The trade gives us greater flexibility for the draft, which is key to improving the list IMO given we are not in a position to get into the top 5 picks where all the identified talent is.

Correct. Excellent deal.
People need to get their head around it. When we're a poor side, players like Fish, Dow and O'Brien get games in our best 22. When we have list strength and we no longer have to carry a poor bottom 6, those blokes are no longer in our best team.
After 6 years in the system, they've had ample opportunity. Time to look at others. I wish them all the best but the decision was right IMHO.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Btw, @#$%&! North Melbourne. The suite of picks gifted to them is just absurd. Pathetic tin rattler club. The AFL continues to show it is the biggest joke in professional sport.

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We also would have had 2 picks if we hadn’t traded #17. It should have been Fisher for #25.

I won’t keep rabbiting on about it (it’s far from the worse trade in history), but I am a bit disappointed.

There was an opportunity to exploit the fact that we had a contracted player which a club rich with draft selections wanted. We should have made out like bandits. Especially given we’ll be lucky to get half a can of warm coke for Dow.

The equivalent of #31 for Fisher just makes par in the circumstances. IMO.

Anyway. It’s done now and I’ve had my say. Go Blues!

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It's never as good as it looks and it's never as bad as it seems.

This ^

Nothing will please me more than for them to stay shit despite being given a reach around by the AFL.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

Why are picks 21 & 25 list cloggers, but former pick 27 is someone we should keep?

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@cecil_anderson

Yes and yes . I hate this time of year when we lose players . You see kids come into the club with stars in there eyes with hopes and dreams . And as a diehard supporter i hope there there hopes and dreams are fulfilled . Sadly , more often than not it rarely runs to script . I"m sure it aint easy for these young blokes to have there hopes dashed . I feel for them big time myself . But the wheel keeps turning and thats footy . I love Fish and Paddy and i wish them nothing but the best . But every cloud has a silver lining and that silver lining i hope is the newbies coming in who get there opportunity . Whats that new age term , a refresh of the list with a fresh bunch of young colts eager to make there mark . Its exciting really .

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All my dangerous friends

Funny hey….

we can’t agree on this silly topic…yet we want
folk in the Middle East to…”work it out”…!


kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

Fair points.
Considering we paid pick #27 for him and he's not really a first 22 player for us.
I'd say we have come out alright, defiantly a lot better than the BS Austin served up last year with Setterfield.

Just look at the Suns Crows deal as a comparison if anyone is feeling ripped off.
Burgess and pick #14
For pick #23 and #26

And anyway, unfortunately in this situation we are dealing with a club that has been gifted picks and got a BS compo for Ben McKay.
So on the surface it tends to look a little light.
But Austin isn't a hard negotiator so we can't really expect much else.
Hopefully we can trade up with Geelong now.
The positive we can all agree on is at least we got this deal done and out of the way early.

This whole trade period has really p1$$3d me off. Just can’t wait for the cherry on top being the StKilda pick for Gresham.

I’ll add the AFL Kangas will by next year have the equivalent of high draft picks gifted to GWS & GC.

Ps. Please WC don’t gift them Reid. Pretty please…

Melbourne needed to add #27 and #35 just to get #14 to #11.
You should know that as according to you we are the only ones who “aren’t very good at this”, so I’d assume you’d be closely monitoring all these trades and not just basing this on a vibe.
So if that’s the path we want to go down - and we could turn #17 and a fringe player into #8, then yes, based on the Melbourne comparison that would be borderline robbery…..

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Voss has made his choices and I get it but please, Fisher a fringe player. Keep spinning it to make yourself feel good.

12 games this year when we’ve had huge injury concerns doesn’t suggest he’s best 22.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

If Austin turns #17 + Fisher into Pick 8 , then build the man a statue.

As I said, Voss choice not to play him. Fair enough, his decision, but he has proven his worth.
I don’t believe Clarkson is silly and wouldn’t be trading if he thought he wasn’t any good.
But the vibe in here tells me he is sh1t, so I’ll let the experts tell us the facts.

How is the SOS statue going?

He's at StKilda as their list manager

What does it matter what pick Fisher was? At worst he was depth, and could play across HB, HF.

We had 17, in a shallow draft we’ve made it 21. So we’re worse off there and added another speculative pick.

I don’t care what the ‘points’ add up to, you draft based on the number of the pick not the cumulative value of points.