SF: Melbourne Vs Carlton (Pre match discussion)

keogh · **Joined:** Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:36 am **Posts:** 6569

london blue wrote:

keogh wrote:

Lever and May are pivotal to their chances
Put Cottrell on Lever. Cottrell is in form and has the habit of kicking a couple like last Friday
When DeKoning is resting down forward provide a contest and put body on May who clearly will get Charlie
If you nullify one of these players it’s game over
Our mids bat deeper
Our defence will shit over their forwards
Gawn is a fantastic player
Pitto too body him
As much as possible
I would bring in Motlop and Kennedy
Kennedy can be a very effective forward
Make Dow the Sub for extra run
If needed

Keogh, we’ll miss Jack Martin toughness this week

Without getting into another slanging match just revisit everything I have written about him
Opinions are like arseholes…
Did some excellent things Friday night
Did some dumb things as a well
Besides the report let the ball walk through his legs resulting in The Swans last goal and turned it over at the death
But he is talented
Great hands and great judge of the ball in flight
Tackles hard no doubt
In what will probably b a low scoring game a guy capable of kicking a few will be missed
Not his toughness so much

bondiblue · **Posted:** Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:06 pm

Its fine to want Fisher's run from defense.
But he does that when he's the loose in defense, without an opponent to look after.
Give Dees an extra man in their defense and they will run the ball out with ease, and have the extra to double up on Charlie.

Have a look at the Demons small forwards.
Which one would Fisher defend if he had to take a man?
If he had to take a man, do you really think he will be running out the ball?

jezzarules · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:09 pm **Posts:** 6319

In: Kennedy Dow Hollands
Out: Martin McKay Cuningham

B: Newman Weitering McGovern
HB: Marchbank Kemp Saad
C: Acres Cripps Docherty
HF: Fogarty TDK Cottrell
F: Motlop Curnow Owies
Foll: Pittonet Walsh Cerra
Int: Hewett Cincotta Dow Hollands
Sub: Kennedy

bondiblue · **Posted:** Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:09 pm

keogh wrote:

london blue wrote:

keogh wrote:

Lever and May are pivotal to their chances
Put Cottrell on Lever. Cottrell is in form and has the habit of kicking a couple like last Friday
When DeKoning is resting down forward provide a contest and put body on May who clearly will get Charlie
If you nullify one of these players it’s game over
Our mids bat deeper
Our defence will shit over their forwards
Gawn is a fantastic player
Pitto too body him
As much as possible
I would bring in Motlop and Kennedy
Kennedy can be a very effective forward
Make Dow the Sub for extra run
If needed

Keogh, we’ll miss Jack Martin toughness this week

Without getting into another slanging match just revisit everything I have written about him
Opinions are like arseholes…
Did some excellent things Friday night
Did some dumb things as a well
Besides the report let the ball walk through his legs resulting in The Swans last goal and turned it over at the death
But he is talented
Great hands and great judge of the ball in flight
Tackles hard no doubt
In what will probably b a low scoring game a guy capable of kicking a few will be missed
Not his toughness so much

You're in denial.
His gut running iis another way he displays his toughness.
His tackling is for keeps.

The ball going through his legs was freakish and could happen to anybody.
Happened in a split second.

I've seen Ricky Ponting bowled, and he knew the ball was coming his way, and he's still the best batsman Ive ever seen.

bondiblue · **Posted:** Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:12 pm

OUT: McKay, Martin, Motlop

IN: SOS, Hollands, Kennedy

Kennedy sub

We are desperate for SOS to be fit to play, and I hope he shows a bit of form if he does.
May have got through a training session on Friday, but that's different to playing.

I like the idea of either Gov or Marchbank going forward if SOS isn't selected.

FarmerBlue · **Joined:** Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:10 am **Posts:** 1495

jezzarules wrote:

In: Kennedy Dow Hollands
Out: Martin McKay Cuningham

B: Newman Weitering McGovern
HB: Marchbank Kemp Saad
C: Acres Cripps Docherty
HF: Fogarty TDK Cottrell
F: Motlop Curnow Owies
Foll: Pittonet Walsh Cerra
Int: Hewett Cincotta Dow Hollands
Sub: Kennedy

Don't mind it but Jack has to come in IMO. Need another marking player
All going well we can sub a Ruck out later and bring in a runner with Jack doing the ruck

Going to be a nice night for footy so Jack plays

FarmerBlue · **Joined:** Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:10 am **Posts:** 1495

B: Newman Weitering McGovern
HB: Cincotta Kemp Saad
C: Acres Cripps Hollands
HF: Fogarty Silvagni Cottrell
F: Motlop Curnow Owies
Foll:TDK Walsh Cerra
Int: Docherty Pittonet Hewett Marchbank
Sub: Dow

I'd like Kennedy in but I think this is the way we will go

FarmerBlue · **Joined:** Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:10 am **Posts:** 1495

