past in milestone games. They better not be for Crippa.

If any player ever deserves a win in milestone game it is Crippa

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They were shit last week so we'll get world beaters this week.



this will be a finals game, 100%.

looking at their run home, they absolutely have to win today to stay in touch with the 8 to have any hopes of finals. and they played really poorly last week.

and,

we should come out breathing fire after last week's piss poor pressure rating. i find it strange we've picked the tall lumbering team where we struggle in aspects of the game.

hopefully we grind it out and do it for cripps. he deserves the guys to really lift today and do whatever it takes to get over the line.


it's gonna be a cracking game imo. best game of the round.
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Just looked at the extended ladder.
5th most points against.
Geelong the other top 8 team with higher. (Geelong have conceded 59 more with one extra game played)

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Braithy wrote:
Wojee wrote:
He also said we've conceded the second most points of any team.
Is that correct?



it would be for sure. when we started playing with pittonet and tdk, and we'd lost 4 out of six. way back then we were the worst team in the league for defending points off stoppage.


i wrote about it back then, how our stoppage game is feast or famine. we're literally either scoring from it, or being scored against from it.


hence the whole bit about how we should do away with caring about stoppage and play the high pressure and turnover and look for the 'chaos ball' which the pies took to the flag last season. we have the cattle for that.
This is the 1st game we have played 2 rucks where Saad and Fogarty are in the same team.
You will have a different opinion after tonight

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Sydney Blue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Wojee wrote:
He also said we've conceded the second most points of any team.
Is that correct?



it would be for sure. when we started playing with pittonet and tdk, and we'd lost 4 out of six. way back then we were the worst team in the league for defending points off stoppage.


i wrote about it back then, how our stoppage game is feast or famine. we're literally either scoring from it, or being scored against from it.


hence the whole bit about how we should do away with caring about stoppage and play the high pressure and turnover and look for the 'chaos ball' which the pies took to the flag last season. we have the cattle for that.
This is the 1st game we have played 2 rucks where Saad and Fogarty are in the same team.
You will have a different opinion after tonight

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and if we lose ... will you finally see that we're too tall, and it's not a gf winning formula?
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Braithy wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Wojee wrote:
He also said we've conceded the second most points of any team.
Is that correct?



it would be for sure. when we started playing with pittonet and tdk, and we'd lost 4 out of six. way back then we were the worst team in the league for defending points off stoppage.


i wrote about it back then, how our stoppage game is feast or famine. we're literally either scoring from it, or being scored against from it.


hence the whole bit about how we should do away with caring about stoppage and play the high pressure and turnover and look for the 'chaos ball' which the pies took to the flag last season. we have the cattle for that.
This is the 1st game we have played 2 rucks where Saad and Fogarty are in the same team.
You will have a different opinion after tonight

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and if we lose ... will you finally see that we're too tall, and it's not a gf winning formula?
We won't lose

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Sydney Blue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Wojee wrote:
He also said we've conceded the second most points of any team.
Is that correct?



it would be for sure. when we started playing with pittonet and tdk, and we'd lost 4 out of six. way back then we were the worst team in the league for defending points off stoppage.


i wrote about it back then, how our stoppage game is feast or famine. we're literally either scoring from it, or being scored against from it.


hence the whole bit about how we should do away with caring about stoppage and play the high pressure and turnover and look for the 'chaos ball' which the pies took to the flag last season. we have the cattle for that.
This is the 1st game we have played 2 rucks where Saad and Fogarty are in the same team.
You will have a different opinion after tonight

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Wojee wrote:
Just looked at the extended ladder.
5th most points against.
Geelong the other top 8 team with higher. (Geelong have conceded 59 more with one extra game played)


Yeah, I noticed that too. 2nd and 3rd on ladder with some of the highest points against tallies. I don't think we need to obsess over it. There's seven clubs within 100 of our PA, one of them the Dogs, so a couple of strong wins and suddenly we're in the top half for PA and it's no longer a remarkable stat. More important is that our PF is only a few kicks behind Sydney and with daylight third, our percentage is solid and we've won 11 of 16 with easily the hardest fixture behind us and the easiest fixture ahead. Worry room is closed for renovations.
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i think defensively ... on our 5 game win streak we were the best offensive team in the afl, and the 2nd best defensive profile. that's points againt, pressure, tackling etc ... so we are capable of it.

without harping on about it ... imo we're only capable of that level of team defense with a smaller, more mobile team. as we're already one of the slowest teams in the league, we can't be compounding that by selecting 3 key forwards and 2 rucks.

today will reveal a fair bit. can we be defensively sound when we're so tall. etc
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Braithy
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Wojee wrote:
He also said we've conceded the second most points of any team.
Is that correct?



it would be for sure. when we started playing with pittonet and tdk, and we'd lost 4 out of six. way back then we were the worst team in the league for defending points off stoppage.


i wrote about it back then, how our stoppage game is feast or famine. we're literally either scoring from it, or being scored against from it.


hence the whole bit about how we should do away with caring about stoppage and play the high pressure and turnover and look for the 'chaos ball' which the pies took to the flag last season. we have the cattle for that.
This is the 1st game we have played 2 rucks where Saad and Fogarty are in the same team.
You will have a different opinion after tonight

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and if we lose ... will you finally see that we're too tall, and it's not a gf winning formula?
We won't lose

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losing, or limping to a victory against the team 10th on the ladder.

we need a statement win with this tall lineup imo. we put up a 65 pt win against the cats going small. we need to achieve the same today for me to even begin to believe we can have a gf winning profile with the tall/ slow team.
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Maybe there'll be a late change & we won't be so tall after all

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regardless of if we're tall this week or next or in a final. every single game we've played like that has been super tight.

we need a statement win, where we wipe a team off the park, and go on with it. otherwise, imo we're chasing shadows and kidding ourselves we're flag material when we go tall.
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missnaut wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Problem with playing the dogs is they can be putrid one week and world beaters the next.
It just depends on which version turns up.
Most of there scores come from stoppages and they are rated No 1 in the comp.

Carlton ranks 17th for scores from stoppages and ranked 18th for defending scores from stoppages.

We got beaten badly last week GWS scored 70 from stoppages

This used to be our strength and if we don't do something to address this tomorrow it could get ugly.

We have been terrible in the past in milestone games. They better not be for Crippa.

If any player ever deserves a win in milestone game it is Crippa

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They were shit last week so we'll get world beaters this week.


We need to stop Libba. He seems to play well against us. Nullify him and we are well on the way to winning.
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Braithy wrote:
regardless of if we're tall this week or next or in a final. every single game we've played like that has been super tight.

we need a statement win, where we wipe a team off the park, and go on with it. otherwise, imo we're chasing shadows and kidding ourselves we're flag material when we go tall.


Don’t agree we need a statement - we just need 4 points however they come.

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I’m not comfortable with this side at all. Hewett has to play, we’ve got too many 8-12 disposal players running around.

Also, we get an injury or one has a stinker and we’re beaten.
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bluebo baggers wrote:
Braithy wrote:
regardless of if we're tall this week or next or in a final. every single game we've played like that has been super tight.

we need a statement win, where we wipe a team off the park, and go on with it. otherwise, imo we're chasing shadows and kidding ourselves we're flag material when we go tall.


Don’t agree we need a statement - we just need 4 points however they come.



oh we do, with this tall lineup. we're yet to do it. yet somehow, we keep persisting with it.


just scraping by, limping to wins, boring the other team to death, won't serve us well come finals. we're top 2 or 3 aspirants with a gf being our goal going into the season. it's time we started playing like that's where we're at, and started standing on some throats.
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Wojee wrote:
He also said we've conceded the second most points of any team.
Is that correct?



it would be for sure. when we started playing with pittonet and tdk, and we'd lost 4 out of six. way back then we were the worst team in the league for defending points off stoppage.


i wrote about it back then, how our stoppage game is feast or famine. we're literally either scoring from it, or being scored against from it.


hence the whole bit about how we should do away with caring about stoppage and play the high pressure and turnover and look for the 'chaos ball' which the pies took to the flag last season. we have the cattle for that.
This is the 1st game we have played 2 rucks where Saad and Fogarty are in the same team.
You will have a different opinion after tonight

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Is this a Sydney thing? ;-)


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