I remember in 1995 we won a heap of games in row coming into finals
Our first final against Brisbane we were poor. Very tight, nervous and scrapped over the line
It was like the game we needed to have
Then in the next two games we played awesome footy. Belief and focus was amazing

I am hoping for the same now

camel · **Posted:** Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:43 pm

FarmerBlue wrote:

I remember in 1995 we won a heap of games in row coming into finals
Our first final against Brisbane we were poor. Very tight, nervous and scrapped over the line
It was like the game we needed to have
Then in the next two games we played awesome footy. Belief and focus was amazing

I am hoping for the same now

Just give us the @#$%&! cup!!! :smoking:

verbs · **Posted:** Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:44 pm

Silvagni will be pumped if he's in

Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:16 pm

Van royen has accepted ban

jezzarules · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:09 pm **Posts:** 6319

FarmerBlue wrote:

jezzarules wrote:

In: Kennedy Dow Hollands
Out: Martin McKay Cuningham

B: Newman Weitering McGovern
HB: Marchbank Kemp Saad
C: Acres Cripps Docherty
HF: Fogarty TDK Cottrell
F: Motlop Curnow Owies
Foll: Pittonet Walsh Cerra
Int: Hewett Cincotta Dow Hollands
Sub: Kennedy

Don't mind it but Jack has to come in IMO. Need another marking player
All going well we can sub a Ruck out later and bring in a runner with Jack doing the ruck

Going to be a nice night for footy so Jack plays

My gut feeling is Jsos isn't ready and we'll have to make do with Kennedy or Cottrell in Martin's role and TDK filling in for H.

Braithy · **Joined:** Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:42 pm **Posts:** 7402

i have been looking and looking and i can't find anything about sos doing more at this stage than light jogging?!

if that's the case he won't be playing on friday, yeah?

bluehammer · **Posted:** Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:24 pm

club29 wrote:

CK95 wrote:

Speaking of Mcgovern. Was that just cramp at the end?

With history of hamstrings and remembering that one he did in the last minute of a game year or two back I am very weary. He seemed to grab at it and hobbled to the next contest.

No limp no ice no strapping.

bondiblue · **Posted:** Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:26 pm

Braithy wrote:

i have been looking and looking and i can't find anything about sos doing more at this stage than light jogging?!

if that's the case he won't be playing on friday, yeah?

He didn't play praccy game but then again the club didnt know Harry would be concussed, but he did a training session and the club was happy with how his knee was next day.

Seems he wasn't quite right for a competitive hit out and the club are giving him every chance to give his knee a chance to recouperate.

It's a weird injury: Sprained knee? Bruised knee?

He will only be selected if his is raring fit. He wont be match fit, that's for sure.

Crusader · **Posted:** Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:32 pm

bluehammer wrote:

club29 wrote:

CK95 wrote:

Speaking of Mcgovern. Was that just cramp at the end?

With history of hamstrings and remembering that one he did in the last minute of a game year or two back I am very weary. He seemed to grab at it and hobbled to the next contest.

No limp no ice no strapping.

Looks a bit shaky to me.

CK95 · **Posted:** Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:41 pm

Walsh said SOS did an intense session on Saturday

I'm not sure what to think. I don't want to take a player into a final if he's 50/50

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bondiblue · **Posted:** Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:42 pm

Melbourne's replacements for Brayshaw, now Roo definitely not playing?

The jury is out amongst Dees fans I know:

Big difference in opinions and all the disussion why or why not Grundy.

1. 2 Rucks Grundy to play forward and Spargo/ Jordan.
or Gawn forward target (injury cloud) and Grundy is No 1 ruck

2. KPD & Small OBrien and Tomlison. Tomlison goes back and Smith forward

3. Two Smalls Jordan and Spargo to keep Petracca forward

bondiblue · **Posted:** Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:43 pm

CK95 wrote:

Walsh said SOS did an intense session on Saturday

I'm not sure what to think. I don't want to take a player into a final if he's 50/50

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That's who used the word "intense". I knew I heard it somewhere. :thumbsup:

aboynamedsue · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:09 pm **Posts:** 6104

If Silvagni is unavailable, I would prefer Marchbank forward than McGovern. As others have said, McGovern’s kicking out of defence is a weapon for us. I know it would be an unfamiliar role for Marchbank, but he has the tank to run the Melbourne defenders around and he just needs to halve the contest. If he takes a couple of marks, that’s great, but his main role would be to make sure the opposition don’t mark it and to give our small forwards a chance.

Docherty could take Marchbank’s role in defence and Hollands could take Doc’s spot on a wing. Alternatively, if we want to leave Doc where he is, bring in Fisher to play HB. Fisher’s capacity to stand up in a final is questionable, but his ball use and ability to change the angles out of defence is appealing. I think I’d pick him just ahead of Boyd who hasn’t played much senior footy this year.

Motlop in the 22 for Martin, with Dow or Kennedy as sub.

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